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Since: 11-19-05
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Posted on 04-30-06 03:10 PM, in Christianity, abortion, and the idea of punishment for sex Link
Originally posted by Arwon
I'm arguing that the emotional/intuitive response is entirely valid, and using it to illustrate that the value isn't equal. Emotions, gut instincts, feelings, these things count. As it gets more baby-like, for most of us, it gets more valuable, and that's how it should be.
In a discussion that can be argued purely through non-emotional rhetoric, emotion has no valid place. If I were to state that the zygote has a soul, and thus it's worth preserving, that argument is emotion-based, cannot be proven, and has no place in a thread that's devoted to an actual back-and-forth discussion.
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Posted on 05-01-06 07:30 PM, in The (un)official "Holy crap, AP testing!" chat thread discussion... Link
Yeah, got the finals deal coming up all next week. Off on Monday, then an easy one on Tuesday, two easy and one harder one on Wednesday, and a paper due Thursday.

Took American History and Spanish as a junior and English and European History as a senior and, let me tell ya, those tests are not an experience that I miss. Absolute tedium.
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Posted on 05-01-06 07:36 PM, in pc rpgs? Link
Originally posted by Metal Knuckles
Betrayal and Return at/to Krondor. Two of the best damn games I played back in the day. Besides the fact that they're based off of some of the best books ever written by Raymond Feist, they have some awsome gameplay, and I believe that Betrayal at Krondor was rated as a top RPG one year by some magazine or another. I'm not sure if they run on anything higher then 95 or 98, but I don't doubt that there is a patch out somewhere for both.

As a matter of fact, I believe that Sierra has given Betrayal at Krondor out for free on the interweb. Try googling it.
Wow, I've never met anyone who's so much as heard of Return to Krondor. Betrayal would never run on my computer, but I spent hours playing its sequel. Of course, those hours were spent over the course of several runs through the game, because it is just so damn short...
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Posted on 05-02-06 10:01 PM, in The (un)official "Holy crap, AP testing!" chat thread discussion... Link
I'm lucky that I've been exempted from my school's required history core classes thanks to my grades on each of those history tests I took. My Spanish grade wasn't high enough to get me any credit. My English score is a different story; it got me a solid six credits but, since English is also my major here at school, it didn't exempt me from any classes but only gave me elective credit. Which is kind of a bummer, but oh well.
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Posted on 05-02-06 10:06 PM, in will you loove me? will you love me forevaaaaa?! Link
Originally posted by Snow Tomato
There can be that fuzzy inbetween in a relationship.. when you first start hooking up or whatever..
Yeah, I dunno about you but, in my experience, most quality relationships don't begin with the people involved "hooking up." But that's neither here nor there.

For many guys of type "x" - for the sake of the discussion, the kind of guy who's with a new girl every week and is reputed for his promiscuity - if he's genuinely interested in you for your nonphysical attributes then you know you've got him. That is, he'll not make any advances in an attempt to kiss or be otherwise physical too early in the relationship. That's a rarity, though, both because such guys usually don't change their stripes until later in life (if at all), and because they're often quite the charmers who may appear to be after you with pure intent but, in reality, you're just another notch on their bedposts.

Type "y" guys - again, an alphabetic distinction just for the sake of simplicity, and referring to a shyer introvert - are sometimes less obvious in their advances. I'd set myself in this category and, in my own experience of observing my behavior around a girl I've got a crush on, I'll tend to pay less attention to her, and be more shy around her, than around anybody else.

Edit because, of course, a double negative equals a positive...


(edited by Silvershield on 05-03-06 03:26 AM)
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Posted on 05-03-06 01:25 AM, in The (un)official "Holy crap, AP testing!" chat thread discussion... Link
Originally posted by Colin
...You know, given how I got a 98 in my last term of college English, I probably could tackle AP English without any problems. At least a 4 if not a 5.
That's what you would think, until you encounter the AP council's asinine perception of interpreting literature. I would never have been able to get a 5 on the test if, over the course of the year, the teacher didn't drag me, kicking and screaming, to the "right" way of reading practice passages and answering the accompanying questions. That test is very particular in how you're supposed to read and interpret things.
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Posted on 05-03-06 01:36 AM, in will you loove me? will you love me forevaaaaa?! Link
Originally posted by Skydude
I mostly agree with you on SS, but I think this is one of the occasions where relativism may in fact come into play, as it's not necessarily a discussion of right or wrong. What I mean by this is that if the "hooking up" as the norm is deeply entrenched enough, then even the "nice guys" who really do genuinely care a lot about a girl may do that relatively early on.
I don't think hooking up is by any means "wrong." I don't do it, myself - I'm completely turned off of the idea of any sort of physical intimacy with a girl who I don't even know or with whom I am, at most, barely familiar with - but it is very much a norm and so it may be a bit imprudent of me to make the sweeping generalization that a hook up does not yield a lasting relationship. Simply from what I've seen though, both at home and here at school, any two people who start off with a hook up and then progress to a less physical, more emotional relationship still retain a very strongly physical aspect. To put it simply, they often base their relationship significantly around sex. Hey, that's what kids want to do at this age, but no healthy bond is going to be centered around getting laid every night.

Originally posted by Skydude
Beyond that, well, there's not much you can really do. Asking would be the ideal solution except that, from what I've seen, shallow assholes can certainly pretend to be "nice guys" for quite some time...which is where you get the girls crying "but he used to be such a good boyfriend!" when, in fact, they're just finally seeing the guy as he actually is.
To any girl: the worst and most pitiable thing you can do when dating a guy is believe that he really is as good as he seems. You'll get thrown for a loop every time, and the right way to avoid it is to expect it. When a good guy finally comes along, it will be a pleasant surprise and he won't hold it against you for not always giving him the benefit of the doubt. Not to generalize my own sex but, as teenagers and in the early twenties, many many guys are really quite digusting. The ones with the good hearts aren't usually the ones with good looks and charm.
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Posted on 05-03-06 04:08 AM, in The (un)official "Holy crap, AP testing!" chat thread discussion... Link
I was referring strictly to the multiple choice. The essays are another matter - I've heard samples of high-scoring essays that are absolutely outrageous in content but that were defended by textual evidence. On the other hand, the multiple choice questions have only a single correct answer and, in my experience, the "right" one is, to some extent, a matter of perception.
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Posted on 05-08-06 01:56 PM, in Gay Fairy Tale... Link
Originally posted by Snow Tomato
Morales aren't taught to you.. no matter how much parents, teachers, government officials or preachers want you to think. I don't have the same morales as my parents, or any of my teachers... I have my own. You go out into the world and you experience shit.. and you make your OWN judgements. My parents always told me "don't drink" "don't smoke" "don't have sex".. all that stuff.. they tried hard to teach me what to not do. But no sane child listens. Around the age of like 15 16 or so.. people get curious and decide they want to experience things for themselves and make their own judgements. So, as a rule.. I think one should be exposed to EVERYTHING. My parents censored nothing for me as a child. I was able to watch whatever movies, shows or anything that I wanted. I was allowed to listen to Eminem uncensored back in like 5th grade. Did it have an amazing profound effect on me that damaged my whole life? No.. it didn't. I like to have fun just like the rest of us on planet earth... but that does not make me morale-less.
I disagree. Most adolescents are going to have that phase of rebellion and experimentation, but once you've grown older you'll start to realize how cloesly your own concept of morality matches that of your parents, caregivers, mentors, etc. That's not to say that you'll necessarily share their religious beliefs, or that you'll identically mirror their worldviews, but the influence is unavoidable.

And really, I can't bring myself to agreement with your opinion that a parent has no right censoring his child's environment. There's a middle ground between a strict authoritarian parent and an absolutely lenient one and, just as it's not ideal to control your child excessively, so is it counterproductive to set no limits for him whatsoever. As I said, certainly a teenager is inclined to lash out and rebel at some point in his development, but to be a parent at either extreme end of the spectrum will only make the situation worse: a strictly-raised teen will try to spite his parents and at the same time experiment with all manner of things that he's known to be "taboo," while a teen whose parents were absent, either literally or effectively, will have no concept of limits in the first place. There is something to be gained from experiencing the world on your own, but you make it sound like it's a good thing for every child to be allowed to go out there and get pregnant, arrested, alcohol poisoned, drug overdosed, etc, all in the name of "having one's own experiences." Seeing the world for yourself does not mean damaging your own body and mind in the process; not to sound condescending but, as you grow older, you may wish you lived your teenage years differently.
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Posted on 05-08-06 04:13 PM, in Gay Fairy Tale... Link
Originally posted by Snow Tomato
You may not agree with that...but it's what I feel.. and it's come from what I've experienced.
Again, not to sound condescending, but my knowledge of your exploits leads me to place you firmly in the "teenage rebellion" stage. You'll mature a bit, and your point of view will more than likely shift.

Originally posted by Snow Tomato
And can you honestly say that some kid is going to turn out to be homosexual because he heard a fairy tale in like 3rd grade? It's not bead for people to be exposed to different points of veiw.
I said nothing of the sort. Whether homosexuality is inherited or learned, I cannot say; however, regarding morals in general, it is the sole realm and responsibility of a child's parents or guardians to instill a sense of "right" behavior in that child. Schools are to educate the populace regarding secular matters, while morals - a concern irrevocably tied to religion or at least some sense of higher responsibility - has no place in a public school. Whether or not you or I think sexual orientation is a matter of morality is irrelevant; what matters is that the parents of a seven-year-old kid might think it is and, whether they're right or wrong, it's their privilege to make that call. Just like I have no right to discuss religion in any official capacity as a second grade teacher, so do I not have the right to discuss a hot-button issue like gay marriage.
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Posted on 05-08-06 04:18 PM, in Canon Catholicism or Cracked-out Cleric? Link
Without commenting on whether or not the priest was justified in his request, I will openly wonder what the woman's thought process was. Surely, with such an enormous prize, is $5000 much more than a token gesture (as has been pointed out)? Is it so she can say that she's donated to the church, and nothing more? Any parish would love a sudden $5000 increase to their funds but, in some sense, such a relatively small sum is a bit of a slap in the face, I think.
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Posted on 05-08-06 04:21 PM, in will you loove me? will you love me forevaaaaa?! Link
Originally posted by Snow Tomato
Well I know he's interested by this point but I can't tell if he just wants ass or actually likes me.
Then do it the old-fashioned way: don't give him your body until he demonstrates a legitimate interest in your mind. You'll never know if a guy wants you for you or for sex if you give him sex right off the bat - make him prove his intentions before you take it any further.
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Posted on 05-08-06 04:25 PM, in Little inscriptions under your name Link
Originally posted by Tarale
I certainly don't wish to be in a forum swimming with spam just so people can get Custom Titles and whatnot.
*cough*CrazinessDomain*cough*LostThreads*cough cough cough*

C'mon, you've been around the block a few times, you know how blatantly pointless most of the discussion - if it can be called that - actually is in those two forums (and often elsewhere, too. See the various stickied threads in Anya's Corner, for example...)

In any case, I wonder why I'm not allowed a custom title. I've had one in previous incarnations of the board by slowly but surely achieving the requisite post count; but, in my personal crusade to avoid any post that even resembles spam, I'll never reach that point again .
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Posted on 05-08-06 11:03 PM, in Gay Fairy Tale... Link
Originally posted by Young Guru
I'd beg to differ that schools are not responsible for teaching some form of morals. Schools do plenty to teach kids not to steal, not to swear, not to cut in line, and other such good things. I would consider these morals of some sort and it is the schools responsibility to teach children this.
Find me a parent who's against his children learning not to steal, swear, and cut in line, and the analogy will be valid.

Originally posted by Young Guru
The system of laws and regulartions, in any society, is based on morals, and schools are the prime place to educate children in these rules.
Also, I do think that reading the fairy tale is not expressly teaching the morality of homosexuality to the children, it is just exposing them to a reality of their society, especially considering that they live in the only (correct me if I'm wrong) place in the US that has legalized same sex marriage. Fairy tales say nothing to weather or not the action is right or wrong, just that the action is taken, and therefore parents need to chill out and not shelter their kids from reality, especially a reality that is not evil.
The base of the matter is, whether the reality they are being faced with is at all morally questionable, the last call still remains with the parents. Plain and simple. Guardianship allows certain control over how a parent raises his child and, if that parent does not like his child being taught about homosexuality, then a school has no right to step in and say otherwise. You and I both know that there's nothing inherently wrong with homosexuality as a sexual orientation or a lifestyle, but if a certain parent thinks otherwise then he is owed the opportunity to shelter his child from that reality. Right, wrong, or indifferent, it doesn't matter: the crux of the issue is that a school went behind parents' backs to provide certain educational content to young children.

Edit because I somehow mixed up two idioms .


(edited by Silvershield on 05-09-06 02:34 AM)
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Posted on 05-08-06 11:30 PM, in Prom problems...well not really. Link
Or, if you're like I was as a senior in high school and you don't have many female friends to speak of, go solo. I went with my then-girlfriend but, if not for her, I would've gone alone. (Well, I more likely wouldn't have gone at all, but several guys in my class went alone and had a blast hanging with their friends). There's no shame in going without a date, and you might even have better memories that way; without going into detail, though I had a fairly enjoyable senior prom, the events following it regarding my girlfriend colored it such that I'd rather not think about it much...

But seriously, if you can't find a girl, that shouldn't stop you from going. You might otherwise look back and think of what you've missed.
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Posted on 05-08-06 11:34 PM, in Prom problems...well not really. Link
Originally posted by Cruel Justice
You say "I" way too much buddy...
Most first-person accounts include the word "I," buddy...
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Posted on 05-09-06 03:38 AM, in The girl and the emptiness Link
You're only 15. I went through a shockingly similar experience at that age and, while I regret painting myself as some sort of wizened elder, I really do just have to advise you to get over it. It hurts, yeah. It really hurts, and it really sucks. And, if someone came up to me and told me to get over it, I would've been terribly angry. But, if you can muster the strength to just look past your current emotions and understand that you'll heal within two, maybe three weeks from now, you'll see that it's not really a big deal. That's not what you want to hear - hell, it's definitely not what I wanted to hear when I was 15 and I was beating myself up over a girl - but it's reality.
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Posted on 05-09-06 03:42 AM, in Holographics are in HOUSE! Link
What does this mean for hardware? Can I anticipate, sometime in the near future, an affordable and practical internal hard drive with a capacity measured in multiple hundred gigabytes (or even in terabytes)?
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Posted on 05-09-06 07:03 AM, in The girl and the emptiness Link
Originally posted by Tarale
It's one thing to say "get over it", but really there's no easy way to just "get over" something.
Absolutely. When I found myself in similar straits, the consensus among my friends was that I should simply put it behind me, but it's not easy. To be honest, I just sulked around the house for a few days. And, I'm still alive today, so it must've worked .

Edit because straights does not equal straits.


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Posted on 05-09-06 05:01 PM, in Gay Fairy Tale... Link
Originally posted by Dracoon
So, you think that the parents should have the ultimate choice in what the kid learns then?

That's kind of short sighted. You might be helping the parent, but you could be destroying the child.If a parent is racist and doesn't allow for their kid to be taught anything that expresses that racism is bad, you just allowed a racist child to grow up without anything to tell them that's wrong.

It's the same thing here.
And who's to decide whether a particular parent's values are good enough to be passed on to his children? Should he only be allowed to teach his child morality that you find tasteful, or that adheres to your sense of right and wrong?

We both lose out here, Dracoon. I'd love it if every parent brought his child up with a strong basis in Christian-inspired values - not necessarily in the Christian religion, mind you, but with a sense of what is ultimately Good according to a Judeo-Christian sensibility. You'd prefer that every child is brought up according to your hippy liberal agenda. (I'm being sarcastic, so don't jump down my throat.) Just as it is both impossible and simply wrong for me to make the call concerning what a proper education would entail, so is it wrong for anyone left of center to make that same decision. The best we can do is leave the school as a place of purely objective learning, and hope that a child grows up with enough sense to see past any racist or otherwise irrational beliefs that might have been instilling in him by his parents.

You honestly can't contend that certain values - the nature of human life, for example, as it relates to abortion, or the idea of abstinence from pre-marital sex - are necessarily wrong, but that they are simply different from your own opinion. And I don't suppose it's really fair that your stance on abortion, or your stance on pre-marital sex, should be taught to my children.

Edit:
Originally posted by Grey
You know, the idea of foisting morals, as Sky says, onto children could be very easily avoided if the teacher read an equal representation of all forms of marital status in fairy tale form. Gay AND straight tales. Then it's politically motivated, but in a way that presents both situations equally, allowing the child to make their own judgement about the situations...
As I've said, my major gripe with this whole story is simply the age of the children. Homosexuality should hardly be excluded from schools that serve older kids, but for second graders it's just another unnecessary confusion. Keep it simple, and let the children choose for themselves once they're actually capable of doing so.


(edited by Silvershield on 05-09-06 04:03 PM)
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