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Posted on 07-17-06 12:57 PM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
For a humorous comparison in regards to the whole Kefka vs Sephiroth talk ...

Look at Sephiroth's angel form (final form), then look at Kefka's.

...

Anyways, I never really enjoyed FF1 myself. I didn't mine the somewhat 'upgraded' remakes, but whenever I tried to go back and play the original on the NES it was just way too clunky and slow for me. I'm sure if I would have played it back during that time I would have liked it, but oh well. I can say the same for some of the older Dragon Quest games. I wasn't introduced to RPG's until the SNES era, with Super Mario RPG. Hell yeah.

I still say Suikoden II's Luca Blight was the most insane villian in any RPG out there, far beyond Kefka.

Sephiroth was not very compelling at all. It almost seemed as if he just turned sides when he read some books. Egh, I just overall can't stand any of the FFVII characters at all. The one character I thought that was most interesting, was truth be told ... Barrett. I don't know what it was about him, but he was actually interesting at times. At least during the beginning of the game.

Despite FFVI easily being my favorite, I have to agree with others about the game going a little downhill when you reach the WoR. You just basically got slapped there, and really didn't have much to do ... except gather everyone up again, and go fight Kefka. I just try to look at that part of the game as one chapter, but blah.

Its interesting to see this topic go on and on, and most people tend to bring up only FFVI and FFVII.

Rydain: I thought of the GBA remake of FF1 no different than the PSX remake. It just ran faster. The gameplay was changed just slightly, making it even faster and easier. I honestly did not care for the extra dungeons at all. If you are interested in dungeon crawling for hours upon end, doing them for ... really nothing but an item or so, then you might like it. I just thought they got annoying.

The GBA version of FFII however, I thought was pretty fun.


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Posted on 07-17-06 01:59 PM, in Looking for other good villians Link
I always thought Fou-Lu was pretty cool in Breath of Fire IV. I loved how Capcom worked with him, letting -you- control him at times and see things his ways. I also thought the part where you were at the village with him (some girl rescued him maybe? Its been years ...) somewhat showed a good example of "There really isn't a good or evil, just different ideals on how things should be done" ... if that makes sense?

Other than that, nobody with strong development really comes to mind. I'd again say Luca Blight, but there isn't really a complex character there. He was just insane.
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Posted on 07-17-06 06:16 PM, in The sheer awesomeness of '80s movies Link
Originally posted by Dude Man
I recently got a hold of "John Carpenter's The Thing" from 1982. Man, watching a guy get his arms bit off by a giant beautifully designed stomach mouth makes me wish I was there to see the movie in theaters.

"I know you boys have been through alot... but when you find the time, I'd rather not spend the next few months TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!!"

classic.


Definitely one Kurt Russell movie I need to see still.

Which reminds me, anyone ever seen the Escape movies? I only saw Escape from New York. It was quite different, but cool at the same time. It gave off that futuristic cyber punk feel that Blade Runner, Total Recall (which I'd also say was a great movie ...), and Terminator gave off.

Its also almost humorous just how much Kurt Russell's Snake Pliskin inspired the Solid Snake we see in the Metal Gear games. The way he talks, everything is there. Its pretty awesome.
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Posted on 07-17-06 06:23 PM, in Looking for other good villians Link
I'd have to agree about Lavos. I mean its been forever since I played both Trigger and Cross, but who even sent Lavos? It was just like, he was sent to bring about some apochlypse to that world within time.

Magus seemed to have more plot and development, even if he ended up joining you. At first he really seemed like the main villian, and he had a goal he set for. But now that I think about it, I can't remember if there was any past development with him either.
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Posted on 07-17-06 06:31 PM, in Looking for other good villians Link
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
God, this is a hard one.

I sorta liked that guy from the first Lunar, I forget his name. He wasn't just crazy, he had some social-political motive.

Spoiler:
He wanted to brink back the goddess in order for her to rule over the people with her divine wisdom/power, giving them "guidance" and all and destroying those who didn't cooperate.

Of course, they sorta ruined him at the VERY end of the game, by having him act out of character... He talks like a stereotypical "evil villian" instead of the character that they had built up over the course of the game.



I know exactly who you're talking about but also can't think of his name for the life of me ...

I didn't like how he turned out in 2. He was controlled, and almost seemed worthless.

Also folks, how about Dr. Wily!?

...

But really, Vile was a pretty cool villian in the Megaman games.
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Posted on 07-18-06 01:44 AM, in Looking for other good villians Link
Originally posted by Celice
You want a villian that makes no sense, look at ExDeath from FFV. I think EVERYONE's bette than that crap from the hat.


Honestly, I thought the entire cast of characters and the plot itself in FFV was so goofy ... it was funny. Still a somewhat decent game though.

Originally posted by Amanda
Luca's mom was assaulted and raped, and his father ran away. Luca eludes to this slightly when later on in the game.


I forgot about this, but this is true. I remember someone mentioning this in the game.

Anyways, after giving a little more thought into this, Albedo came to my mind from the Xenosaga games. Say what you will about those games (I honestly thought the first one was pretty great), Albedo does have a good chunk of development. Largely thanks to the flashbacks in Episode II revolved around him, Jr, and that other guy. He had that Kefka-like persona also, but a lot more development. Those parts in Episode II were definitely the most interesting, aside from that ... Episode II was just very lacking in my opinion.
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Posted on 07-18-06 01:56 AM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
Although, being an OCD-ish teenager, I did all the optional dungeons anyways. Don't ask me why I had to get Tellah his best move even though I never used him. I HAD to. Fucking FF.


I get like this also with many RPG's, not surprisingly most of the FF's.

Final Fantasy VII, I just basically maxed everyone out and had tons of broken off Materia's. Had a Gold Chocobo, and basically everything you could do.

Final Fantasy VIII, I spent enough time to gather up enough magic to junction to my characters to make them absorb 100% of every element in the game.

Final Fantasy IX ... alright, didn't do much for this. I beat that orb enemy that was really hard I guess (can't remember the name), and successfully got every card possible. Other than that, this game actually took effort into leveling unlike VII and VIII and I never managed to max out all of my characters.

I've done about everything possible on my SNES FFVI. I spent enough time to max out a few select characters, Edgar, Celes, Shadow, and maybe a few others (very easy thanks to dinosaurs ... and yes, maybe I used the X-Zone trick ... sue me!). I was also picky about getting the infamous Speed +1 boost with Odin attached when I leveled my characters, so they were insanely fast. Most of them had over 70 Speed.

I just enjoy trying to max out some characters and stuff when it comes to finishing RPG's. Even if it really isn't totally needed to finish the game, its kind of something to do.
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Posted on 07-18-06 09:07 PM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
Originally posted by drjayphd
On FF1: I forget if the guy who argued this is still here, but I guess the attacking of dead enemies is supposed to be realistic. You know, you're giving the orders and then they act simultaneously. Only the last time I checked, if you were actually in such a fight, you, personally, wouldn't attack something that's already dead, yes?

FF6: That was just their way of providing a nice, non-linear aspect to the game, right? Too bad it didn't really work.

WOW/Xeo: Yeah, I'm just like that too. Hell, look at Castle of the Winds. I'll keep playing a dungeon after GRAAH JASON SMASH BOSS until I get every. single. piece of treasure out of there, disarm every trap, and kill every enemy (even though they respawn by the time I leave). It'd kill me that I couldn't max out everything in FF6, because I'd just have to have the Odin Esper turn into... whoever it is that teaches you Ultima.


Well, remember that one sword taught it also.
(yeah, "that one sword". Again I can't think of a name for something ...)

But yeah, I didn't want to trade Odin because no other Esper gave that useful Speed +1 bonus.


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Posted on 07-18-06 09:52 PM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
Originally posted by Racer Xeo
Well, remember that one sword taught it also.
(yeah, "that one sword". Again I can't think of a name for something ...)

But yeah, I didn't want to trade Odin because no other Esper gave that useful Speed +1 bonus.


"That one sword" is actually the Paladin Shield, gotten from the Cursed Shield.

Do you have to trade Odin for that? I forget.

Either way, you could just learn the Ultima spell AFTER you reach level 99, thus meaning you already have all your bonuses.

I never bothered to max out my characters in the way you guys are talking about... I have OCD for dungeons, not stats.


Ah yes, that's what I meant.

But no, you don't necessarily trade Odin, he can transform into Raiden when shown to the Queen's Statue at the Ancient Castle. You can learn the great Quick spell from it, but the level up bonus is just a simple Vigor +2. And when he transforms, there's no turning back.

(busted out the Strategy Guide for those facts)


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Posted on 07-18-06 11:57 PM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
Originally posted by Cara Zeltina
Max stats in FFVI was.. eh, such overkill it isn't funny. I think about halfway there or so, you're already plenty powerful enough to take on the final boss without any real trouble.. right? I seem to recall it being that level range, though it has been awhile so it is hazy.

I tend to go for every item too though, or all the biggies at least. I guess it varies on the game.


Yeah. I remember when I first completed it (On Anthology) most of my "higher" characters were just in the 60's, and some for my other parties were just in the mere 40-50's, and it still wasn't that bad.

I beat the game when I finally got an SNES copy with one level 99 party, and Kefka and everything was just a joke. Not only just having insane Speed, stats, and whatnot but having a cast of several characters being able to cast Life 3, Cure 3-4?, Haste 2, and whatnot like that just makes you invincible.

I dunno, I just had fun maxing out the characters I "liked" a lot.
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Posted on 07-19-06 02:06 AM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
Originally posted by asdf
All this talk about FF6 powerleveling is reminding me of my antics with that in FF7 and FF8. In the latter, Sephiroth didn't even get a hit on me, thanks to 9999 Knights of the Round added to HP and MP Absorb. The weapons met a similar fate. As for FF8, I think I've spent so much time power-leveling and getting stat boosts effectively, that I now have a blue timer. Just because of the boost abilities alone, I have many characters with base stats in the hundreds, and am working on maxing them out. I could easily crush the last bosses if I wanted to.


Meh at Knights of the Round. I remember beating Jenova, all Sephiroth's last forms, and everything by just attacking. Of course I did have 4x Attack and Slash-All on some of the characters ... and each attack was always 9,999 damage ... but all I did was literally button mash "X" basically.

An actual challenge in FFVII for me, was taking on Emerald Weapon (the one in the water correct?) while I was in the 70's or so, without KoTR. I honestly did not want to waste my time mating Chocobo's to get the Gold one, so I just decided to go into hell and try to take on the Weapons without KoTR. I honestly remember Emerald being a pain in the ass. I did the Gravity trick right off the bat to deal 9,999 x4 damage, and then from there constantly had my characters on the Fury status so I could pull out Onmislash often and other Limit Breaks. That's basically how I won that battle ... seriously, if you guys want a good challenge, try doing that. I remember being up all night doing that.

Rube Weapon on the other hand, even without KoTR was simple. I just ended up being lucky enough with that trick where everyone died but Cloud, and then just kept Attacking and using Elixers / X-Potions.

So really the first time I beat FFVII I didn't get the actual KoTR Materia for quite sometime, but I did beat the Weapons earning a Gold Chocobo that way, and got the Master Materia's.
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Posted on 07-19-06 06:00 PM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
Originally posted by Ogre
Why the hell would anyone powerlevel in FF8? Talk about counter-productive. Now, beating FF8 at lv9 average was fun. (Squall at 7, Zell at 8, Irvine at like 11) And yeah, I'm with Xeo on FF7's challenges, they are more fun trying without KoTR. (Especially after my blatant abuse at finding a way to auto-battle them. Meh.)

Come to think of it, other than the semi-lame instant killing of FFX's Nemesis, the only hard challenge boss I can remember in any game was fighting Maya w/o powerleveling past 38 in Parasite Eve.


If you ever play Star Ocean: The Second Story, there are some pretty damn hard optional bosses.

There's multiple difficulties to the game. I had to work my ass off just to beat them all on normal. Apparently the hardest difficulty powers up all the baddies by over double...



Damnit you guys. You guys both brought up excellent RPG's I own, but haven't played much of at all ...

I bought Parasite Eve a few months back for like $12, and have only played 30 minutes of it or so. And I've had Star Ocean II since forever, and I always hear excellent things about it, but I only played a few hours. Didn't get off the first planet you go to, my friend wanted to slap me when I told him that.

I dunno, I just honestly find it very hard to get into RPG's these days. I absolutely love them to death, but I have a hard time finding the time and devotion to play them. I'm 18, and work quite a bit, and when I'm going to school that doesn't really help out either.

I've played countless RPG's in the past, but I can honestly only think of Suikoden V, and Tales of Symphonia when I think of the more "recent" ones I've played probably within the last year or so.

Gah. Life.


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Posted on 07-19-06 10:25 PM, in Final Fantasy going downhill? Link
Originally posted by witeasprinwow

1. Hell, honestly, without ZSNES I would have never played some of my favorite games

2. And, in case you haven't guessed what I have to say...

Play Star Ocean already damnit!


1. Amen to that. Seiken Densetsu 3, Tales of Phantasia, Terranigma to name a few.

2. I'll try to get back into it.

@neo: On Xenosaga II, you're about to hit the 2nd disc! Unless you haven't already. I thought it was a little disappointing getting to the 2nd disc within 10 hours of the game.


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Posted on 07-20-06 12:25 AM, in woo. Link
Maybe its me but your links don't go well with your white background Xk.

And congrats, I guess. But, not really because of bots. Eh?


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Posted on 07-20-06 10:10 PM, in Portal! -From Valve. Link
I've been playing quite a bit of Prey lately. If you guys haven't yet, and are liking what Portal is about I'd say its worth trying it. It has the portal stuff (you just don't have control over it like this), and then there's the walking on ceilings and upside down and funked up gravity that makes the game ... very unique.

As for this, what more can I expect from Valve? This looks insanely cool. Simply said.

Edit: There's also these cool parts in Prey where you get in a ball-like spaceship, and can control it in every axis ... the setting and feel it gives off totally reminds me of Descent. If anyone here has actually played those games.


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Posted on 07-20-06 10:19 PM, in Looking for other good villians Link
Originally posted by witeasprinwow
Originally posted by Grey
I think one of the best villains ever had to be....

Spoiler:
Delita, from FFTactics.


But you didn't hear that one from me.

Good runners up are the Turks, just for being so damn awesome.


EDIT: Grey, you should write that you're talking about FFTactics outside of the spolier box, so people know what game the spolier is for before they highlight it.

Spoiler:
But he isn't really a villain... just a misguided hero. He isn't evil, he just uses questionable methods to achieve good intentions.

Only at the very end does he really do anything blatantly "wrong," and he seems to have remorse for it.

Of course, I'm not complaining that he wasn't evil enough; he was an EXCELLENT character. I'm just not sure if he applies here.



I'd have to agree with wite here, entirely.

Example ... Suikoden II
Spoiler:
It would basically be the same thing as calling Jowy the villian in Suikoden II. Yes, he was the enemy, had his different ways and everything, but he truly was not evil.

But again, in agreement with you guys Delita was an excellent character. And I can say the very same for Jowy.
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