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 Red Goomba Level: 16 Posts: 4/38 EXP: 16657 Next: 3599 Since: 06-16-10 Last post: 4813 days Last view: 4813 days |
this confuses me how do you make hacking tools?  ____________________ I have left... |
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Level: 43 Posts: 228/384 EXP: 546049 Next: 18997 Since: 11-19-09 From: Denmark Last post: 4529 days Last view: 3213 days |
Well... As far as I know (Tat is, not a lot)...
You need to know how the game works (Where stuff is in the ROM, etc) And you need to know how to program. |
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 Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 131/313 EXP: 406828 Next: 34481 Since: 07-10-09 From: Marquette, Michigan Last post: 3306 days Last view: 1928 days |
I think how you reference things in C++ (But, being not a programmer I'm not definite) you link it to said address in the rom by putting $ then the address location like:
$63 Though I'm not definite. ____________________ セシル |
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Red Goomba Level: 16 Posts: 5/38 EXP: 16657 Next: 3599 Since: 06-16-10 Last post: 4813 days Last view: 4813 days |
thanks guys
(exept i dont know ANYTHING about how to program) ____________________ I have left... |
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 CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3822/5344 EXP: 30929920 Next: 733061 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4492 days Last view: 2627 days |
Thanks for the admission there, HTH. I really think you should learn how to program in general before entertaining the notion of programming a hacking tool.
Oh, and Kioku is seriously wrong, but justifiably so. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks  — byuu |
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Red Goomba Level: 16 Posts: 6/38 EXP: 16657 Next: 3599 Since: 06-16-10 Last post: 4813 days Last view: 4813 days |
ok ____________________ I have left... |
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 Cheep-cheep Level: 33 Posts: 142/194 EXP: 212734 Next: 16445 Since: 05-02-07 From: Shelton, WA Last post: 2466 days Last view: 2309 days |
Posted by Kawa No, He is right to a point, There is actually certain types of data input used in ASM or other languages, For Hex: $00 (#$00 in Rom Value) is in Motorola/MOS Technologies HEX syntax, usually used in 6502 and 68000-based machines. While in Intel, GBA/DS, ect. The equivlent to $00 from Motorola is known as 0x00 in Intel in ROM ____________________ Mah boi, romhacking is what all true warriors strive for! I wonder what's for dinner? |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 133/313 EXP: 406828 Next: 34481 Since: 07-10-09 From: Marquette, Michigan Last post: 3306 days Last view: 1928 days |
Ah! Sou that's where the 0x00 comes in. I've seen that in other documents, and always ignored the 0x part. Thanks for the info. ____________________ セシル |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3826/5344 EXP: 30929920 Next: 733061 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4492 days Last view: 2627 days |
No, you were in fact wrong. You started with "I think how you reference things in C++", but then proceeded with an ASM-ism.
$, 0x and &H are just different languages' ways to identify a given number as being hexadecimal. $F00D is not and will never be a valid numerical value in C(++). And Hamtaro only compounds the problem: what you're talking about is the syntax for a given assembly language. To the actual processors, be it Intel, ARM or Motorola, it doesn't matter what kind of hex identifier you used, only the assembler tool you used cares about that. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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Porcupo Level: 40 Posts: 134/313 EXP: 406828 Next: 34481 Since: 07-10-09 From: Marquette, Michigan Last post: 3306 days Last view: 1928 days |
Sou how is it defined in C++ then? ____________________ セシル |
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 Flurry Level: 37 Posts: 250/258 EXP: 326820 Next: 11433 Since: 04-10-07 From: Buffalo, NY Last post: 5022 days Last view: 4562 days |
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CHIKKN NI A BAAZZKIT!!! 80's Cheerilee is best pony Level: 138 Posts: 3830/5344 EXP: 30929920 Next: 733061 Since: 02-20-07 From: The Netherlands Last post: 4492 days Last view: 2627 days |
And it surprises me that Paulguy didn't mention what &H is.
Basically, that's the Basic form of C's 0x. ____________________ Wife make lunch - Shampoo Opera - give it a spin Spare some of your free time? <GreyMaria> I walked around the Lake so many goddamn times that my sex drive was brutally murdered Kawa rocks — byuu |
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Flurry Level: 37 Posts: 251/258 EXP: 326820 Next: 11433 Since: 04-10-07 From: Buffalo, NY Last post: 5022 days Last view: 4562 days |
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Cheep-cheep Level: 32 Posts: 178/193 EXP: 204344 Next: 2098 Since: 05-26-08 From: Porto Alegre, Brazil Last post: 4437 days Last view: 4765 days |
To answer the original question, first you need to know specifically what you want to hack and EXACTLY how to do it. Say you want to make a program that will change the initial number of lives in a game (a good project for begginers):
- Find how to do it and test doing a simple change using a hex editor. - Find a suitable language (C# seems like a good begginer language since you can get results very fast, which is great for simpler rom hacking). - Learn basic file I/O: how to open a file in binary mode, how to get to a specific offset (seek functions), how to properly write data into the data, etc. Once you find that, learn to work with buffers for more safety). - Learn how to do a user interface (first simple console-like input then later on a GUI) Note that the very first step (finding how to do it) will require some Rom Hacking kwowledge or existing documents, if you can't work that out you aren't ready to consider making a tool. |
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Red Goomba Level: 16 Posts: 7/38 EXP: 16657 Next: 3599 Since: 06-16-10 Last post: 4813 days Last view: 4813 days |
Posted by messiaen its SM64 mah fave game (took me forevverr to get the last star though  )____________________ I have left... |
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 Yellow Stalfos Level: 71 Posts: 976/1145 EXP: 3034297 Next: 132817 Since: 07-06-07 From: Québec Last post: 3621 days Last view: 2873 days |
You shouldn't have to specify C/C++. Only saying "C" is enough, while it IS technically true that C++ is not a strict superset of C (which is a very stupid characteristic, anyway)... |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 4275/4792 EXP: 26217314 Next: 207306 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3728 days Last view: 3640 days |
Considering there's already a SM64 editor (called "Toad's Tool"), why are you trying to make one yourself? ____________________ |
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Yellow Stalfos Level: 71 Posts: 977/1145 EXP: 3034297 Next: 132817 Since: 07-06-07 From: Québec Last post: 3621 days Last view: 2873 days |
I'd suggest starting with NES, because it is relatively simple, the platform is well understood and there's plenty of information around for many games... |
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Red Goomba Level: 16 Posts: 10/38 EXP: 16657 Next: 3599 Since: 06-16-10 Last post: 4813 days Last view: 4813 days |
Posted by NightKev I know that! but i want to be able to hack the game more! ____________________ I have left... |
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 Leever Level: 32 Posts: 77/193 EXP: 205905 Next: 537 Since: 02-26-08 Last post: 3351 days Last view: 964 days |
but you dont want to start with n64. its like playing guitar, you dont start with a michael angelo song, you start with knocking on heavens door or something easier like that |
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