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| Main - Display Case - How do you feel about China's web block? | New thread | Thread closed |
| How do you feel about China's web block? | |
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| ParaLax |
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 Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 21/147 EXP: 118450 Next: 12888 Since: 02-19-11 Last post: 3954 days Last view: 3942 days |
Personally, I dislike it. The communist society is preventing people from knowledge, therefore spreading ignorance. They are using ignorance to keep the people under control, something that I feel is very wrong indeed. It's as bad as book burning.
Keeping the people away from knowledge is something I feel fairly strongly against. (Note: If any of you live in something like this, I am not criticizing your way of life, just expressing my views  )
What is your opinion on the matter? ____________________ |
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 CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 136 Posts: 4423/5344 EXP: 29948702 Next: 148213 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4100 days Last view: 2236 days |
I basically agree with your opening statements. I also believe, personally, that it is physically impossible to block the flow of information. It has been so before the Internet even existed, and has only become harder.
The Internet will route around any damage. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 130 Posts: 4540/4792 EXP: 25382611 Next: 347966 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3337 days Last view: 3249 days |
"The communist society" NO
Not only is China now a capitalist society (iirc), even if it wasn't that has nothing to do with the government blocking the internet. ____________________ |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 120 Posts: 3839/3965 EXP: 19142548 Next: 344623 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 2904 days Last view: 1655 days |
I find China to be more capitalistic than some western countries (even US), which is funny in a way. In the bad way too.
Censorship is rather widespread, the middle-east chaos and possible following revolutions are censored from the Chinese residents, probably to prevent any citizens from getting "inspired". ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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 The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 123 Posts: 3563/4196 EXP: 20839959 Next: 391307 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 74 days Last view: 58 days |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 136 Posts: 4430/5344 EXP: 29948702 Next: 148213 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4100 days Last view: 2236 days |
Same way, really. Those who really want their child porn will get their child porn. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 123 Posts: 3566/4196 EXP: 20839959 Next: 391307 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 74 days Last view: 58 days |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 136 Posts: 4432/5344 EXP: 29948702 Next: 148213 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4100 days Last view: 2236 days |
"Love will find a way", even if it's an illegal and very squicky kind of love. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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 Boomboom Level: 89 Posts: 1531/1975 EXP: 6729568 Next: 186333 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 3182 days Last view: 2806 days |
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Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 36/147 EXP: 118450 Next: 12888 Since: 02-19-11 Last post: 3954 days Last view: 3942 days |
If there wasn't a sufficient way of effectively blocking it, then it would just be like the prohibition in 20s in America, even those who wouldn't drink much would start drinking regularly in speakeasies, the same could happen with this, because the ones that look at it once in a while will start looking at it more regularly and start a black market of this  It's quite feasible that this would happen really.
Lets assume that there was such a way, would would be a miracle really, then I would be for it. But to tell the truth, there is no such way, which means that there will always be access to child porn, whether or not he EU tries to stop it. ____________________ |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 123 Posts: 3567/4196 EXP: 20839959 Next: 391307 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 74 days Last view: 58 days |
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Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 38/147 EXP: 118450 Next: 12888 Since: 02-19-11 Last post: 3954 days Last view: 3942 days |
No I would not. You are comparing two unrelated things, in a wrong way.
Child Porn is inherently considered wrong, whereas knowledge is considered a necessity for the wellbeing of a person. Child Porn is used to derive sexual pleasure, whereas knowledge in general in order to better oneself is fine. In China, they are being blocked from critical information that would tell them that they are in one of the worst governments. Blocking child porn isn't meant to keep people ignorant, it is not blocking information, but explicit pictures. It would be like you saying that if there was a way to perfectly make a goal in soccer is good, so then I respond with that if there was a perfect way for a person to commit a murder you would agree. Keeping people ignorant is different from letting adults watch explicit images for their sexual pleasure ____________________ |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 123 Posts: 3568/4196 EXP: 20839959 Next: 391307 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 74 days Last view: 58 days |
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You need to think your shit through. Level: 26 Posts: 93/112 EXP: 90122 Next: 12153 Since: 05-27-07 From: Louisiane Last post: 4367 days Last view: 4118 days |
I am in favor of China's internet block. The Chinese people are far too stupid as a whole to make responsible use of information. Their government knows better than to let 1.2 billion ignorant people just do and know whatever they want. Harmony is a hundred times more important to China's well-being than any sort of freedom. If they let them do whatever they want and know whatever they want, the country will fall into chaos and there would be widespread bloodshed (that I don't care about) that would eventually endanger US interests (that I do care about).
God Bless America ____________________  |
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Paratroopa Level: 28 Posts: 58/147 EXP: 118450 Next: 12888 Since: 02-19-11 Last post: 3954 days Last view: 3942 days |
blackhole89-
Yes, I agree that I shouldn't care about what the EU does. But I disagree about China, if the people knew the situation that they were in and not brainwashed, then they would change for the better. It is not inherently wrong for them to change. It might be rooted in their culture, but progression should be what is strived for. Getting more knowledge drives progression, but viewing child porn does not drive progression. Posted by Alkis They are ignorant, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE BLOCKAGE OF INFORMATION. Actually I agree with you on one thing, I'd just like to change it a bit... "The American people are far too stupid as a whole to make responsible use of information". Yes America is really stupid. The people here are such idiots that one student drops out every nine seconds for just highschool, yeah you heard me right... every nine seconds, the idiots. My source is aypf.org the American Youth Policy Forum, a reliable source. There are all these idiots that don't know anything, and think they know enough to vote, who cares about the Chinese? We should have their government, stopping people from dropping out unless they want to be shot (That's a policy I'd be for), and any grade below a 95, whether it be a homework, should earn a death penalty. Yes, many people would die, but then our country wouldn't be full of uneducated people that think only about beer, sex, and drugs. Yes, I admit that there is a few smart people (most of them immigrants) though, according to an IQ poll I took at my very own highschool a few years ago Truthfully, the worst americans are the racist ones that don't know anything, besides that there is this thing called a country and it is somehow better than all others. The Chinese people value education, because it is a privilege, not a way to waste life like here.
* Stop ignoring my post now * I won't argue with you because I think that it was just trolling with lack of information that you gave in your post. Alkis, you are a troll, and I could barely hold it in to not go any further after that comment you made. I can get really angry when users act so naive like that. I'm going to ignore you from now on, but you really deserve a ban after effing up the debate forum with posts like that ____________________ |
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The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 123 Posts: 3575/4196 EXP: 20839959 Next: 391307 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 74 days Last view: 58 days |
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You need to think your shit through. Level: 26 Posts: 94/112 EXP: 90122 Next: 12153 Since: 05-27-07 From: Louisiane Last post: 4367 days Last view: 4118 days |
I find it unfair that I get called a troll simply because I hold conservative views. I bet that if I came here with outrageous communist nonsense, nobody would even care. ____________________ |
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 Sledge Brother Compromised account. Level: 86 Posts: 1390/1815 EXP: 5928631 Next: 213476 Since: 02-19-07 From: Oregon Last post: 1415 days Last view: 1415 days |
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You need to think your shit through. Level: 26 Posts: 96/112 EXP: 90122 Next: 12153 Since: 05-27-07 From: Louisiane Last post: 4367 days Last view: 4118 days |
I am not trolling. Why are people so particularly hostile to me? ____________________ |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 136 Posts: 4443/5344 EXP: 29948702 Next: 148213 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4100 days Last view: 2236 days |
Posted by AlkisYou're posting outrageous things to begin with. That's your first mistake. You're claiming outrageous commie things would be somehow okay, possibly because of blackhole89. That's your second mistake, considering bh's not the only one here to judge you. We percieve your outrageous things as trolling because we can only hope you're not actually being serious about it. It's that outrageous. Now read that again in a hammy voice, emphasis on the most often-used word. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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