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Lunaria
Posted on 01-28-12 06:23 PM Link | Quote | ID: 149712


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However, RHDN does not really run on a very attractive message board software.

Besides, Acmlm board was always about the community and hacking, not just hacking. If we take step towards a resource stacked website as well as forum board then I don't think that would hurt our community part at all.

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Posted on 01-28-12 08:12 PM Link | Quote | ID: 149713


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Well, if we were to be serious about it, I think the first step would be collecting a sufficient number of people actually willing to go through the arduous work of maintaining it (we could carry over the data that exists in www.kafuka.org), and the second one would perhaps be to write up a frontpage that is more usable/less gimmicky...

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I have to admit, I can't help but be reminded of the old attempt to create a resource site on acmlm.org during the third incarnation...

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Posted on 01-28-12 08:23 PM Link | Quote | ID: 149715


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Well, a "working frontpage" is something that has been requested time and time again in AB's history; in the end, all the purpose that one existing served was keeping the people who would claim that one being introduced would be the panacea for all problems ever quiet for a while.

The last(pre-kafuka.org) such project that happened, incidentally, was this (a sort of joint project SMWC proposed; in the end, we diverged as Boom.dk tried launching the now-defunct "Nightfall"; ours never went beyond the planning stage you see beyond the link).

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Posted on 01-29-12 12:25 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149718


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Blackhole, you may murder me for this and probably any other board leadership admininstrators....
But why not take smwc, jul.rustedlogic.net and whoever else majorly involved in hacking and assign them a direct hyperlink to their board stating what they specialize in and leave 2 o3 3 small screenshots of what has been done by their members making rom hacking more advanced than it was back in 2003 ?

Your probably looking at this and wondering, what kind of idea have you thought up moment.

Lets face it any other board specializes and somethings specific, we have had problems or rivalrys with other past or current staff and had the old forum hacking happen every so often when things have been taking too far amongst people.

I looked at Pac's last post about jul, yeah we have our differences, we dont think or socialize like the others mess, but something has to be done about it.

Out of the all the boards I know and I'm a member of, I mainly dont have a problem with them, not unless they take it too far of whatever they did, or what I might do to them depending on what goes down on the post.

I know this is going to take a lot of effort to pull off what we want to do but somebody has to be the voice of reasoning, and keep some sort of piece between acmlm affiliates.

E_NONAME
Posted on 02-17-12 06:32 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149907


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Posted by blackhole89
  • The reason we split from Jul and Jul split from us was, basically, a disagreement over the value of community values; they advocated a close-knit model organised essentially like a somewhat centralised circle of friends, with a single leader choosing who to keep and who to boot based on the informal consensus of some narrow in-group of regulars. This didn't mesh particularly well with the increasing factionalisation of the board community before Xkeeper came around, and in particular resulted in a series of purges that certainly worked in favour of everyday harmony, but increasingly turned the board into a social monoculture. Although the price is non-neglectable, that can be avoided, and we are probably more capable/willing to try to avoid it. I believe there is some value in uniting people with different ideals/values/posting styles as long as we can get past the notion that inconvenient people can just be purged if only you manage to get more like-minded ones in power; whether others do or don't, I can't tell, but if they do, I think board2's claim to greater commitment in that regard is plausible.



well, one critical flaw you make here is assuming that jul's power structure is entirely based around my friends and my friends alone, while it's actually rather wrong.

just a quick glance over the various staff threads and what goes on makes it pretty clear that we're far from all being best buddies, but we can mostly get along without being at each other's throats all the time, and there's generally not a whole lot of backstabbing going on.

I think a more important factor is that for the most part the community at Jul is not "monoculture" but more "people who can tolerate each other without being complete retards". mostly evidenced by the fact that for a long while board2 was pretty plagued by trolls because the immediate aftermath of the exodus basically meant "ok let's unban everybody that the mean nasty overlord banned". so a lot of people who specifically did not like those people ended up leaving, and then it came out that the only reason you really left them around was for the post count. smooth move.


honestly though, the best part was the part where you started making a huge deal about jul and how every post one of your users made there was "another nail in the abII coffin" (and all sorts of other fun quotes I can go grab real fast). meanwhile, jul's attitude was mostly "who cares -- the board is dying and they're too busy worring about us to do anything about it". so while we pointed and laughed and had occasional fun times at your expense, we really didn't care more other than looking over at the burning building and giggling.


honestly, just stick a fork in it. you're done. you've been on simmer for a few years now and it's time to just turn off the heat and throw it out.


also i love the fact it took me about a year to register. guess something's broken, but E_NO_SURPRISE.

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Liliana
Posted on 02-17-12 06:38 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149908


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assuming that jul's power structure is entirely based around my friends and my friends alone, which is entirely correct.

I hate to backstab you but I couldn't leave that standing as is. Knowing what goes on behind the scenes, I can only say that it really is a "my friends, and noooooooooooooobody else" kind of group. I have yet to see anyone prove me the opposite.

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You spent about half your posts claiming you were going to attempt suicide, a quarter of your posts whining about how I hated you, and then the last quarter acting normal for once.

You took offense to everything (like assigning a subdomain record) as if I was treating someone whom I rarely talked to as a "best friend".

You basically caused the most amount of disruption with your flagrant behavorial issues non-stop and to be completely honest not one person misses your crap.

(This is after giving you several chances, and even giving you the benefit of the doubt after you revealed you were saying some pretty awful things about me behind my back.)



Basically, shove it up your ass. You're the last person that should be whining over how it's "my friends, only".

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Liliana
Posted on 02-17-12 06:52 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149911


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Posted by E_NONAME
not one person misses your crap.


Posted by E_NONAME
You're the last person that should be whining over how it's "my friends, only".


sorry but those two quotes together make me laugh

I haven't seen a better contradiction than this

Kyargu
Posted on 02-17-12 06:55 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149912

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Posted by Liliana
Posted by E_NONAME
assuming that jul's power structure is entirely based around my friends and my friends alone, which is entirely correct.

I hate to backstab you but I couldn't leave that standing as is. Knowing what goes on behind the scenes, I can only say that it really is a "my friends, and noooooooooooooobody else" kind of group. I have yet to see anyone prove me the opposite.

Fun fact: I was actually in like some really long drawn out feud with Xkeeper for like a year or something ridiculous (which to be fair was really asinine of me in retrospect but still) and he let me stick around the whole time. During that period of time, we were not even remotely friends.

just sayin'

Posted by Liliana
Posted by E_NONAME
not one person misses your crap.


Posted by E_NONAME
You're the last person that should be whining over how it's "my friends, only".


sorry but those two quotes together make me laugh

I haven't seen a better contradiction than this

How is that contradictory?

E_NONAME
Posted on 02-17-12 06:56 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149913


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I feel the need to remind you who the asshole was who thought it was funny to annoy the entire #tcrf channel (including people who are not part of Jul at all) to no end because your sorry ass needed attention.

That would be you.

Fuck you.

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Liliana
Posted on 02-17-12 06:57 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149914


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not that I meant to gain attention at all, I was testing something. It's not my fault the bot reports all failed registration attempts, you know.

E_NONAME
Posted on 02-17-12 06:59 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149915


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Posted by Liliana
not that I meant to gain attention at all, I was testing something. It's not my fault the bot reports all failed registration attempts, you know.


Yes, I'm sure that's why after it worked the first time you felt the need to continue doing it upwards of about 25 times, including after having been asked to stop or identify yourself.

Yeah, that's it. Silly me.

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Liliana
Posted on 02-17-12 07:00 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149916


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it just shows how being honest isn't worth it in this community.

I should have stayed quiet and claimed someone else to be responsible for it, that would've been so much better!

See, lying is so much better

E_NONAME
Posted on 02-17-12 07:04 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149917


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Posted by Liliana
it just shows how being honest isn't worth it in this community.

I should have stayed quiet and claimed someone else to be responsible for it, that would've been so much better!

See, lying is so much better


"I shot someone, and they got angry when they found out it was me!" does not mean you should not tell anybody, it means you shouldn't shoot someone.


and therein lay most of your problems in life. now you know, and knowing is half the battle. the other half is boohoo.

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Posted on 02-17-12 07:04 AM (rev. 2 of 02-17-12 07:04 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 149918

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or you could have just like not spammed with registrations in the first place hth

(@lili)

Liliana
Posted on 02-17-12 07:06 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149920


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I have no idea why I'm even arguing here.

You said everyone hates me, that's all I wanted to know

have fun wanking with asshats like FieryIce

E_NONAME
Posted on 02-17-12 07:08 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149921


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Posted by Liliana
I have no idea why I'm even arguing here.

You said everyone hates me, that's all I wanted to know

have fun wanking with asshats like FieryIce


Well, to be honest, when you spend pretty much your entire lifetime crying about how you're going to commit suicide, while proceeding to say some pretty nasty things about everyone behind their back, what do you think is going to happen?

A funny thing happened earlier today, when I was informed you were talking shit about us even now, on the same server. Get over it.



On a side note, I remember when we used to call board2 "Jul's recycle bin" (or similar terms) in that every banned user eventually makes its way over here to clog up these forums.

It's kind of funny, in retrospect.

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Posted on 02-17-12 07:09 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149922


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Posted by E_NONAME
A funny thing happened earlier today, when I was informed you were talking shit about us even now, on the same server. Get over it.

like where?

I'm brutally honest in saying I don't know what you're talking about.

E_NONAME
Posted on 02-17-12 07:11 AM Link | Quote | ID: 149923


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Posted by Liliana
Posted by E_NONAME
A funny thing happened earlier today, when I was informed you were talking shit about us even now, on the same server. Get over it.

like where?

I'm brutally honest in saying I don't know what you're talking about.


I have people around you, and that's really all I feel like saying on the matter now.

Well, aside from the fact that I'm actually kind of tempted to just permanently ban you from badnik, but that would be kind of mean. Deserved, but mean.

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