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| Main - The Landfill - A review of what happened. | New thread | New reply |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 1145/3965 EXP: 19775437 Next: 281259 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3299 days Last view: 2050 days |
After a discussion between me, Acmlm, emuz and blackhole89 we decided to remove access of Xkeeper. Xk kept losing faith among us, and blackhole89, along with Acmlm decided to cut his access of the boards server space and database. Him trunctating the tables in both Acmlmwiki and Acmlmboard database only reinforced this (this is why we had a rollback on the board...).
As of now, we're planning a staff re-org. Applications will be judged by Acmlm, Emuz and me. ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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| Hiryuu |
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Done. Level: 79 Posts: 1405/1471 EXP: 4468729 Next: 110738 Since: 02-19-07 From: ??? Last post: 6084 days Last view: 6076 days |
In before drama llama. |
| Madman200 |
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Level: 58 Posts: 573/726 EXP: 1549333 Next: 28213 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 4449 days Last view: 4449 days |
With four words? You could've done better.
As far as I'm concerned... ...the whole deal's whack. Just...whack. ...what now? |
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 Melon Bug Level: 58 Posts: 484/732 EXP: 1568566 Next: 8980 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 4251 days Last view: 3510 days |
Posted by Ailure So, how do we apply? Post? PM? |
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 Beezo Level: 49 Posts: 88/489 EXP: 856507 Next: 27376 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 3814 days Last view: 3814 days |
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Level: 48 Posts: 434/458 EXP: 776353 Next: 47190 Since: 02-19-07 From: The Void Last post: 3028 days Last view: 3028 days |
I do not see the point in this; this board is relatively small, and does not need more staff. What it needs is a real leader, which this sort of chaos has done nothing but prevent the existence of.
Personally, I would simply suggest finding a new, non-controversial person to run the board to fill the shoes of Xkeeper. If you have multiple staff, they are likely to conflict with one another, and as I have personally seen, if you're not all on the same side, it's gonna cause a mess. But I will not waste space here if no one is interested in my opinion. |
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 Spike Dragon Level: 57 Posts: 636/705 EXP: 1482698 Next: 3230 Since: 02-19-07 From: 
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Pretty much, Xk knew he was gonig to get put out of power, so he decided to have fun before it happened, and the result is this.
Kinda funny how a board explodes because knuck joins an irc channel.  Apparently that was the last straw.____________________  |
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Spike Level: 58 Posts: 665/709 EXP: 1494159 Next: 83387 Since: 03-01-07 From: California Last post: 6002 days Last view: 3028 days |
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Beezo Level: 49 Posts: 89/489 EXP: 856507 Next: 27376 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 3814 days Last view: 3814 days |
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 Cape Luigi Level: 131 Posts: 1628/4792 EXP: 26225137 Next: 199483 Since: 03-15-07 Last post: 3732 days Last view: 3644 days |
What we need is 1 main admin, with maybe 2 co-admins. Obviously Acmlm won't be the main admin because within another week he'll pretty much stop caring (yet again), and bh doesn't want to be head admin. So we're stuck with BMF, Hiryuu, or someone else (Emuz?). ____________________ |
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 The Guardian Moloch whose eyes are a thousand blind windows! Level: 124 Posts: 295/4196 EXP: 21528940 Next: 307661 Since: 02-19-07 From: Ithaca, NY, US Last post: 469 days Last view: 81 days |
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Level: 105 Posts: 2624/2846 EXP: 12026006 Next: 236254 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6057 days Last view: 2795 days |
As I had said to you many times, I was willing to leave quietly and planned to after I had my things sorted out and removed from the server.
But I knew this was coming. I secretly added a bomb... if I was allowed to leave peacefully within a few days, it would have been fine and you would continue on as you were, without what has happened. I also knew blackhole89 took backups. Ailure lied to me, as well, which only served to heighten my sense of what was coming. "blackhole89 is wiling to talk", "compromise", "he doesn't want it to end this way". But it was all lies. I had prepared myself to leave. I have (somewhat) secretly been taking backups of the wiki, board, and my own personal sect. I was going to take one more before I left to have a final backup, then I would leave and take my small side-community with me. I am sorry it ended this way. I have seen retaliation from blackhole89, and his lies ("I will not override your decisions"), and more... I was an idiot to believe him. I wish you the best of luck, but I am also sure this will repeat again. Until Acmlm either has full control or closes his community, people will use him as a scapegoat to get what they want. He never voices his opinon, so you can easily convince him otherwise. As much as I know all of you are looking at me in an evil light, I can understand your opinion. I know how it feels. All I have to say, is that I am disappointed in blackhole89, and Ailure. Ailure using constant threats to try to make me co-operate and not leave, blackhole89 going behind my back to do this... I am leaving this community. You have made it overwhelmingly known that your staff, your new member base will not tolerate me. I will take who I have on my side and leave. Those of you who are interested may join irc.acmlm.org #x for updates, because my current side community here was destroyed just as I destroyed yours. So, for those of you who are tl;dr's: Good luck with your new board, and most of all, welcome your new overlords. It's been a good six years. I only wish it didn't end this way. ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Level: 48 Posts: 436/458 EXP: 776353 Next: 47190 Since: 02-19-07 From: The Void Last post: 3028 days Last view: 3028 days |
Posted by blackhole89 Large staff can result in grouped up factions, and Incarnation 2 exploded. I am curious as to more reasons why you think small administration numbers are bad. People who lean towards one person winning out shouldn't really be staff in the first place, unless they have complete control. Hence, for your idea of Acmlm's board, I can see why you deposed Xkeeper. But more staff simply means more opinions, and thus the most popular opinion wins out. That's not so much impartial as it is rule-by-majority. I have seen these in place in many places. I worry for the effectiveness of this system. Unless, of course, you select for impartiality; then you could have something like the Supreme Court. Tell me... you know some history, right? How did Incarnation 2's system crash to bring us here in the first place? I do not have quite as good a clue as you would. And as I said earlier, it worries me. I do not want the board to explode.... again. |
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 Mole Level: 43 Posts: 217/363 EXP: 547786 Next: 17260 Since: 02-19-07 From: Massachusetts/Virginia Last post: 4347 days Last view: 3326 days |
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 Cobrat Level: 56 Posts: 402/653 EXP: 1321502 Next: 76674 Since: 02-21-07 Last post: 5338 days Last view: 4840 days |
We all know that no matter how it ends, there'd probably be at least one person I, like most people, have problems remembering how stuff goes when it's going good. I think the group on this board seemed to do alright. (My main memory about incarnation 2 was the constant complaints by Tomguy et al. about having their positions removed, until they were put back.) |
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Hats Steam Board2 group Level: 121 Posts: 1146/3965 EXP: 19775437 Next: 281259 Since: 02-19-07 From: Sweden, Skåne Last post: 3299 days Last view: 2050 days |
Heh, oh the good old days of Tomguy.
It was even more fun when he gave the password to nobodysworld too when he stopped caring...  ____________________ AIM: gamefreak1337, MSN: Emil_sim@spray.se, XMPP: ailure@xmpp.kafuka.org
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Level: 75 Posts: 1213/1301 EXP: 3716741 Next: 110163 Since: 02-19-07 From: Canada |
Leaving a bomb is a stupid idea and it's immature and it only made you look like a demon. Sorry Xkeeper, you didn't handle it any better than the people who you feel screwed you.
Having said that, what's the FULL story? |
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Level: 58 Posts: 575/726 EXP: 1549333 Next: 28213 Since: 02-20-07 Last post: 4449 days Last view: 4449 days |
Posted by Xkeeper Well... Although it may not seem like it, I had respect for you. I didn't see you as an...overlord, but more like "guy who has college and fails in history". Or something like that. Thing is, while we may not have liked each other at some point, I gave you respect, and I believed that to be enough. If only...something...happened...then we could have a finished RPG. But now that progress has dropped, and everyone else should know about it, I think. After all, who was it that started the base coding? (If the real answer is different, then "Something Vile") |
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Level: 105 Posts: 2625/2846 EXP: 12026006 Next: 236254 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6057 days Last view: 2795 days |
Posted by KlesIt is my way of attempting to gaurentee that I will have enough time to leave peacefully. The idea is that, if both sides are peaceful, both sides will come out fine. But with this, if you attack, I can attack back. I did not enjoy doing it. I held myself back from blowing it up immediately and leaving, because I wanted peace. But it just goes to show you that no matter how you try, you can never have peace. Nothing works. I have said my opinion. I am done with the community. I don't want to see it get run into the ground like the second board was, by too many staff and other horrible mistakes that were made. The community has been falling, yes, but it always has been. I wish you people would realize this. ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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Level: 105 Posts: 2626/2846 EXP: 12026006 Next: 236254 Since: 02-19-07 Last post: 6057 days Last view: 2795 days |
Grey> Ace, BH, and Emuz: permission to troll Xkeeper?
I like how you people call me immature, but you turn around and do this. Forgive me, but I am chuckling at you. Welcome to the loop. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. ____________________ I dealt with it. |
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