Originally posted by Alastor

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emcee: That is so flagrantly disregarding my point I'm not even going to try to refute.

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Originally posted by Alastor

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Not just the old testament. Much of what comes after the first parts of the new testament, which was generally later writings tacked on. Lol, revelations. And yeah, some of the stuff that's true has stuff that's not true in it, because that is the nature of how stories go. People just want to make them better, but that doesn't mean that the core beliefs are wrong and that doesn't mean that the underlying principles that wise men have taught are wrong.

Scientology, on the other hand, has numerous obvious faults that were there from the very start, as can be empirically proven because we know the early texts and it hasn't even had a century.

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Originally posted by Silvershield

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[Of course, but does that mean that the mores of modern Western society are governed directly and solely by ancient evolutionary instincts?

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Originally posted by Alastor

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Arwon hasn't read past the first few posts and can be ignored.

emcee, you do not seem to appreciate the fine distinction between cannot be proven correct and can be proven incorrect. What I said was but an example. Research Scientology's text and tell me it's not absolutely riddled with holes.

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Originally posted by Alastor

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Personally, I don't care what a vast majority of christians believe, because a vast majority of people I do not take as intellectual equals. You are consistently misrepresenting my words - I am saying that at its very core, Christianity is not wrong, while at its very core, Scientology is wrong. It has nothing to do with selective belief, I merely reference the most sweeping beliefs and moral standards present in just about all variations of the faith.

God created all. God's son, Jesus, or however you want to render His name, lived as a human and was a good man who performed miracles, or at the very least what have been interpreted as such. He was a good person, and He said that if people simply preached peace, did nothing to people they wouldn't want done to them, and treated others as they would tread themselves, then everything in the world would be fine.

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Originally posted by "Alastor"

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We have no proof that any of it is false, nor that any of it is true (save that Jesus existed, from which it can generally be assumed that he did preach this), but the same cannot be said of the core values of Scientology. Their text goes into specifics about things that cannot be. Perhaps my example was not the best example, but come on. Equating Scientology to Christianity is a patently ridiculous notion.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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This thread:
1. Opening post with various flaws, starts discussion.
2. Opening firing points.
3. Minor debate over semantics between two kids on a message board.
4. Arwon makes a post relating to the nature of the anti-Catholic world due to a fuck-up in wording of Alastors that he does not have adequate ability to address.
5. Alastor notes that he shot himself in the foot. Whines like two year old about ignoring other peoples pertinant, and more proper posts.
6. Another minor deabte about semantics.
7. More of Alastors whining and incitement (had he been anyone else, he'd have been banned )
8. A bunch of mumbo-jumbo.
9. Back to semantics.

Wow! This thread accurately reflects the effective flow of religious doctrinary dialogue! Opa!

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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Bah! Differentiating between the two is just more semantics!

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Originally posted by Alastor

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Originally posted by emcee

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stuff

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...other stuff

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Originally posted by asdf

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Bah, I suppose it's true: you need a gimmick to be well-known/widely-recognized on a message board. Not like I'm complaining or anything: being normal is a good thing.

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Originally posted by Tommathy

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On a tangential note, has anyone had the experience where you see or encounter someone so hideously un-attractive that you can't help but imagine yourself in a sexual situation with them?

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Originally posted by Zidane

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Nintendo hasn't been the greatest at attracting third party developers, though. While there are some good games by other companies, the most notable games tend to be by Nintendo themselves.

You are right. It is the software that matters, and companies are smart. They know that people love realism, which is why games like Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, which requires a pretty high end computer to run, exist.

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