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AlwaysBored
Posted on 07-03-08 02:43 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86680


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I'm another one of those teenagers that loves to hack SMW with Lunar Magic, and I got basic experience in finding offsets in ROMs although, I'm not an awesome ASM hacker, not at all. Anyways, I know how to program in C# and Visual Basic (I prefer C#), and I can do slightly advanced things in both, I once made a simple enemy editor for Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, it could edit the HP of like three enemies I found and save them back to the ROM converted to hex. I can work with the picturebox object and do a lot of things with it.

Anyways, to really master the thing, one needs experience, and I'm not really sure with what game to begin with. Some tell me a NES game would be easy enough, others tell me SNES games are easier to edit, and I really have no idea which to edit. For a first time, I would prefer a game that has already been hacked enough and there are enough documents about how to hack it. Any such game? Documents I should read?

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Googie
Posted on 07-03-08 03:18 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86681


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Last view: 1 day 		I was always told that NES games are easier to work with instead of SNES games. Well, if you want take a look at Data Crystal, there's data for various games there. So yeah, look around the site and find a game that'll tickles your fancy.

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Arbe
Posted on 07-04-08 01:48 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86771

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Last view: 1531 days 		There's no point staying behind with all the current hackers, jump straight to N64 roms. Crack open Super Smash Brothers and try and rip some levels from it, or design some sort of editor for it. Or just find any data at all. Rom hacking for games made pre-2000 is dead, for all intensive purposes, so get with the times before the rest of the community, so to speak.

CKY-9K
Posted on 07-04-08 01:53 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86772


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Pfft start at NES.

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Posted on 07-04-08 03:29 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86777

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Posted by CKY-2K
Pfft start at NES.


How about providing a reason or an explanation for this? At least then it would be considerable.

AlwaysBored
Posted on 07-04-08 06:19 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86789


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Last view: 5581 days 		I don't have much knowledge in ROM hacking. I'm pretty sure jumping to the N64 isn't a good idea. Also, I couldn't find a NES game I'd feel comfortable hacking. How about GB/GBC games? I would attempt to hack a non-documented game if I were to find a good z80 ASM tutorial.

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Posted on 07-04-08 07:42 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86794


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Try to find some stuff in Minish Cap, there is no editor, and I've been told the data is uncompressed .

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Posted by Xeruss
Try to find some stuff in Minish Cap, there is no editor, and I've been told the data is uncompressed .
Which makes you wonder why there's no editor in the first place.

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Posted on 07-04-08 11:02 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86829


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Last view: 2871 days 		Start with NES... Definitely...
Learning ASM for the 6502 is not too hard and a good start if you want to learn the basics...

NightKev
Posted on 07-05-08 02:58 AM Link | Quote | ID: 86847


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C# eh? Help DahrkDaiz with his SMB3 editor (maybe help him make it compatible with SMAS-SMB3 ).

Also, Arbe, it's "for all intents and purposes" not "for all intensive purposes".

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AlwaysBored
Posted on 07-05-08 04:04 AM Link | Quote | ID: 86852


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Last view: 5581 days 		Yeah well, I was thinking on gameboy games instead. I already got a few documents ready on the ASM so, I guess I'll start with the gameboy.

Thanks for the suggestion everybody!

Xeruss
Posted on 07-05-08 05:18 AM Link | Quote | ID: 86856


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Posted by Kawa
Posted by Xeruss
Try to find some stuff in Minish Cap, there is no editor, and I've been told the data is uncompressed .
Which makes you wonder why there's no editor in the first place.

Well, if you ever finish with openpoke...

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Start with a game you like.

(Also, GBA hacking is pretty easy to get started with, too)

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Posted on 07-06-08 03:51 AM Link | Quote | ID: 86901


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Last view: 1245 days 		If it was me, I'd start with the NES, there are so many classics that are screaming for editors. Please consider some of these editors, the DOS ones would be really good to see in Windows, etc.

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Posted on 07-06-08 06:46 PM Link | Quote | ID: 86947


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Last view: 4835 days 		I agree that GBC is a good system to start hacking with. In particular, some games like Pokemon G/S have been hacked to oblivion.

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Posted by Arbe
Rom hacking for games made pre-2000 is dead

Really? Actually, I have trouble finding any post-2000 hacks here. (And even Super Smash Bros is pre-2000...)
Solid 2D games are more "timeless" than early 3D ones...

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Posted by Arbe
Posted by CKY-2K
Pfft start at NES.


How about providing a reason or an explanation for this? At least then it would be considerable.


Most easy system to be helped with and it's pretty easy to understand and hack.

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Zycor
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Posted on 07-14-08 01:16 AM Link | Quote | ID: 87428


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Super Mario World indeed might be a good point of starting. It might well be the one game with the most advanced and polished editor having been made out there, contains none of the tricky aspects of RPGs and holds considerably more possibilities than NES games. Additionally, framework software like Blocktool and Sprtool allows one to make a "soft", guided kind of entry into assembly hacking and the other higher tiers of ROM manipulation.
If you, on the other hand, seek to start off with "proper hacking" right away, one of the numberless obscure puzzle games for the NES might be a good choice since they are straightforward enough to hack and exist in vast numbers.

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Posted on 07-14-08 07:17 PM Link | Quote | ID: 87459


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Posted by Arbe
There's no point staying behind with all the current hackers, jump straight to N64 roms. Crack open Super Smash Brothers and try and rip some levels from it, or design some sort of editor for it.


That would be a fucking good idea.

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