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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 05:22 PM, in Gay Fairy Tale... Link
I won't go off on my own tagent because Skydude is pretty much approximating how I feel about this. It's not a matter of being pro- or anti-gay, it's a matter of morality being taught to young children in schools. To address your question directly: no, teachers should not read "whatever they want" to their grammar school-age students. Especially if the content they propose to use has material that some parents might find objective.
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Posted on 04-26-06 05:42 PM, in Gay Fairy Tale... Link
Originally posted by max
well if only straight love stories are being read in school, then morality is being taught. only showing one side of something is a very strong bias.
No, because heterosexuality is the "norm" and, as such, acts as a sort of control group. It describes the overwhelming majority of America's population and, even so, appears as a neutral rather than an influence in one direction or the other. However, since the homosexual issue has yet to be settled here in America, it is still politically charged (as was pointed out earlier) and so it carries with it the sense of a teacher imposing a political or moral standard on his students.
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Posted on 04-26-06 07:31 PM, in Gay Fairy Tale... Link
And, for the record, these kids are in third grade. They are seven years old. If you want to push your political views on your students, at least let them grow to a less impressionable age. That is one of my bigger gripes with this whole issue.
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 07:36 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
I'm not going to "guess" anymore. By her own admission (though with more specific terminology), she is a person of ambiguous gender. Also in her own words, she is attracted to people of either gender. So, she is a person of amibiguous gender who is bisexual.

I'm not about to submit and think up some ludicrous politically correct phrase to describe it. That is in no way an attack on Kasumi or the gay community; if she or anyone else takes offense to it, it is because that person would rather place a happy-friendly-rainbows and butterflies label on everything in this country, instead of the more practical solution of having people grow thicker skins.
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 07:40 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
Are you familiar with the idiom "thick skin?"
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 07:57 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
That sort of insulting remark is hardly befitting a moderator. At least my biting little comment had some reasonable basis.
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Posted on 04-26-06 08:00 PM, in asian with a teddy bear Link
Traumatic in a "I knew exactly what to expect, and I did it to myself" kind of way .

Strangely reminiscent of that typical locker room situation where a guy says "Hey, look over here" and, although you know his package will be exposed and in full sight, you look anyway.

And I am now thoroughly embarassed after sharing that last story...

Edit for a missing word.


(edited by Silvershield on 04-26-06 07:01 PM)
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 08:04 PM, in The death penalty and injustices... Link
I'll expand on Ziff's post - which appeared in his typical style of inserting an obscure phrase without any detail to back it up, all in the aim of looking knowledgable or insightful - by at least providing a link explaining Pascal's Wager.
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 08:05 PM, in asian with a teddy bear Link
Originally posted by Vyper
As they say, curiosity killed the cat.
Or, in this case, my retinas.
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Posted on 04-26-06 08:21 PM, in The death penalty and injustices... Link
Originally posted by ||bass
Oh yes, let's give hit men and drug dealers talk therapy with no threat of prison. That'l solve the crime problem.... right....
The happy medium is probably some combination of a physically confined space - that is, a jail in some sense - but with less of a brute force approach to rehabilitation. As it is, the system seems to be one of "go to jail, come out in x years, that's it." A significant psychotherapeutic component needs to be thrown in the middle, somewhere in beween "go to jail" and "get out of jail." Heh heh.
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Posted on 04-26-06 08:25 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
I need to clarify that I in no way advocate any sort of bigotry, and that I am all for a person's freedom to express his or her own sexuality, regardless of the nature or orientation of it. But, labels like hetero-, homo-, and bisexual serve a legitimate purpose, and they are quite useful. People shouldn't think that, since they are being labeled as one of those three things, it means the person who's done the labeling is somehow trying to supress one's right to free practice of any sort of sexuality that appeals to one. I'm not spouting any sort of anti-gay nonsense, and it's irresponsible to make it out as if I am.
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Posted on 04-26-06 08:28 PM, in The death penalty and injustices... Link
Well, many people in the field of psychology have a very strong association with a particular school of thought, and are loathe to give it up. (I know that even a friend and I, who are hardly professionals, consistently argue about the validity of Freud's theories.) I don't know what more to say about that.
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Posted on 04-26-06 08:46 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
I'm just covering all angles, because I know I'll be called a bigot in some context at some point in the future.
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 09:11 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
First of all, I'm not sure which occasion you're referring to when you say you've proven me wrong on "factual grounds" in some argument.

Secondly, why does disgust with our modern society's tendency towards a ridiculous degree of political correctness constitute homophobia?
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Posted on 04-26-06 09:33 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
Trunxy: I'm attacking him tit-for-tat for his attacks on me. Plain and simple. Not the best plan, I'll admit and hardly all that mature. But until SS cuts me some slack I'll give him none.
My "attacks on you" are not the baseless, random insults ("Are you familiar with the song 'If I Only Had a Brain...?'") that you throw at me. I react offensively when you've given me reason to, not because I enjoy inciting a moderator.

Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
However, when something can be classed into definitive terms where the terms are properly defined as is...Then do so. I don't want to talk about Kas too much, but I believe that she is open with this by now and if you've been around for a while you probably know. Kas is a transsexual. She has had her sex changed to match who she is. That is far different than gender ambiguous. Perhaps this is the sort of habit that you pick up when you work in this field.
Ok, she's transsexual. That makes the job of classifying her preference even eaiser: she is a bisexual transsexual.

Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
I'm not going to attack you for being a homophobe.
Which is appropriate, because I'm not a homophobe.

Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
I don't agree with a position like that - I find it disgusting and repulsive - and I will argue it. Positions like that lead to ambivalence and ignorance of the truth. When that happens, slipper slope here, bad things happen. Look at Jamaica right now. The ignorance and lack of acceptance towards gays is deadly, literally. Even in many places in the United States people are attacked for BEING HOMOSEXUAL. That's just wrong, no matter what way you slice it. For years they've been maligned, thrown in prison for being in love with someone else, been persecuted and feared, and most dangerously they were ignored and overlooked during the AIDS epidemic after being declared the scape goat.
Full agreement there.

Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
I have agreed with you in the past that a lot of things in modern society have gone way too far. However, your posts with regards to homosexuality is that you do not tolerate it. In fact, given some of your posts in other topics you're down right afraid and disgusted of other male forms. That would constitute homophobia.
Would you like to point out a single instance in which anything I've said can justify this accusation? What the hell are you talking about?

Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
But accepting and tolerating people because of what they are isn't political correctness - it's accepting and tolerating them. But I could go on for hours.
I accept and tolerate everyone. Being a huge fan of the actions those people commit is a different story, but that doesn't stop me from affording any person with an "alternative lifestyle" the same respect and dignified treatment that I'd give to anybody else.
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 09:37 PM, in Ballot Tampering Link
...yeah, it doesn't really suit my taste that Clinton was censured when his only crime, effectively, was cheating on his wife. That's a terrible thing to do, sure, but it doesn't justify any sort of action taken on his political or occupational life.
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Posted on 04-26-06 09:43 PM, in Ballot Tampering Link
I know, but why should his personal sexual relations be an appropriate topic for him to be questioned about under oath?
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Posted on 04-26-06 09:46 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
Well, if he honestly doesn't find himself to a homophobe I may have to reevaulate my position.
Don't make it out to sound like I'm in denial or something. I would hardly consider myself homophobic, that's for sure, but I also fail to see any words of mine that would give that impression in the first place.

Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
And perhaps you should've analyzed my post that ya quoted a lil' better.
Elaborate?
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Posted on 04-26-06 09:57 PM, in Sexual orientation. What a load of bull. Link
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
That statement was in reference to a quoted point in my post. What I was talking about was your reference to political correctness and said that accepting people and tolerating them wasn't part of political correctness. Most right-wingers/conservatives will decry those that attack homophobia or racism as being too PC, or something along those lines. I made that statement to insure that no one was going to begin the "YOU'RE PC...No, YOU'RE PC" game.
Being PC doesn't mean being tolerant, it means using stupid, sterile language to describe something that can be described more bluntly. Describing something bluntly isn't always meant to offend the person being described, it's sometimes just because a person doesn't feel like doing verbal acrobatics to express a simple idea. When I call somebody black, it's not intended to offend them; it's simply easier than using that useless phrase "African-American."

Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
Alright, now let me see this mentality in future posts so that I'll have the ability to reevaluate my said position.
No need, because you can already see it in any of my past posts.
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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-26-06 09:59 PM, in Ballot Tampering Link
I kinda meant it as a real question...on what grounds was information regarding his extramarital affair brought into a court of law?
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