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Tauwasser

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Since: 11-19-05

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Posted on 11-12-06 01:56 PM, in Abortion: whose choice is it? Link
Originally posted by DarkSlaya
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Nono--noooo. That's all garbage. We tried that line of arguing a page ago. That won't work... nooo ><

Originally posted by Silvershield
No animal deserves the same consideration as humans do.


That's very righteous of you to say. Dolphins for example are a very intelligent and sentient species as studies have shown.

Originally posted by Silvershield
equivalence


I never said equivalence anywhere. Don't twist my words. Feeling somewhat empathetic for something or -one isn't the same as feeling of equivalence.

Originally posted by Silvershield
Of course that empathetic feeling does not occur when considering animals because, as they are a totally different, lower species than I am, I find myself totally incapable of personally understanding their perception.


So you're saying you can perceive how a foetus would feel inside its mother womb getting slaughtered? Aside from the fact, that it is unable to feel because nervous strains aren't built up when abortions commonly take place, how so?

And you do know, when abortion didn't exist, people would go back and do shove a hanger in there until everything is smooched enough to be put in a smoothie, don't you?

Originally posted by Silvershield
but that such acts are not morally equivalent to when they are committed on humans.


Why? Where is the difference? Goddammit, a dog has feelings of pain, too. Why is it different from abusing a human when you abuse a dog? I don't see the difference in there. I just see how the world works and go "Well, I don't necessarily need to care." Else, I couldn't stand living in this place.

cYa,

Tauwasser
Tauwasser

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Posted on 11-12-06 07:00 PM, in Abortion: whose choice is it? Link
Originally posted by Silvershield
What's your point?


My point being, that in the end, I for one would prefer the clinical way to abort a foetus rather than having women staggering with hangers to kill it. That's all.

Originally posted by Silvershield
Tell me, honestly, do you not understand the fundamental difference between harming a human and harming an animal, or are you being facetious?


I do understand what you're saying. It just doesn't make any sense. You say that no animal deserves the same consideration as a human because they are "lower species". That won't fit with your stance on abortion, because it can be seen pretty much as the same thing. It's not a human yet, so it certainly according to you must be lower. Then why would anyone have to consider it with like rights as humans'?

Originally posted by Silvershield
Surely I would love to wipe out abortion on a global scale, and certainly I think that would be a righteous goal, but it's not realistic and, frankly, it's beyond my scope at this point in time.


And hopefully it stays that way and conservative people like you don't take over the world. I would definitely hate to see a good solution to this problem (in the clinical sense at least) get wiped out because some jerks with only Jesus and how he loves all his children on their minds have the rights to say what'll happen. You see such prats every day in the American Congress (though that should've hopefully changed now).

Oh, and the stuff about absolutes ("right"/"wrong") can't be left at that, no matter what. I mean, how dare you judge other culture's understanding of what's right and wrong? You simply shouldn't! You argue that people who got raised with a special mindset wouldn't kill another human. However, your approach should be a human who doesn't know right from wrong. He would certainly do it.
This can be seen in little kids nowadays. When their parents don't teach them something well, e.g. that stealing is labeled "bad", then kids will definitely at some point think it's their right to steal stuff. It really is all about the upbringing how you think in such situations. Nothing more, nothing less. The little kids in that tribe are never going to get to know (=accept) your morals or mindset and vice versa.

cYa,

Tauwasser

(edited by Tauwasser on 11-12-06 06:04 PM)
Tauwasser

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Posted on 11-14-06 03:34 PM, in Abortion: whose choice is it? Link
Please elaborate then.






cYa,

Tauwasser
Tauwasser

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Posted on 11-15-06 07:23 AM, in Abortion: whose choice is it? Link
Well, you didn't answer though. The link contained nothing I was concerned about. You said I could show you any living (or once-living) thing and you could tell if it was human or not. You failed that test miserably.

So.

Another anaology: There's a man in your custody that knows the code to a secret bunker where your family is and dies right now. Would it be immoral to torture him to get the code and save a few lives?

Originally posted by Silvershield
it's easy for an American to turn a blind eye to torture because it is so distant from us. It's happening in Cuba, or in the Middle East, but not anywhere near our own soil.


But obviously they don't. They invade other countries to rape their natural goods as well as other things and leave nothing but atrocity behind. Your argument is somewhat broken.

cYa,

Tauwasser

(edited by Tauwasser on 11-15-06 06:24 AM)
Tauwasser

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Posted on 11-16-06 02:32 PM, in Abortion: whose choice is it? Link
Originally posted by n3g-Z3r0 theory
"Now the word of the Lord came to me saying, 'Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations." (Jeremiah 1:5). Obviously, as soon as the sead finds it's way to the egg it becomes a human, in a sense, God has a plan for all of us and he knows our life before we are born. To solve problems such as abortion I propose the following plan

1. That all women must apply for a pregnency permit before being allowed to create a child
2. Before handing out a pregnency permit the woman must be tested for compitency including: Ability to support child, be not mentally retarded, etc..etc..
3. After recieving permit they are allowed one child. They can re-apply for another permit at anytime after child is born; however, they will go through the same process again.
4. if a pregnet women is stopped and doesn't have proof of a permit, she will be forced to pay a heavy fine; including, the inability to keep child i.e. adoption

With the above plan enacted, the "great debate" over abortion should be solved and children will be able to grow up in a compitent family and thus be able to have a better future.



Well, sure as hell your mom wouldn't have got a permit. Look at the retarded way you write, sir :|

On a side-note. "To know" or "to get to know" in the bible is often used as a wording for having sex with somebody. The people of Sodom all wanted to get to know the stranger, which meant they wanted to participate in buttsexuous activities. That's why Gawd boiled them to ashes or stone statues or whatever. So in my opinion, it's not a good wording.

cYa,

Tauwasser
Tauwasser

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Posted on 11-18-06 06:15 PM, in Approval once again Link
Hi there,

yeah, it's me again. Actually, I just wanna contribute something here.

But yeah, basically, I need approval to do that, funny as is.

cYa,

Tauwasser
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