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Har D. Har Koopa
Posted on 07-23-07 06:18 AM Link | Quote | ID: 57038


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Here is my new Fire Red hack, Pokemon Rocket Black. I have posted the maps below. The beta patch will be released August 13th.



















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Posted on 07-23-07 06:24 AM Link | Quote | ID: 57040


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Hmm, I have to say I'm not terribly enthralled by this. Most of the routes look incredibly similar to the original ones.

Har D. Har Koopa
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That is because it is still Kanto, just a parrallel world. Rockets own Pallet, and in rebuttle, Viridian became completely controlled by the League. The guy who was building stuff now has built a Power Plant, so the old was torn down. Celebi is in Viridian Forest, and Lavender has a GYM! Also, no Sevii Isles! So sorry.

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That sounds stupid. Why is Celebi in Viridian Forest? That makes no sense. Make a more original story and setting.

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Posted by Har D. Har Koopa in his accidental New Thread
DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO MAKE A WHOLE NEW REGION! I AM A MAPPER, NOT A SCRIPTER! CELEBI IS THERE BECAUSE I CANNOT THINK OF ANOTHER PLACE FOR HIM, JUST LIKE REGIROCK IN MT. MOON. I am sorry, I need to calm down. Whoo... Sorry, but I am very picky. But please, criticism is ok, but saying I should completely re-do the hack pisses me off. I have spent over 4 months on this.


I know losing 4 months of work can be a little discouraging. However, it's a very powerful learning experience and I've learned that starting over (only when you have to) is an awesome learning experience. Starting over means you've already done this, and it'll be a little easier this time around.

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Har D. Har Koopa
Posted on 07-23-07 07:21 AM Link | Quote | ID: 57068


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I know what you are talking about, one day I took a look at my fanfic and relised I had to redo it. It was almost required then, it was poorly written. However, this is not the case with this hack. I mean, look at Pokemon Quartz, their maps are very alike to the original's. Mine are supposed to be alike: IT IS THE SAME REGION. No disrespect, but I have started over 15 hacks, and this is the only one that has gotten good reviews. the others had REALLY bad mapping, and corny stories. But I have sent pre-betas to some people, and I am only getting the complaint that there is little Text editing, and that is because I suck at that. So please, say what I can do to fix the maps if you don't like something about them, but please don't ask me to redo this whole hack.

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If you maps look barely different from the original after four months of work, then you're a very slow worker >.>

Har D. Har Koopa
Posted on 07-23-07 09:35 AM Link | Quote | ID: 57099


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Barely different? I used different tilesets, new additions, and legendary locations. And besides, during that time I also had to struggle with Overworld editing, event relocations, and Warp changing. I also spent some of that time listening to MuggleCast, like now:-)

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Sorry, but this is poor. Look at Pokémon Brown/Prism for an example of what you should do.

Firstly, start from scratch. No one wants to play through something they've done a million times before. Even if there is a celebi in viridian forest (which is also fucking retarded. Oh whoop-de-doo, I can get a celebi! well, I can do that with gameshark anyway).

Delete all the maps, and create your own from scratch. Make sure none of your maps have any resemblance to the originals at all. Concentrate on making a good game with good playability. Dont go for stupid gimmicks like putting legendary pokemon in viridian forest and saying 'OH DOWNLOAD MY HACK, THIS MAKES IT SO AWESOME AND ORIGINAL!'.

From those screenshots of 'four months' of work, it looks like something someone could have achieved in a couple of hours of just tinkering with the program after first downloading it.

Sorry, but I'm just being honest.

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Four months? You've got a LOT of work ahead. I've spend over six years so far on Super Mario World and am still not even 50% done.

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Once I get a good scripter, you will get the National Dex instead of the PokeDex. Also, no Pokemon will appear in two different places. Cinnabar is destroyed, so Blaine has no Gym. In order to get into Lavender Gym, you must go to Cinnabar and go into the Volcano (where later you can catch Entei) and find the Key to it. Also, I should tell you the story. Your mission given to you by the Boss is to go to the 9 Treasuries (Including the League). Instead of badges, you get machine parts, and when all are combined Team Rocket will gain the Ultimate Weapon! Also, wild Pokemon are directly related to the town it sits near. Example: Route 3 has Rock Pokemon and the Forest has Bug Pokemon. I really need someone to change the Gym sign to a Treasury sign. So, currently my only employee, I mean minion, employees get payed...but my minion DarkCharizard257 helps me by changing Trainer's Pokemon and Overworld sprites. So, yeah...

Omi
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None of thats hard at all.

Overworld sprites and trainers pokemans - Event Viewer

Change Gym sign > Treasury sign - Block Editor

Your idea of pokemon being similar to the areas is stupid. It's not like birds can't land in grass outside a tunnel and that rats and bats can go into forests.

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Har D. Har Koopa
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Well, think about it. I have to put 386 Pokemon in one game. THAT IS REALLY HARD. Caves and stuff might have Pokemon that appear somewhere else, but still, what I am doing will make fitting all non-legends in one region much easier.

P.S. I do not know where to find a block editor.

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Har D. Har Koopa
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Oh, I will stop that. Thank you for the advise:-)

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Theres one built into advance map, in Tools.

And, theres a reason why pokemon show up in more than one area, you know.

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Har D. Har Koopa
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Well, the one in AdvanceMap can only change colors, not alter them completely. I could not use it to change the text of a block.

Erika
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This whole thing still sounds stupid. Regirock inMt Moon is horrible because Mt Moon is an early area in the game, legendaries are supposed to require effort to capture. The storyline is just dumb, and by the looks of things you are making other people do the hack for you, such as graphics and editing trainers. Any idiot can change what tileset a map uses and move a few objects around, it should not have taken you four months and this is not a hack most people will want to play. If Gamefreak released this game do you think they would make any money off of it? No, because it is not a fun game that people would want to play. Keep that in mind--is my hack of a quality the original games were, without....you know, BEING THE ORIGINAL GAMES?

I also wish that everyone would stop using Brown as an example of what to acheive. Seriously....has anyone even played it? There's items and peopel stuck in walls, completely unbalanced battles....didn't the third gym have a level 86 Raichu? Just because a hack is complete does not always mean it is good. Good thing to keep in mind....

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