Posted by KP9000

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Another pointer problem again. This time, I'm editing my world 1 dungeon. The pointers point to the right area in the level, but when I go to a different area, it puts me in the top left part of a level. 0,0 I presume. I don't know what the hell is going on.

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Posted by zbyte

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A "bump"...

Yeah, I've got that problem too, I used to think I set the vertical exit proprely and I didn't. I still have something that Quick Curly sent me, so it'll probably go well!

He Sent this:

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Select the 3-byte pointer object and press the ENTER/Return key. A screen will pop up. The range pertains to the horizontal location of the pipe/door that you're referring to in hex. You can view the data of the pipe/door by selecting it and looking at the bottom-right part of the screen. You'll see 3 bytes; the second byte is the horizontal location of the pipe/door in hex. So if this byte is 4A, for example, the range that you set for the pointer is 40-4F. Remember what I said before; try to have it so that you only have one pointer pointing to each range, or else you'll run into problems.

The exiting locations are for the exiting pipe/door. Make sure the vertical position matches one of the valid values. Here's how to keep track of the vertical hex values so you know where to put your pipe/door: Mentally assign the top row a hex value of 00. The bottom row (Y: 026 in decimal) is 1A in hex in relation to the pointers. Going up (counting backwards), you go 19 and then 18. So the third last row is a valid exiting position. The row above it, the fourth last row, is also valid as it is 17.

So the rows from top to bottom for your reference (valid exits are bolded): 00, 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 0A, 0B, 0C, 0D, 0E, 0F, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, and 1A.

Unless you're dealing with Pipe levels, don't bother with the values that include "(Vert)".

There are cases where you'll have a pipe exit in a valid position, but when you go to test it you find that you'll see a graphical X thing. Just size the pipe so that it covers the space that the X appears and test it again to make sure that it works right. Also keep in mind that the red "XX" that you see in SMB3 Workshop when you're placing the pipe is what you have to put match up with a valid exit position; not necessarily the TOP of the 3-byte pipe object (keep that in mind when dealing with downward pipes). With doors, it's the top half of the door that you want to match up with a valid exit position.○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○○

Just posting the stuff from the other threads.
I tried the pointer stuff but I still fall up from the top. I'll post a screenshot from the game since I don't know how to take one from SMB3 W.s.

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Posted by KP9000

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Well, out of methods of troubleshooting, I did end up checking the "Entering pipe ends level" box to see what it did... The only thing that happens is any doors drop you in the same XY Position but in another level. (Same way the doors work in 4-6, which gives me a damn good idea for another level btw) Thing is, if I put a pipe there instead of a door, it makes no difference in my problem at all. So, I've deduced that the problem lies with the pointers or the level itself.

I would be more than happy to let you take a look at it. I don't remember how we did it last time though...

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Posted by NutheadBros

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Yeah is it possible in a water level to put a goal card at the end {The Whole Level is Water by the way. No Surface.}

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Posted by KP9000

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You can put a goal card at the end, but you can't have the ending backdrop because it can't exist with Water at the same time. So, if you have black water, it works fine. Otherwise it looks really corny.

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Posted by Trelior

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Pointers that lead to other levels: If I move a pipe or a door, do I have to move the pointer with it or can I leave it where it is? If I have to move it, how do I move it?

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Posted by NutheadBros

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Actually I tried having 1-2 as a water level {done all the right things} then it freezes and then the level gets messed up in the editor....Well I must make something different

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Posted by KP9000

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#1: You usually just move them around... but I once took a hammer bros. level pointer in World 1 and pointed it to the level data for one of the unused pipe levels. Viola, pipes in world 1!

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Posted by KP9000

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#3: If you want to add more than 1 boom boom in different places, you'll need to know ASM. Reason being, if you kill one, it's coded to stop scrolling, time countdown, and some other stuff and forces you to collect the ? object to complete the level. If you want to add two boom booms in the same room, that requires ASM too, but I believe you go about it a slightly different way. There was a hack that made it so if you kill one boom boom it gives you a powerup and then you kill the last one to get the ? object.

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Posted by Trelior

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That's weird, because when I moved my pipes around, it seemed like the pipe level data is tied to the pointers at the same coordinate on the original map. I ran into this problem in my World 7 map because my pipes had the right coordinates and all of that, but I would be output in the wrong area, still on a pipe, but the wrong one. That essentially made a complex pipe maze that I didn't deliberately make.

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Posted by Trelior

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I was just asking about adding Boom Boom to the end of the fortresses, like in Ultimate SMB3, where you have to fight 2+ Boom Booms and have to avoid picking up the crystal until they're all dead or else they still run around, ripping you to pieces while the "Stage Clear" theme played.

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Posted by NutheadBros

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Actually I think I used less objects if I remember correctly. I did that with 1-1 and it worked fine.

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