Okay, first of all, I'd suggest leaving out the music and visual trickery if you don't already have the know-how to do those, and just focus on having one or more toggle-able cheats.

Second, I'm still laughing at the idea of using Visual Studio 2010 to do SNES intros/trainers.

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Posted by roger_max

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But if VS 2010 had a c++/c# compiler it does not work for my purpose?

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Dude no. Dude. Just. Haha.

No. Visual C++ compiles exclusively to Intel x86 and such. To PC platforms. C# runs on a platform unto its own. That means you can't use it to produce machine code that'll run on a SNES (which uses a 65c816 CPU, for the record, completely different thing than what you and I write these posts on).

In fact, what you need is a cross assembler. Assembler because it's gonna/gotta be machine code, and cross because you'll write and compile (or rather assemble) 65c816 code on something that's not a 65c816.

I say cross assembler and not cross compiler because A) good luck finding a C compiler that can target the 65c816 (if you do, please tell me) and B) if you want all the visual tricks you'll need things to go as fast as you can get them.

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For the record.

All that stuff I just posted about the SNES also goes for Sega and NES, aside from of course the different processors. GBA can be coded in C, technically, but considering the goal you'll still want to use assembly.

And I also prefer my roms clean.

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I have no idea. I can't help you without seeing the compiler for myself.

And you seem to have completely ignored my warning that the visual tricks common to trainers all but require you to write them in assembly.

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I've tried to compile the provided template project (in \snesc), which seems to rely on relative paths, so there's no "changing the environment variables" involved to the best of my knowledge. Even then, compilation failed (for me) because I don't have a Python interpreter. On the other hand, I have managed to remove that step to no glaringly ill effect and built the provided project.


Here is an archive with the de-Python'd createROM.bat and the resulting ROM I got from it -- a cheap Arkanoid clone. I also replaced the extension of the end product because I'm me.


It seems to me that you confused the file "Compiling SNES SDK from SVN on Windows for Windows.txt", which concerns the compilation of the compiler itself (or rather, the SDK, or Software Development Kit) for information on how to compile the final SNES project. Which would be pretty damn stupid considering the file name.

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Okay now I know you've got reading comprehension problems.


Some more thoughts on this thing:

1) Unless you have Python installed so you can run the full building procedure, the ASM code generated by the C compiler is going to be very, very sub-optimal. That's what the included Python script does -- it tries to replace some inefficient bits with smaller, more efficient bits.

2) Even then, "polish a turd, it's still a turd." Even with the optimization script, the code is going to be subpar compared to hand-written ASM. At any rate, those cool special effects aren't gonna go.

3) It doesn't even make a bit of difference how optimized your code is when you use this devkit because it's meant for standalone programs, not little bits you hook onto another one like an intro or trainer.

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No reading comprehension at all!

The SDK you linked to the first time has a C compiler that can target the 65c816. The ASM code it produces is then passed to the WLA assembler which is included in the archive to produce SNES roms.

What you linked to just now is just the assembler, which doesn't take C code. That's what compilers are for!

Learn to read. I'm closing this trainwreck of a thread until you do.

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