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Tarale    2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata                    Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by windwaker I don't think a switch to Intel architecture from Power PC architecture is any indication at all that Apple are planning to release OS X for regular PC's. I really cannot emphasise this enough -- Apple is a Hardware Company. Selling computer hardware is how Apple makes most of its money. They develop software, which is used to sell their hardware -- this does not make them a software company. Besides, why would they want to sell somebody an OS for a few hundred dollars when they can sell somebody that OS and a computer for a few thousand dollars?
And while it might be easy to think that it would be simple for Apple to switch to a Microsoft-esque software company (selling an OS for regular PCs), it would be very financially risky for Apple to try to do so. I think that OS X will stay on Macintoshes for the forseeable future. Originally posted by ||bass I wouldn't say that it was "copied" from BSD... it's acknowledged that it's built upon UC Berkeley's implementation of BSD, and the Mach Microkernel. NEXTSTEP was an implementation of BSD-Mach. The next direction for the OS was to free the operating system libraries from being tied to UNIX and becoming more device independent. So, NeXT completed an implementation of OpenStep for NEXTSTEP and called it OPENSTEP (note capitalisation). When NeXT was purchased by Apple when Apple were trying to save their flagging OS, OPENSTEP was reworked into Rhapsody, which was more or less OPENSTEP with the "Classic" Mac OS interface. Rhapsody later became Mac OS X. Just in case you were wondering. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by Zer0wnedOriginally posted by Tarale Yes, but you can't get Mac OS X on it. You can ONLY get Mac OS X on a Macintosh. So if you want to run OS X you need to buy a Macintosh. You might not want to run OS X, but some people buy Macintoshes purely for Mac OS X or another Macintosh-only piece of software. See what I'm trying to say about using the OS/software to sell the hardware? Originally posted by Zer0wned You cannot buy a Macintosh without Mac OS X. If you buy one right now, you will also get iLife '06 (iTunes, iPhoto, iDVD, iMovieHD, GarageBand, iWeb) a copy of Quicken 2006, Comic Life, and even some board games as well. You also get a trial of iWork. I never said you get all that "free" nor did I say that they don't make money on software sales. They do. I'm saying that the company's focus isn't to sell software -- their focus is to sell you hardware, using their software. OS X, iPhoto, iDVD, iMovie, Garageband, iWeb, Pages, Keynote, Apeture, Final Cut Pro -- one thing they all have in common is that you need a Macintosh to use them. If they absolutely were not concerned at all with using any of these products to sell their hardware -- if they wanted to be a software company like Adobe, or Microsoft -- wouldn't they make these programs and operating systems available on computers besides Macintoshes? Surely they could sell more copies of these products if they were open to the whole PC market, right? The only reason I can think that iTunes is available in Windows is because Apple want to sell the iPod and the iTMS. Originally posted by Zer0wned Sure, but I hear it's very buggy when you try to do it that way too. If you want to run it reliably, you still need a Macintosh. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by [GGS I think that stuff is Soothe-A-Caine by Banana Boat. It has lidocaine and menthol in it. I've had to use it a few times -- I do Surf Lifesaving in the summer, so I'm no stranger to sunburn, that stuff is good. The Lidocaine dulls the pain. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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| The specific reason I keep mentioning Apple being a Hardware company (ie, their aim is to sell hardware specifically not just software) is because that is why you won't see OS X on regular PC's. Putting OS X on regular PC's is incompatible with their business model.
Otherwise it doesn't really matter all that much. I'm just countering the Dvorak-like speculation here that "omg, Apple are making plans to release OS X for all computers, they want to challenge Microsoft directly". The switch to x86 from PowerPC is not an indicator that Apple are trying to position themselves to sell OS X for any PC. It was just the next step for the Macintosh series of computers, particularly as PowerPC was going nowhere. ||bass -- user experience is something that is hard to define, because it is a fairly personal thing. You mentioned your annoyance at having a Dock that magnifies when you hover over it with the mouse -- for some people that is helpful, for others it's annoying (and for your interest, by default it doesn't magnify -- somebody who uses that Macintosh turned that feature on). Apple would likely tell you that part of the user experience thing is that it "just works", which if I think about it is fairly vague too. Pretty much everything I've tried to do though on my Macintosh has "just worked" with minimal fuss from me though. I do find one aspect is user interface. Nothing is hidden away in a right click context menu on Mac OS X. And by hidden, I mean that you can only get to in that context menu. That's a good idea, that's good UI design -- because there are some people who don't use the right mouse button (a lot if my experience on help desk is an indicator, and some are even scared of it), and having things hidden away makes things harder for those people. Right mouse click menus are available, but instead of being the exclusive way to do something, they complement existing left click menus, providing faster ways to do things for "power users". Another UI thing I appreciate is that for the most part, all the applications -- be they from Apple or otherwise -- comply with certain UI guidelines. This means that there are some UI things you can always rely upon -- no matter what Application you are in, you can always close it by going up to the Menu Bar, selecting the name of the app and going to "Quit [whatever]". You can always find the Preferences in the same place too (where in Windows it can be under Tools, or Options or....even File or Edit?? ). Makes a new application less daunting to be able to rely on some familiarity every time. General consistency across the UI in a whole lot of other places too... there are lots of other UI things too, most of them are little things that I don't really think about in detail, but I find I appreciate when I'm on the Macintosh. Exposé for one. The fact that my Mac prompts me for a password before I do anything major. The security between users on the local machine -- unlike in Windows where logging in as one person you can still go to Documents and Settings and go through someone else's stuff... Just a whole lot of little bits and pieces. All these little things... consistency and attention to detail from Apple, I guess... overall mean I'm happier and more productive on my Macintosh. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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| ||Bass -- you seem to have gotten the idea for some reason that the lack of right-click-only context menus means that there's more stuff on the screen. That's not true. The stuff is hidden away in the Menu Bar -- a regular menu instead.
However, I wasn't making the point about the right click thing from a look-and-feel point of view. I was making it from a usability point of view. 
I right click a lot in Windows and on a Mac. Hell, I middle and side click and every other click in both. My experience of working on a Help Desk has given me the appreciation of the usability issue with right click context menus, not my own experience. And when it was discovered that if I Ctrl+Click (equivalent of right click on my iBook) enough it stirs up my RSI, it meant I could circumvent that RSI issue easily.  It's also good when you're eating with one hand... (I know I could attach a mouse to my laptop, but I seldom use it on a desk...)
And both my Mac and workstation are kept very uncluttered. I only have the Recycle Bin on my desktop in Windows, and I have my HDD on the desktop on the Mac. I don't have much in my Dock except for what I use regularly, the rest I use Quicksilver to access. That brings up another fun thing... between Spotlight, Quicksilver and Exposé, I can switch between and open applications and files so much faster in this OS 
As for the security issue, I don't really care that you can turn it on, I am annoyed that it's off by default. And that that default then stays on all manner of corporate machines... |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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| Depending on how you have Exposé set up, you can activate a number of different views allowing you to switch applications.
It can be set up with keyboard shortcuts, or with "hot corners" of the screen, or if you have a Mighty Mouse you can also set it up with specific mouseclicks. One view is where it shows all open applications on your screen... 
You can do the same thing with only the windows of one particular application. You can also have it so all the windows disappear so you can see and access your Desktop... 
Of course, you can always Cloverleaf-Tab like a Shift-Tab 
But that last one's not a feature of Exposé, and I find Exposé far better at finding me the actual window I want. And I have a lot of confidential stuff open at the moment, so you're only getting small gif files, for now to demonstrate
Exposé has been a feature of Mac OS X since October 2003. I've noted that Microsoft did something vaguely reminiscent of it at a Microsoft technical meeting / demo I went to showcasing Vista. (edited by Tarale on 08-19-06 02:39 AM) |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by ||bass Now that was completely uncalled for! Insulting the intelligence of Macintosh users isn't helpful. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by ||bassOriginally posted by TaraleUhhhhh.... I wasn't? Though you're definately tempting me to start. I'm reading that sentence over and over and the only thing I can say is that you have a very interesting system of logic because nowhere there is anything said to insult Mac users. Now that you've accused me of this though, I think I'm owed an explination as to how, under your system of logic, the idea that any moron could change his Windows setup to work just like all those Mac shortcuts you described as being insulting to Mac users.Originally posted by ||bassNow that was completely uncalled for! Insulting the intelligence of Macintosh users isn't helpful. I took your implied meaning to say that any "moron" should just do what you described in Windows rather than use the Macintosh -- and as an extension of that that maybe you feel the Macintosh users must be stupider (or maybe lazier) than those "morons" as they need their OS to do the work for them. Do we really need to bring IQ into an argument about computers anyway? As far as I can tell, it's not relevant and only serves to be insulting. I know plenty of very intelligent people who wouldn't be able to do as you described (at least without help). Does that mean they have an IQ of less than 12? No, it means that they've prioritised other things more highly than learning about computers. Perhaps I am a little touchy though considering that this is the second time a post has been made that insults users' intelligence. You were able to explain most of the first with some background information not given in the original post (although just by itself "it's not that hard" still implies a negative). At any rate, I'd prefer to see less commentary on people's intelligence. As for what you described, while I could install that at home, I cannot install it at work -- where it would be more useful. Besides, my main home PC is currently trying its hand at being a lump of Engrish and Useless ("the Bios are not be install. Check Device!!!") so until I can be bothered fixing it I doubt that install will work. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by ||bassI happen to disagree that all the people who call me are stupid. They are inexperienced, and computer illiterate, and some of them clearly wish to put absolutely zero effort into learning anything about computers or resolving their computer problem, but I'm pretty sure they're not "stupid". I also know that in my home life, when my de-facto step-father asks me for computing assistance it's not because he's stupid. In fact, he is one of the smartest people I know. He's just prioritised study/research on Health Sciences and Human Nutrition over learning computers. He might not know a whole lot about computers, but he knows a lot about Fish Oils, Dietary Fats and a whole lot of other health things. He knows enough computer stuff to get by with what he needs to do, most of the time, but as he wouldn't be able to install that thing you mentioned, he's apparently a "moron". Frankly I just get the impression that you seem to frown down upon those who do not prioritise a level of computer competency in their lives. I might deal with stupid questions pretty much every working day, but I certainly don't think that most of my callers are stupid. They have other skills and knowledge that they excel at, computers is just not one of them. This said, it reminds me that there is a level of "fear" about computers even amongst intelligent people. I've seen it recently amongst my colleagues. We have recently acquired an iMac at work, which I am responsible for the setup / maintenance / training / etc for, and I am quite horrified to see that many of my colleagues seem to be afraid to try to learn anything about the Macintosh, perhaps because it's unfamiliar or something. I've told them that it won't bite them and that they're unlikely to break it.... but thus far, only three of my colleagues have been willing to really have a look at the Macintosh (and one of them wants to spend all his time in the Terminal at a bash prompt rather than look at the stuff he'll need to support for end-users). I suspect many stupid questions we get from clients come out of fear (that they'll break something I guess) and a lack of confidence, rather than actual stupidity. Often I find that clients are capable, but need to be reassured. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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| I know that recently I keep hearing a push locally for bottled water to not be available in schools -- not even flavoured water, just bottled water.
The reason? It doesn't contain fluoride, so there is concern that people aren't getting enough of it for their teeth to stay healthy. I think though if schools do get rid of bottled water brands, they were offering filtered water, which has all the nasties of tap water taken out but the fluoride is still in. But yes, it's not uncommon for schools to remove / ban things for health reasons. Oh well, maybe a few years down the track when you haven't picked up bad habits from now, you'll be thankful. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by XkeeperOriginally posted by JDavis Yeah, nothing but layout threads and copy-and-paste pixeldramas (Sprite Comics). And not much art. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by JDavisOriginally posted by Tarale I'm happy for a thread to be made for a post layout if there really is a lot of effort and creativity put in, but if it's just one where somebody's taken somebody else's codebase and modified a picture and a colour.... it should go in this thread. It's hard to define at what point a post layout can become "art". Obviously code can be used to create art -- see the CSS Zen Garden for some stunning examples of this. But I think a lot of the more generic styled things perhaps don't warrant a whole thread. Your layout is one example of a great deal of effort and care put into a post layout, I would consider yours to be "art". I wish more people were to put as much care and thought into their layouts and then maybe this thread wouldn't exist at all. Setz -- the sql error ruins the effect It's looking good, although seems to be.. missing something. The skyline thing is cool... I like your clouds and moon(edited by Tarale on 08-20-06 10:57 PM) (edited by Tarale on 08-20-06 11:19 PM) |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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| Personally I don't think it's a bad idea to have some kind of a "wellness policy" in schools.
In an age where obesity in western civilisations is on the rise -- especially amongst young people -- we need to be making sure that kids are eating the right thing and learning healthy habits. Drinking soft drink on a regular basis is not a healthy thing, and I'm not convinced that "flavoured water" whatever that entails is necessarily all that good for you. Course, while I'd like to think that your school is doing this purely out of concern for students' health and wellbeing, they're probably really covering their arses from threats by angry parents and such. Really don't know what you're complaining about. It's not like you're not allowed these things outside of school, and I highly doubt they really are going to confiscate things you bring from home anyway -- again they'd be in shit from parents |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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| I don't have very many bookmarks at all. I usually just use the URL's in the address bar.
What bookmarks I do have are very limited. A short .htaccess page, a link to the SANS Internet Storm Centre, one for the TV Guide and one for the Public Transport timetables. At work they're all work related. Antivirus page, Intranet, Custom App Homepage, page about computer purchasing in my work, page about work internet, documentation and resource page... yawn. |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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I've seen the "how to ask a question the smart way" thing before, but frankly, nobody reads stickies and such around here so I wonder how helpful that kind of thing would be anyway.  |
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Tarale 2710 Affected by 'Princess Bitch-Face Syndrome' ++++!! Persona non grata Since: 11-17-05 From: Adelaide, Australia Last post: 6308 days Last view: 6308 days |
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Originally posted by Kyoufu Kawa I'm actually not good at linework on my graphics tablet either. What I find helps though is to put your original stuff on one layer and then trace over it on a new one, refining anything that needs refining in the process, but leaving the bits you like the same
But yes, I do agree about the significant and insignificant features part. Some parts are detailed in a minimalist way (I like the face) but other areas are a little lost in the sketchiness. |
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| I don't know what Tito's talking about with gloves, but the red hat does give it a pokemon effect; somewhat because of the shape of the hat...
I like the shading |
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Originally posted by Zer0wned Hey hey... a lot of good things can be very tasty The weather was delightful on the weekend, so we had a barbecue. And we ate some very tasty, and very healthy salad (with dressing optional to un-healthy it... I didn't have any dressing), fresh fruit, grainy bread, etc. The meat was grilled so it has less fat too, and I didn't eat a whole heap of meat, I ate more salad and fruit.
Enjoying food doesn't always lead to negative results either. I enjoy grainy breads, it doesn't lead to a negative -- the energy you get from grainier breads lasts longer and it's full of fibre and other good stuff. I adore atlantic salmon when I get the chance to eat it, and it's one of the richest source of Omega-3 fatty acids there is, which are excellent for your heart, and also your brain
But you're right that a lot of takeaway / prepackaged / portable foods aren't healthy. And a lot of what you can buy for lunches near where I work isn't either, although I've noticed a few flashy (and expensive) places popping up specialising in vegetarian, low-GI and healthy lunches. | ||||
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