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NightKev
Posted on 06-24-07 05:39 AM (rev. 12 of 07-09-07 07:18 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 49048


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There don't seem to be many pokemon hacks here.

Random stuff:
Hack of: Fire Red
Title: Pokemon: Trial Road
Percent finished: 0.025%
Tools Used: Adv Map

Edit: Well I'm starting the hack over (in FR this time), but it WILL get done!

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Tyty
Posted on 06-24-07 07:59 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49085


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looking good, but shouldn't grass NOT be used in towns, specifically the starting town?

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NightKev
Posted on 06-24-07 07:59 AM (rev. 3 of 07-07-07 04:20 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 49086


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Posted by tyty210
looking good, but shouldn't grass NOT be used in towns, specifically the starting town?
But doesn't it look nice?

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theclaw
Posted on 06-24-07 08:02 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49088


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IIRC map tiles and their behavior are handled separately in that game. It can be tedious needing to set both for every square one edits.

Well, those pictures are in a very early state. It'll be easier to make constructive comments once more progress is made.

I have long-dead hacks of Red, Gold, and Sapphire (least changes of them). The little I did is downloadable to be improved on or whatever.

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Skreeny
Posted on 06-24-07 08:10 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49095


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Of course it doesn't work. Towns are specifically designated no-wild-Pokemon areas. Just run around in the grass in Pallet in R/B/Y/FR/LG and see. As an alternative, you could probably repoint a few of the wild-Pokemon-capable maps, add warps and such and make them into (what would be seen as) towns. That may be a bit too much work, though.

The routes look very nice. The towns on the other hand... For the first screenshot, I'd suggest not using the Secret Base trees. It's misleading. Shuffle the border trees around a bit so it doesn't look like it still has the outline of Oldale (I know you moved the buildings, but something about it still screams "I USED TO BE OLDALE TOWN" at me).

Wataow... Just redo it. Use the grass and water if you like (They do spice up the place, I'll admit), but given that that's the only visible change from Littleroot, it needs a lot of work.

Best of luck and all that.

HyperHacker
Posted on 06-24-07 08:24 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49100

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Posted by Skreeny
Of course it doesn't work. Towns are specifically designated no-wild-Pokemon areas. Just run around in the grass in Pallet in R/B/Y/FR/LG and see.
At least in the originals, that just crashed the game, because you were outside the map.

Skreeny
Posted on 06-24-07 08:26 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49102


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Wrong grass. There are two squares (INSIDE bounds) at the top that are inside Pallet, although it looks like they should be on Route 1.

Darkdata
Posted on 06-24-07 08:43 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49108


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THh newest advance map lets you add wild battles in town, however I do not recommend it due to glitcyness and (?) pokemon.

Your map of the first town needs to be cleaned up a bit...

Also, you map style is chatioc, however some parts don't make sense, like the fence around the flower.

There are a few other tools you can use to help you, like advance text, and mart, and a good old hex editor.

My site should have a bunch of other stuff that should get you started. However it has not been updated in.. ever.

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Koolboyman
Posted on 06-24-07 09:16 AM (rev. 10 of 06-24-07 09:25 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 49118


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Posted by Koolboyman

"I'm a fan of the hundreds of active hacks on Pokecommunity today, 95% don't follow Coolboyman's most important rule: Clear out the entire map before making your own. So most of the hacks I play are half assed hacks where the first town looks a LOT like Littleroot."


Had to be said man, clear out the old map 100% before making your own. Otherwise, this is just ANOTHER hack... Compare littleroot to your first town




Yep, the kind of "First town" I see in about 95% of Ruby/sapphire hacks, one that looks the same as littleroot.

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NightKev
Posted on 06-25-07 12:54 AM (rev. 3 of 07-07-07 04:24 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 49203


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Posted by Koolboyman
Posted by Koolboyman

"I'm a fan of the hundreds of active hacks on Pokecommunity today, 95% don't follow Coolboyman's most important rule: Clear out the entire map before making your own. So most of the hacks I play are half assed hacks where the first town looks a LOT like Littleroot."


Had to be said man, clear out the old map 100% before making your own. Otherwise, this is just ANOTHER hack... Compare littleroot to your first town

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Yep, the kind of "First town" I see in about 95% of Ruby/sapphire hacks, one that looks the same as littleroot.
Yeah I was planning to redo the first town completely .

Edit: First town is completely different from original first town now that I've restarted hack.

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Shadic
Posted on 06-25-07 04:20 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49253


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I don't generally play much for pokemon, but I just thought I'd say that I disagree with the grass placement on your route maps - especially the 101 map. Getting into random battles can be a pain when you don't want them, but even more so when you DO want them and you only have teesny tiny areas that have them. Ever tried to find a Pink Puff in FF4? Yeah.

NightKev
Posted on 06-25-07 04:50 AM (rev. 4 of 07-07-07 04:23 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 49257


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Posted by Gideon Zhi
I don't generally play much for pokemon, but I just thought I'd say that I disagree with the grass placement on your route maps - especially the 101 map. Getting into random battles can be a pain when you don't want them, but even more so when you DO want them and you only have teesny tiny areas that have them. Ever tried to find a Pink Puff in FF4? Yeah.
So you think it needs more grass?
I already upped the encounter rate x4 so I don't think finding wild pokemon will be a problem (and if you don't want to encounter one there's little required walk-through grass). So there doesn't seem to be a problem there.

Edit: argh. Apparently adv map doesn't like me trying to edit map connections. I get "I/O Error 31" or something when trying to save modified connections. Anyone know what's wrong?


Edit2: Figured out problem with map connections.

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Luigi-San
Posted on 06-25-07 06:15 AM Link | Quote | ID: 49286


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I don't know what's wrong, NightKev. I'd try using EliteMap if I were you.

Koolboyman
Posted on 06-25-07 08:21 AM (rev. 2 of 06-25-07 08:22 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 49347


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Posted by NightKev
Yeah I was planning to redo the first town completely .


You shouldn't of even showed it in the first place then, nobody wants to see a map with only bushes and floweres moved around. Work on your hack for a while, THEN post about it.

I've had about ten "cancelled" Pokemon hacks, but I never posted about them or acknowledge their existance until I worked on them for about a month. No offense, but what your showing probably took less than an hour, BUT at least you are making the effort to change and build on it.

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NightKev
Posted on 06-25-07 08:23 AM (rev. 2 of 07-07-07 04:24 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 49348


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Posted by Koolboyman
Posted by NightKev
Yeah I was planning to redo the first town completely .


You shouldn't of even showed it in the first place then, nobody wants to see a map with only bushes and floweres moved around. Work on your hack for a while, THEN post about it.

I've had about ten "cancelled" Pokemon hacks, but I never posted about them or acknowledge their existance until I worked on them for about a month. No offense, but what your showing probably took less than an hour, BUT at least you are making the effort to change and build on it.
This hack won't get cancelled. It may take a long time but I'll finish it eventually...
It will go faster if I can figure out wtf is with these errors Adv map and Elite map give me when I try to do things. Edit: Errors figured out.

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Skreeny
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I think the main question is whether you have the file open in multiple things at the same time. I'm pretty sure that's the most likely cause of a write error... The other possibility is that the file is Read-Only, but that's rather implausible.

NightKev
Posted on 07-07-07 07:16 AM (rev. 4 of 07-09-07 07:18 AM) Link | Quote | ID: 52870


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Posted by Skreeny
I think the main question is whether you have the file open in multiple things at the same time. I'm pretty sure that's the most likely cause of a write error... The other possibility is that the file is Read-Only, but that's rather implausible.
Nah it's just a bug with the program, but I found a workaround.

Updates in first post.



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Posted on 07-07-07 11:29 AM Link | Quote | ID: 52921


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Big fat OBJECTION on the grass in towns thing!

In Fire Red/Leaf Green... there is no tall grass in Pallet Town at all! In the original RGBY, there was indeed one tile of grass right there. Designating towns as safe areas is bullshit. Just surf along the edge of Cinnabar Island

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Isn't that area technically in the route next to it?
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