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Main - ROM Hacking Related Releases - The Legend of Zelda: Journey of a Day - RELEASE! | New thread | New reply |
optomon |
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Leever Level: 33 Posts: 125/198 EXP: 220449 Next: 8730 Since: 03-05-07 From: Vancouver, WA Last post: 2455 days Last view: 2044 days |
I have 58 game overs, and except for one instance where I had to read the read me to find one of the magic containers, I've been mostly doing this without his help. But I haven't even completed the game yet.
I'm royally stuck and am missing two spells (fairy and spell) and two items (the glove and the magic key). There are like a million areas that seem totally pointless once you get the boots and explore even more of the map. |
Trax |
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Yellow Stalfos Level: 71 Posts: 591/1145 EXP: 3035445 Next: 131669 Since: 07-06-07 From: Québec Last post: 3625 days Last view: 2877 days |
Posted by Reshaper256 From what I know, experience stealing is completely hard-coded. It's just a simple if statement that applies for the entire game. If the enemy has its Steal Experience bit set, then the code just checks if the enemy is a Moa. If it is, lose 20 points, else lose 10. That's it. The routine can easily be modified to anything else, but I don't think Ice Penguin had enough knowledge of it at the time... Posted by Reshaper Although I understand how it's frustrating to have to start over when you die, aren't all Zelda games (and many others) like this? If you can't really be Game Over, where's the challenge? All other Zelda games don't even have a lives system... I presume it's fair to have lives in Zelda II since it's possibly the only of the series where you can die instantly. Compare this to Ocarina of Time, in which Link is litterally invincible even if he falls from the top of Death Mountain. The only thing I always despised about Zelda II is that the continue option is almost totally useless. In Zelda I, if you die in a Dungeon, you can at least hit continue and start at the beginning of the dungeon. In Zelda II, it works only if you are in the last Palace. However, this could also be hacked quite easily... |
Kiwi |
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Newcomer Level: 8 Posts: 7/8 EXP: 1786 Next: 401 Since: 04-02-07 Last post: 5678 days Last view: 5660 days |
Posted by optomon *SPOILERS AHEAD* I reckon your next step is to find the Wacky Palace, which has a power bracelet (aka the glove), after which it gains u access to the Magic Potion for the Fairy Spell. The Wacky Palace is hidden just like the original Zelda 2's Palace 6. Blow the flute in the desert region directly south of the dock in Eastern Hyrule. |
optomon |
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Leever Level: 33 Posts: 126/198 EXP: 220449 Next: 8730 Since: 03-05-07 From: Vancouver, WA Last post: 2455 days Last view: 2044 days |
I already found it. Such a horribly unfair secret.
EDIT: I'm at 76 game overs now, mainly because of the green palace and getting the item in it. I'm pretty close to finishing the game. Also, there is a room in the second palace that, as far as I can tell, is completely pointless. It irritates me because I wasted a key on it. DOUBLE EDIT: 82 game overs. The "everything you know is wrong" palace is really easy to die in and I haven't passed it yet. The fairy spell eats up way too much magic, I don't know how many times I'm forced to kill myself because I'm a few bars short of the fairy spell. Right after the part where you have to use fairy over is another part that requires refelct, and unless I want to kill bits for 15 minutes straight and go crazy, I'm not going to have enough magic for it unless I kill myself. |
Reshaper256 |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 23/24 EXP: 9301 Next: 966 Since: 03-07-07 From: United States Last post: 5675 days Last view: 5128 days |
Posted by TraxIt sounds like a one or two byte change to me, and not hard at all to find. If Ice Penguin ever opted to change these values, I'd help find the bytes for him if needed. Posted by TraxAre modern action/exploration games with the checkpoint system, like Halo, Prince of Persia, etc., considered unchallenging? The point is, many people HATED Zelda II, and while I wasn't really among these people, I can certainly see where a lot of players who weren't Zelda fanatics could become ticked off nearer the end of the game, being thrown back to the starting palace after a long trek back to the harder sections only to die again. I do realize that it takes away a lot of the challenge, but it's my view that this challenge you speak of -- getting thrown back to the beginning -- isn't that fun to start with. And begging your pardon, Zelda II is nothing like other Zelda games, where you restart at the last dungeon you died in and there are no instant deaths. My argument is that Zelda II's system of throwing you all the way back to the beginning is too frustrating for most people to find it fun, which is part of why it's so unpopular among average gamers and non-Zelda fanatics. Posted by TraxI completely agree, except for it being "hacked quite easily." If it could be done, I'd totally prefer this to the current system, or to my proposed infinite lives. But I've already said enough... I'll shut up now. ____________________ Zelda 3 Challenge ~ Quest for Calatia Official Zelda3C ASM Hacker |
HylianFox |
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Blue Octorok Level: 16 Posts: 1/39 EXP: 18352 Next: 1904 Since: 10-08-08 From: St.Charles, IL Last post: 2707 days Last view: 2680 days |
hey Doug, it's me from the FAQs!
I don't know if you read my message yet, but I finished this game last night(easy version) Alot of the people here make good points, ESPECIALLY as far as clues to item locations(and the Wacky Palace). Also, my emulator allows me to rewind. Meaning if I die or waste magic or make any other mistake will exploring, I can just hold the L button for a second or two. It saved me so much time and frustration. (not that it made finding things any easier ;P) |
Mike Fireball |
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Newcomer Level: 8 Posts: 4/8 EXP: 1705 Next: 482 Since: 10-06-08 From: Flow Rider Last post: 5671 days Last view: 5652 days |
Seriously where in the desert am I supposed to play the flute in order to make this damn palace appear?
EDIT: Found it. |
Ice Penguin |
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Popo Level: 51 Posts: 440/539 EXP: 991130 Next: 22808 Since: 02-20-07 From: Kasuto Last post: 4787 days Last view: 4787 days |
Version 1.4! I made things easier in the Easy Version. I reduced lava/water pits, and also reduced the enemy encounter rate. For the Hard version, I completely redesigned the Great Palace. It's intense now. I'm still working on making new hints... even though it's too late. Posted by optomonWait, which palace is this in? |
Reshaper256 |
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Goomba Level: 13 Posts: 24/24 EXP: 9301 Next: 966 Since: 03-07-07 From: United States Last post: 5675 days Last view: 5128 days |
Posted by Ice PenguinCool, glad to see you're still working on things. I'll give this one a try right away. ____________________ Zelda 3 Challenge ~ Quest for Calatia Official Zelda3C ASM Hacker |
FranMichaels |
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Newcomer Level: 7 Posts: 5/7 EXP: 1403 Next: 45 Since: 08-04-08 Last post: 5583 days Last view: 5583 days |
Like it a lot. I think Zelda II is underrated (and similarly to Faxanadu, a hack of that would be great...)
It works perfectly in mednafen 0.8.9 (on Ubuntu 8.10 beta). Anyway, going to try out the new patch. I admit to playing the easy version... And I'm totally lost, but it's part of the fun. Yay candle and JUMP! |
optomon |
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Leever Level: 33 Posts: 128/198 EXP: 220449 Next: 8730 Since: 03-05-07 From: Vancouver, WA Last post: 2455 days Last view: 2044 days |
Posted by Ice Penguin The silly/wacky/checkerboard palace. I initially killed the first boss and game overed on the second boss, which is the glitchy looking one you use reflect on. I had to play through the whole level on, and after the fairy part over the long pit, I dont have enough magic to fight the boss (unless I want to tediously kill the red bits over and over again). Unless I'm missing something... Anyway I'm up to the last palace now, and haven't touched the game in a good while. I'll finish soon enough though. And I'm glad to hear you are thoroughly making revisions. |
Ice Penguin |
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Popo Level: 51 Posts: 441/539 EXP: 991130 Next: 22808 Since: 02-20-07 From: Kasuto Last post: 4787 days Last view: 4787 days |
FranMichaels, thanks for the comment! It's good to know people like my hack.
optomon, they are invisible, but there are red jars hidden throughout the Wacky Palace. (and they aren't in breakable blocks, so stab the air in weird places) Also, in the 1.4 update, I reduced magic consumption. |
HylianFox |
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Blue Octorok Level: 16 Posts: 2/39 EXP: 18352 Next: 1904 Since: 10-08-08 From: St.Charles, IL Last post: 2707 days Last view: 2680 days |
I still have the first version. |
optomon |
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Leever Level: 33 Posts: 129/198 EXP: 220449 Next: 8730 Since: 03-05-07 From: Vancouver, WA Last post: 2455 days Last view: 2044 days |
yay |
TwoTone |
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Micro-Goomba Level: 10 Posts: 1/14 EXP: 3945 Next: 469 Since: 10-12-08 From: Dearly Farm Last post: 4608 days Last view: 4021 days |
Edit: Got the flute but now I don;t know where to find the sand palace at |
HylianFox |
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Blue Octorok Level: 16 Posts: 3/39 EXP: 18352 Next: 1904 Since: 10-08-08 From: St.Charles, IL Last post: 2707 days Last view: 2680 days |
Posted by TwoTone The Sand Palace is in the graveyard surrounded by mountains. there's a pit near Link's Tomb. unless, you mean the Wacky Palace. |
Bowtar |
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Newcomer Level: 6 Posts: 1/5 EXP: 842 Next: 65 Since: 10-13-08 Last post: 5670 days Last view: 5670 days |
I have been stuck in the Graveyard Palace for some time now. I can't find the key to the 3rd locked door, the one guarded by 2 blue iron knuckles.
I can see 3 more keys in the palace but they all seem to be out of reach: 2 under blocks in the rooms with crumbling bridges, and 1 near the entrance on a high ledge with an illusionary wall under it that leads to nowhere. Any help would be much appreciated! Great hack BTW, I'm enjoying it alot |
TwoTone |
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Micro-Goomba Level: 10 Posts: 2/14 EXP: 3945 Next: 469 Since: 10-12-08 From: Dearly Farm Last post: 4608 days Last view: 4021 days |
Posted by HylianFoxPosted by TwoTone Nope, not even close to the Wacky Palace yet. But thanks I've gotten the raft |
HylianFox |
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Blue Octorok Level: 16 Posts: 4/39 EXP: 18352 Next: 1904 Since: 10-08-08 From: St.Charles, IL Last post: 2707 days Last view: 2680 days |
Posted by Bowtar There's a trick you have to do with an elevator to get that one. In one of the rooms that has an elevator, use it to go up into a room that has Bots and breakable blocks(there's 4 total with that layout, only 1 leads to the key), you shouldn't be able to go any higher... or can you? Get off and on the elevator rapidly until it goes up into a false wall(there's a rupee there if you want it), then drop back down and fall into the elevator shaft like a pit. Bingo. |
Bowtar |
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Newcomer Level: 6 Posts: 2/5 EXP: 842 Next: 65 Since: 10-13-08 Last post: 5670 days Last view: 5670 days |
Posted by HylianFox Wow, that was really hard to find! It almost felt more like exploiting a bug than using the intended method. Thanks |
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