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DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 1/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
A Hack of Sonic the hedgehog 1 Sega Genesis by DarkonMK. contains 6 playable chars, Super mode, New/Remaked Levels, Menus, Megaman X Style Wall Jumping, And many more. after working on the project for nearly a year, I finally manage to finished it. Instantly the Best Hack I ever created.
Gameplay Footage Changes in Sonic 1: - 6 playable characters with their own playstyle and endings - Megaman X style Wall Jump - Every Level layouts and designs change - Super Mode after collecting 6 emeralds - New Music and few SFX - Edited Bosses and Foes - Sram - Menu and Sonic 2 Options and Level Select - Peel-Out, Spindash, and other moves - Sonic 2 style cheats - Complete GFX Change (every sprite changed in game) - and Many More Credits: Tweaker: S2 Sound Drive Nineko: Music release in Sonic Retro Sonson: Music GenesisFan64: Door into Summer Music Markeythejester: Sonic Crackers Music Quricodido: S3K Music Ports and other music Esrael: S2 Level Select Yuski & CS: Metal Sonic Sprites Selbi: Sexy Peel-out Mercury: Wall Jump Source Code MarioGuru64: Somari Sprites UPDATE: Now works on Regen, plus a couple of bug fixes. Download Hint to get Level Select code work: Spoiler: Same as Sonic 1 expect the A part is replaced with Up. ____________________ |
Trelior |
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Level: 99 Posts: 1945/2602 EXP: 9754293 Next: 245707 Since: 07-12-09 Last post: 4496 days Last view: 4483 days |
I'm not much of a Sonic guy, but from the look of this, I gotta say that it looks pretty sharp. |
DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 2/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Posted by Trelior Thanks, btw I need help making links clickable :/ ____________________ |
Trelior |
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Level: 99 Posts: 1949/2602 EXP: 9754293 Next: 245707 Since: 07-12-09 Last post: 4496 days Last view: 4483 days |
Making hyperlinks is easy.
You can either use HTML like this Which is done like this:
The bracketed parts are what you change. Or, you can use BBCode like this Which is done like this:
Parenthesis are the parts you change, since BBCode uses brackets. Both of my links go to Google. Maybe we should put this in the FAQ, since we get this a lot... :/ |
DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 3/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Thanks Alot! it works :] ____________________ |
roxahris |
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Level: 52 Posts: 558/568 EXP: 1072312 Next: 11528 Since: 02-19-07 From: Here? Last post: 3922 days Last view: 3885 days |
Here, I shall summarise my overall thoughts upon playing this hack.
The music isn't good. When it isn't ported, it's bad. Or terrible. The ported music also varies in quality. The level layouts aren't good. They reek of "I got bored and threw together some stuff in SonED". Some places become impossible to complete unless you have a good idea of what's going to happen. Furthermore, the "wall jump" is not "Megaman X style", and calling it such is a disgrace to X's name. The "spindash" is more the "spin in a circle and receive a light shove when done", although the obligatory peel-out seems somewhat misplaced. The choice of characters is, in a way, impressive; but is excessive and stupid. Furthermore, including yourself as a playable character is generally frowned upon, not to mention pointless "dark" versions and random, unfitting characters. The art is good in places, and either terrible or unchanged in the rest. Finally, the writing of this summary caused the spilling of a cup of coffee onto a book I was reading and has thus led me to believe the game is possessed by some mysterious force and therefore should not be played until it is better. ____________________ Love your lawn. |
DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 4/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Posted by roxahris Um, your wrong in a few things, First, the layouts are beatable, nothing impossible unless you suck at it. I tested it for months and everything is reachable. Second, Music is average, I know the ports suck but it will get better soon. Third, I know a dark version is a gay add-on, but it will be only be in V1.0. it was just Metal Sonic in Super disabled. Fourth, I'm good with rest. I will get better soon, is just that I'm out of ideas or rushing for the release date. ____________________ |
Metal Knuckles |
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Red Tektite Level: 22 Posts: 76/76 EXP: 52481 Next: 5869 Since: 02-19-07 From: Champlain College, VT Last post: 4745 days Last view: 5420 days |
I'm not totally sure you understood everything roxahris was trying to get at. The problem with the level design isn't necessarily whether it's possible to beat or not. It's the quality of thought put into the design. There are some points when repeated small walls appear for no reason other then breaking up the movement, and there's big pink areas of who knows what that do nothing but block your vision of the character. In the video you posted, the end of the level involves a blind leap of faith over a wall of spikes to reach the goal. Blind leaps with dangers of death are never a good design, as it negates all need for strategy and forethought due to, as roxahris said, laziness.
A lot of the palettes needed some work, and the character selection, while original, lacks any coherency. A lot of the other stuff was already touched upon, but I would like to say that the wall grabbing technique doesn't suck. I'm glad to see you're willing to improve based upon critiques, but I'm worried about you basing game features off of what appears to be completely random ideas. I suggest you run this by Sonic Retro for an in depth critique. There's something along the lines of a 90% chance that some people will be complete and utter douches when giving you advice, but the help they provide will be solid. ____________________ |
DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 5/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Thanks, but about Retro, I'm still Pending Membership.
but I notice your right about the layouts, few look like the same paths, because I can't get more then 52 chunks. but I've been making this hack for nearly a year and learning ASM is hell. but i'll focus on the layouts next time. ____________________ |
pacnsacdave |
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Keese Banned until further notice. Flooding. Level: 26 Posts: 8/129 EXP: 101425 Next: 850 Since: 03-12-11 From: Albany, Louisiana Last post: 3074 days Last view: 2523 days |
Kudos to you on a wonderful hack! This is what i call a damn good hack.
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DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 6/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Thanks Guys, it mean alot to me.
btw I created a little update (ver 1.1) that works on Regen, (and every other emulater around). also did some edits on the Layouts and bug fixes so checkout my First Post to download it. ____________________ |
bradzx |
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Octoballoon Level: 30 Posts: 107/169 EXP: 159732 Next: 6137 Since: 11-04-09 From: Ponyville Last post: 3639 days Last view: 3626 days |
Your hack is freaking awesome pal! ____________________ My DeviantArt---> |
roxahris |
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Level: 52 Posts: 563/568 EXP: 1072312 Next: 11528 Since: 02-19-07 From: Here? Last post: 3922 days Last view: 3885 days |
Posted by bradzxGeez, if you think this is awesome, I'd hate to see what you think of something I think is awesome. Posted by DarkonMKNo? ...or perhaps you just missed something. Which, judging by the stages overall layouts, is fairly probable. It's less a problem of difficulty, and more a problem of pants-on-head retarded level design. That's irrelevant - they're horrible now. You can't just say "oh that's fine they'll improve" without taking into account that they do, indeed, suck, and you probably shouldn't have let them suck in the first place. Why leave in broken leftover in a "1.0" release? I don't understand. You're saying you're good at resting, then saying you'll get better soon, and then muddling up words and adding that you're out ideas and rushing towards a release date. Huh? ____________________ Love your lawn. |
NightKev |
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Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 4596/4792 EXP: 26227148 Next: 197472 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3733 days Last view: 3645 days |
Well... a quick comment before I get to saying anything about gameplay; in the gameplay demo video, why did you waste almost a minute before getting to the actual gameplay..? I say 'almost a minute' because you had about 5-10 seconds of useful video, and 50+ seconds of annoying padding where you just bounced the selector around on the menu screens doing nothing interesting and/or relevant to showing off the hack at all.
As MK said, those weird pink areas look like nothing but potential massive annoyances (ie: "FUCK WHERE AM I WHAT HIT ME WHAT'S GOING ON" etc), you may want to do without them... Why are there pink Metal Sonic enemies..? The first two screenshots in your opening post are rather pointless, too. ____________________ |
DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 7/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Posted by roxahrisPosted by bradzxGeez, if you think this is awesome, I'd hate to see what you think of something I think is awesome. 1. Problem Sir? 2. Hell to the Yes. 3. Retarded Level Design? Give me a break and show me that you can do better. but a very few levels do have a shitty design. 4. Your Opinion. I bet you haven't listened to all the music yet before judging. unless you mean the Chaotix and few S3K music Ports, then allright then. btw I was using the Sonic 2 Sound Driver all along. 5. I updated to version 1.1 now so no need to worry about it. 6. I Meant to say: I'm good with the rest. Not resting lol. Posted by NightKev I did it to show one of the major features of my hack (The Main Menu and Sonic 2 menu ports), and the Fake Metal Sonic Clones are Pink because it shares the player's palette. Not much room to add one. ____________________ |
roxahris |
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Level: 52 Posts: 565/568 EXP: 1072312 Next: 11528 Since: 02-19-07 From: Here? Last post: 3922 days Last view: 3885 days |
Posted by DarkonMKThat some kinda super hero? So... you're agreeing that I'm right about you being wrong about me being wrong? I don't have to be a chef to tell you your food tastes like shit. In any case, I have done better. No, no, no, what I said was a fact, not an opinion. Trust me, I'm more than qualified to tell you your music sucks. When I said "they're horrible", I meant it. About ALL of them. Version numbers mean nothing. Show your work. You're good with the rest? That's a bald-faced lie, and you know it. That's hardly an excuse. What about the other palette lines? ____________________ Love your lawn. |
DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 8/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Posted by roxahrisPosted by DarkonMKThat some kinda super hero? 1. Super Hero? I learn something new today. 2. Nope 3. Show me then, via Video. 4. Fact? so your saying everything you say is True? calling something Good or Shitty is still a fucking Opinion, dumbass. 5. rofl 6. so I have to show that it works on Regen? 7. Lie? so your saying I don't have to agree with half you said? okay. 8. other uses the Level pallete ____________________ |
roxahris |
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Level: 52 Posts: 566/568 EXP: 1072312 Next: 11528 Since: 02-19-07 From: Here? Last post: 3922 days Last view: 3885 days |
Here, let me help you.
Stop thinking you're right. Two-bit refutals are all well and good, but they don't change the fact that several parts of your work just plain suck. Hell, they blow. They're ass, they're awful, and they're asinine. Sure, you may have something you're happy with now. But that's no excuse to not go and make it better. Just because something can be regarded as an opinion doesn't make it wrong. Likewise, just because you don't understand something doesn't make it incorrect. It's like the ever-repeated story of the businessman and the engineer, one saying "Do this!" and the other saying "It can't be done!", and then a cycle of "You're lying! You can do it!" and "No, I can't! It's impossible!". Don't do that. ____________________ Love your lawn. |
DarkonMK |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 10/26 EXP: 9133 Next: 1134 Since: 04-27-11 Last post: 4536 days Last view: 4501 days |
Hi Guys, again. idk if this count as a bump but heres a update of the 2nd level, the project is not over yet.
How is it? is kinda unfinished but it took a fuckton of hours to make it to the 90%. the only thing lacking is the props and details. ____________________ |
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