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Kawa
Posted on 01-18-09 12:32 AM Link | Quote | ID: 98935


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Posted by Stifu
A good idea is to start with something as simple as possible. Like, at the moment, would you be able to do something as trivial as changing Mario's name...?
If there would ever be a general rohmacking aptitude test or something, that'd be right on the top

On a somewhat related note, consider the place my dad works at as an IT teacher. He tried to teach the class binary and hexadecimal... ended up asking me for good reasons why they should know.

In the end, 10b was apparently followed by 20b...

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Mariofan0
Posted on 01-18-09 02:26 AM Link | Quote | ID: 98947


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*Kills Stifu and shoves the body into a woodchipper.*

Well This Is quite the delema then while I want to make this game it... is... impossible to do here... Anyone know a decent Scripter for Gamemaker7... oh yea I already know one named Ting-thing Creator of Mario Builder. Buh Bye.

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Stifu
Posted on 01-18-09 08:07 AM Link | Quote | ID: 98969


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Posted by Mariofan0
Well This Is quite the delema then while I want to make this game it... is... impossible to do here...

A dilemma (Greek δί-λημμα "double proposition") is a problem offering at least two solutions or possibilities, of which none are practically acceptable;

So you know, there is no dilemma, you don't have a choice in this matter. The only dilemma is whether you actually want to try and learn by yourself, or just stay there waiting for others to do everything for you.
Oh, and if you think it's just "impossible to do here", be my guest and try on another forum. Maybe there are hoards of ASM hackers waiting for your orders out there, you never know.

RomManic
Posted on 01-18-09 07:53 PM Link | Quote | ID: 98985


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So THIS is why Rom Hacking is dying...Well, Mariofan, I'll do the graphics editing if someone has some ASM skills to accompany. No resume, unfortunately I've never done anything like this before but I'm willing to try. It's just a matter of finding the niche you're looking for

Dan
Posted on 01-18-09 09:07 PM Link | Quote | ID: 98990


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Posted by RomManic
So THIS is why Rom Hacking is dying...


That's overly-dramatic, and well... completely incorrect.

Dr. Hell
Posted on 01-18-09 09:54 PM Link | Quote | ID: 98995


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Uh yeah, I'd say Rom hacking is doing like really well. I mean pretty much, quantity has been replaced with quality. That's generally a good thing.

RomManic
Posted on 01-18-09 10:16 PM Link | Quote | ID: 98996


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Maybe I'm just out of touch with it now...I think quantity could equal quality with enough tempering though

Dr. Hell
Posted on 01-18-09 10:32 PM Link | Quote | ID: 98997


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Quantity = 100's of hacks that feature Naked Hitler Mario in a Wheelchair
Quality = a couple of REALLY awesome hacks

Mariofan0
Posted on 01-18-09 11:06 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99000


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Actually Due to true satements and the fact that it wont get done anyway (im sure) ive moved to Gamemaker to do this project. however we are in desperate need of a graphic artist anyway so question do you still want to help knowing ive changed my methods? and do you know how to sprite using A basic paint aplication. (Ive got a decent scripter right now.)

The paint aplication doesnt nessasaraly have to be microsoft paint It could be Paint shop pro or something simmalar

If you still wish to help you can PM me here Or Ill tell you my AIM Account name and you can contact me there. you can also contact me at my website which will be listed in my profile for easy acsess

Do not Send me e-mail I would never read it so...

Anyways If you do help you can start by making A Casino Style level theme and possibly a Few of the Characters including yoshi which would be upright rather than leaning forward it also must meet spicific standards simmalar graphic style to SMB3. but its pritty understandable if you no longer wish to help. anyways thanks for asking in the first place RomManic.

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RomManic
Posted on 01-18-09 11:12 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99002


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I'm mostly familiar with web graphics (I designed the logo for my website, here) but spriting is relative to what you want. Give me tile sizes, colors, and a general gist of what you want and you've got it

Mariofan0
Posted on 01-18-09 11:50 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99005


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I Sent you a PM With a list of instructions however Its going to be a slightly difficult job...

Also you do logos I could use a Few logo's for the game.
not to mention a title screen and menu system anyways start with the stuff ive PM'ed you and we will go from there.

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RetroRain
Posted on 01-19-09 06:52 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99018


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Giving up and going to Game Maker just because you don't know how to do ASM hacking is the wrong attitude to have. I know, I've been there. I wanted to do the same exact thing with Megaman.

First, let me ask you, do you have basic programming knowledge?

Do you know how loops work? How IF statements work? How to print stuff to the screen?

Basically, do you have any programming experience in any language? Even if you know QBasic (by knowing that, you should have basic programming knowledge), that is all you need to do ASM hacking.

People aren't going to teach you, for lots of reasons:

1. They don't have the time.
2. They are working on their own projects.
3. There are documents that will tell you all the things you need to know.

There was a time I didn't know jack about ASM hacking. In a way I feel bad for you, because I was in the same boat. But giving up is never the answer, and as long as you have a willingness to learn, and you have time and patience, you can do it.

But, keep in mind, that ASM hacking is not really fun. I've been doing it for a while, and although I love the results I get, all of that programming, and working with the game's engine, can be frustrating, and quite simply a pain in the ass.

My first ASM hack was actually in SMB3. I made it so that when you jump on the P-Switch, you automatically aquire the Kuribo's Shoe. Now, I figured out how to make it so that you can get a Kuribo's Shoe as a powerup from a block (which is present in my hack).

There are lots of documents out there, that show you how the NES works, and there are documents on ASM hacking.

I'm not going to teach you, because I just don't have the time, but I can help you get started in the right direction.

The easiest ASM hack, to do, for any game, is the Infinite Lives ASM hack. In fact, I wrote a document on how to do this one time. It was for SMB. I don't know if that document is still on the web or not, but I might make something up to help newbies get started.

I think the best Infinte Lives ASM document should have pictures and words, so you get the general idea. I might make one. Might prove to be useful to new guys wanting to get into ASM hacking.

But I wouldn't give up on ROM hacking just yet. There is still a lot to learn.

In the meantime, here are a few links for you:

http://desnet.kodewerx.net/doc/fceud_tutor1.txt
http://patater.com/gbaguy/nesasm.htm
http://acmlm.kafuka.org/board/thread.php?id=3788
http://www.google.com
http://http://nesdev.parodius.com

Allow yourself to learn. Good luck.

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Mariofan0
Posted on 01-19-09 03:41 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99051


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DahrkDaiz
Posted on 01-19-09 04:05 PM Link | Quote | ID: 99052


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Just remember, I was at your position at one point to. A little rom hacker with big dreams and no clue how to get them done. I didn't ask people to teach me. I asked people to point me in the right direction. The materials and resources are out there for you to use. Just don't expect anybody to give you a hand out. Rom hacking is 20% actual work and 80% learning the process.

RetroRain
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Speaking of hand out, I find it funny that during the time you made your post, I was actually making up that little tutorial. But DahrkDaiz is right, don't expect hand-outs. I made that little tutorial to give new guys a push in the right direction. A majority of it is the learning process. This is just a sample of what you need to learn.

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Mariofan0
Posted on 01-20-09 01:10 AM Link | Quote | ID: 99094


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anyways yea ive moved the project to GM7 its easyer and will allow more expandability so...

however when I get around to it I will take a look at those tutorials to see what I can learn.

im quite busy with PM's and IM's and fourms in general that I may not be able to get Back to you guys for quite some time though.

anyways this fourm can be closed due to the fact that this is no longer a rom hacking project and I no longer need Help dont worry rommaniac you can continue doing the GFX for the game.

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