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Raccoon Sam

Posted on 05-18-07 11:11 PM

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Posted by Keitaro
Yeah, my host recently dropped off the face of the internet which led to him not paying his bills--in other words, I would have had those songs up much sooner anyways, I'm hoping to get them up at some point tonight. Sorry for the inconvenience =\

As for me making my own SML2/3 patch? Probably not. But the songs are there for anyone who knows what they are doing to use. *shrug*

Is there a specific reason why you're not posting them into public?

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Posted on 05-19-07 01:39 AM

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Posted by Raccoon Sam
Posted by Keitaro
Yeah, my host recently dropped off the face of the internet which led to him not paying his bills--in other words, I would have had those songs up much sooner anyways, I'm hoping to get them up at some point tonight. Sorry for the inconvenience =\

As for me making my own SML2/3 patch? Probably not. But the songs are there for anyone who knows what they are doing to use. *shrug*

Is there a specific reason why you're not posting them into public?

Becuase people are idiots due to the fact that only 3 people here understand how to hack music

Keitaro

Posted on 05-19-07 05:14 AM (rev. 2 of 05-19-07 05:15 AM)

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Um, posting what? I said I was going to post the SPCs soon but I ran in to some uploading issues as stated. Just bear with me, I'll get you them =\ as for reasons I'm not creating a patch, I just don't feel like its necessary. If someone wants to use my music in their hack, great, then go ahead. But I'm not going to do it for you.. (I originally made the SPCs for my own enjoyment, so)

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Posted on 05-19-07 05:46 AM

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Posted by Keitaro
Um, posting what? I said I was going to post the SPCs soon but I ran in to some uploading issues as stated. Just bear with me, I'll get you them =\ as for reasons I'm not creating a patch, I just don't feel like its necessary. If someone wants to use my music in their hack, great, then go ahead. But I'm not going to do it for you.. (I originally made the SPCs for my own enjoyment, so)

I dont quite know how to use SPC's or how to hack music.Can you PM me how to use the SPC's becuase I really want a hack that is SML2'ish and SML2 music would be EXTREAMLY helpfull!

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Posted on 05-19-07 06:27 AM

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No. Maybe someone else will be willing to do it for you, but I simply do not have the time, sorry.

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Posted on 05-19-07 06:37 PM

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Good to see some more work done on SMW music... I'm not really fond of the game's music, so it's good to see it getting better replacements.

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Becuase people are idiots due to the fact that only 3 people here understand how to hack music

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I dont quite know how to use SPC's or how to hack music.

lol.

troopa pride

Posted on 05-19-07 11:43 PM

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Posted by Keitaro
No. Maybe someone else will be willing to do it for you, but I simply do not have the time, sorry.

Well can you atleast let me know which programs are used so I can add the music manually?
Once I look at a program I can learn to use em in minutes so I dont think I will have too much of a problem

Rich

Posted on 05-20-07 02:17 AM (rev. 6 of 05-20-07 02:21 AM)

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	Posted by troopa pride Posted by Keitaro No. Maybe someone else will be willing to do it for you, but I simply do not have the time, sorry. Well can you atleast let me know which programs are used so I can add the music manually? Once I look at a program I can learn to use em in minutes so I dont think I will have too much of a problem Do you know how to use a hex editor? Because that's what you'll need to use. And if you dont know how Hex works, then seriously - just either forget this or learn how hexadecimal language works yourself, because otherwise you'll never, ever be able to. And no, learning wont take minutes. You cant learn how to do something well in just minutes. Get very good at hacking (start with something incredibly basic, for a start), and maybe next year you MIGHT stand a chance. Maybe. Hell, only 3 or 4 people I know of on this forum have been able to hack the N-SPC/SMW music engines, and they're pretty accomplished hackers. You...dont seem to be, sorry. ____________________ Who needs a signature, anyway?

Raccoon Sam

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Posted by troopa pride
Becuase people are idiots due to the fact that only 3 people here understand how to hack music

Who said anything about hacking?

Posted by Keitaro
Um, posting what? I said I was going to post the SPCs soon but I ran in to some uploading issues as stated. Just bear with me, I'll get you them =\ as for reasons I'm not creating a patch, I just don't feel like its necessary. If someone wants to use my music in their hack, great, then go ahead. But I'm not going to do it for you.. (I originally made the SPCs for my own enjoyment, so)

Sorry, misread you there.
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Posted on 05-20-07 02:34 AM

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Dear Rich:

Please learn how to use "post preview" and stop editing your post over and over. We're really getting tired of it.

-- #rohmacking

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Ribo Zurai

Posted on 05-20-07 02:54 AM

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How can I compile the musics from the game? Because I want to make an Music Patch too. I need of an purely high ASM Learning?

Mattrizzle

Posted on 05-20-07 03:45 AM (rev. 3 of 05-20-07 04:22 AM)

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Now would be the perfect time to dig up Bouche's posts from the oldest board archive(over 5 years ago), but for some reason all but the header and footer of his old posts seem to be missing.

I'll see what I can find in my files, though. I think I may have copied the post that got me into music hacking to an old Word document.

EDIT: Found it! This document is a compilation of some of Bouche's posts, which should give you some basics on hacking the SMAS N-SPC engine. I dunno why it's in Rich Text format, as I didn't make this document.

Also, here is an incomplete list of the N-SPC commands, along with an even more incomplete list of SMW's commands. Note that not all of SMW's commands are correct.

Hopefully, this will aid some people in learning how to hack the music on their own.

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troopa pride

Posted on 05-20-07 03:45 AM (rev. 3 of 05-20-07 07:46 PM)

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Posted by Rich
Posted by troopa pride
Posted by Keitaro
No. Maybe someone else will be willing to do it for you, but I simply do not have the time, sorry.

Well can you atleast let me know which programs are used so I can add the music manually?
Once I look at a program I can learn to use em in minutes so I dont think I will have too much of a problem

Do you know how to use a hex editor?

Because that's what you'll need to use. And if you dont know how Hex works, then seriously - just either forget this or learn how hexadecimal language works yourself, because otherwise you'll never, ever be able to. And no, learning wont take minutes. You cant learn how to do something well in just minutes. Get very good at hacking (start with something incredibly basic, for a start), and maybe next year you MIGHT stand a chance. Maybe.

Hell, only 3 or 4 people I know of on this forum have been able to hack the N-SPC/SMW music engines, and they're pretty accomplished hackers. You...dont seem to be, sorry.

Yes I have used Transhexlation before.
I am actually willing to give this a shot.
Nintendo didnt make Super Mario Bros' engines without trying to make it first though right?
Even though stuff may seem hard, it is possible to make it and is impossible if you dont attempt to make it.

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If I do learn how the N-SPC music engine works does it mean I can port music from KSS/SMW and put it in yoshi's island?

troopa pride

Posted on 05-21-07 06:04 AM (rev. 9 of 05-21-07 05:48 PM)

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Posted by Mattrizzle87
Now would be the perfect time to dig up Bouche's posts from the oldest board archive(over 5 years ago), but for some reason all but the header and footer of his old posts seem to be missing. I'll see what I can find in my files, though. I think I may have copied the post that got me into music hacking to an old Word document.

EDIT: Found it! This document is a compilation of some of Bouche's posts, which should give you some basics on hacking the SMAS N-SPC engine. I dunno why it's in Rich Text format, as I didn't make this document.

Also, here is an incomplete list of the N-SPC commands, along with an even more incomplete list of SMW's commands. Note that not all of SMW's commands are correct.

Hopefully, this will aid some people in learning how to hack the music on their own.

Edit:Ok I was able to find like....thousands of SPC files.Can anyone recommend a program for editing music of a game that uses a N-SPC system?

Mattrizzle

Posted on 05-23-07 07:50 PM

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^{[citation needed]}

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Posted on 05-24-07 01:59 AM

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There's still room for another level track?

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Level Music
01: Yoshi's Cookie: VS. music C
02: Overworld
03: SMB: Underwater hybrid(new SMB2-esque intro)
04: Character Select(used in bonus areas)
05: Subspace(used for P-switch)
06: Cave Prototype
07: SMK: Ghost Valley
08: Interior
09: Death
0A: Game over
0B: Defeat Boss
0C: Bonus Chance(used for black circle end)
0D: Starman
0E: Ending Pt.1(The beginning fanfare; used when Peach is rescued)
0F: Boss battle
10: Level End
11: Yoshi's Cookie Action Interlude(used during castle destruction sequence)
12: Strange unused fanfare(used for bonus end)
13: Warp Zone(used for keyhole exit)
14: Final Battle Pt. 1
15: Final Battle Pt. 2
16: Final Battle Pt. 3
17: Super Scope 6: Lazerblazer Intercept(for use in airship levels)
18: -unused-

Ooh, Tetris Attack tracks are available? If the track you're talking about is the one I'm thinking of, yeah, that would make good bonus music. (A lot of tracks in that game would, in fact)

Hmm... other sound effects? How many more can you fit in? I suppose the sound that Shy Guys make coming out of Pipes in Yoshi's Island is a voice?

Remnic The Hedgehog

Posted on 05-24-07 02:17 AM

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You know what? I really want to see how amazing it would be to have Legend of Zelda music in SMW. It would help me finish darklink898's incomplete Triforce Island hack which I am finishing for him.

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Posted by Remnic The Hedgehog
You know what? I really want to see how amazing it would be to have Legend of Zelda music in SMW. It would help me finish darklink898's incomplete Triforce Island hack which I am finishing for him.

I dont think the Zelda 3 themes fit in smw.Most of the songs use to many instruments and doesent loop quick enough.
Unless we can expand smw's music bank;S Zelda 3 music patch is *IMPOSSIBLE* !!!!!!!!

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	This is slightly off topic, but how do note lengths correspond from MIDI to N-SPC? For example, if I were to manually convert an MIDI file into the Hyrule Magic music editor (or using a hex editor), how long would the note length value be for example, a whole note, or a quarter note? I'm having a whole load of trouble trying to work out the correct values. If that makes any sense at all, that is. I'm incredibly tired. ____________________ Who needs a signature, anyway?

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Posted on 05-24-07 03:21 AM (rev. 2 of 05-24-07 06:07 AM)

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While theres actualy a formula for determining the exact amount of a tick, I tend to go by the following conversion chart for fairly faithful values (these are values Nintendo themself seems to primarily use, so.)

Note conversions
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Hex value - Note Length
03 - 32nd Note
04 - 16th Note Tripplets
06 - 16th Note
08 - 8th Note Tripplets
0C - 8th Note
12 - Dotted 8th Note
18 - Quarter Note
24 - Dotted Quarter Note
30 - Half Note
48 - Dotted Half Note
60 - Whole Note

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