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Posted on 12-24-06 11:05 PM, in WE HAVE ESCAPED THE BLACK HOLE! Link
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Posted on 12-24-06 11:07 PM, in WE HAVE ESCAPED THE BLACK HOLE! Link
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Posted on 12-25-06 12:28 AM, in Merry Christmas! Link
Merry Christmas to everybody, I guess.

So far, the only thing I got is a christmas card from Trapster ()... probably will wind up getting like 100something euros (*1.1 or whatever to get US$) from my parents and seeing if I have anything to spend them on (probably will wind up with nothing and the money slowly but steadily procreating on my bank account). As long as my computer equipment doesn't break or become so outdated that it starts being a nuisance, I really rarely ever wish for anything.

As for BMF's layout, I consider the shade of blue used for the background a bit too shiny and... eye-lasering.
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Posted on 12-25-06 12:55 AM, in Holocaust Deniers Convention in Iran Link
Originally posted by Jomb
Instead of making Holocaust denial illegal, lets make advocating violence illegal. That way someone who is innocently questioning history and honestly looking for evidence will not be jailed over it, while the hate groups you want to target can still be prevented from trying to organize another genocide. Intent and actions are more important than simply questioning the Holocaust or any other tragedy.


As far as I know, most countries already do have laws against violent agitation. Yet, for some reason, those are regarded as not enough in some countries.

In my opinion, people who try to justify laws making holocaust denial punishable are ignorant to the fact that makes them, from the freedom of expression point of view, not much better than the Nazis. Abstractly said, it's just banning the expression of opinions contrary to the accepted model of "truth" in both cases.

Originally posted by Jomb
It should also be illegal to say that the Spanish Inquisition never happened, or to question how the Japanese treated the Chinese during WW2.

The latter would force governments to build whole new prisons to handle the influx of knuck-style quasireligious weeaboo to-be jailbirds who have a stronger belief in Japan's "superiority" (vocable (C) the aforementioned) alone than the whole creationist front of the USA has in the USA being god's chosen country taken together.
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:22 AM, in Holocaust Deniers Convention in Iran Link
To repeat my point which apparently didn't come over clearly enough, hate crime laws exist either way, and I don't object to those. I do, however, object to the ban on questioning the occurance of the holocaust because, in my eyes, it's an unjustifiable limitation of freedom of expression.

If you still want to say that's not the same thing for the reasons given, please tell me how the WWII Nazi freedom of expression limitation concept of "disrupture of the people's morale" which basically put a ban on any speech questioning the Nazi party or their ideology under punishment per se lead to any minorities being beaten up, Jews being wiped out or wars being waged.

edit- since you were so quick with your reply, tell me how your concept of "liberty by lack thereof" is not schizophrenic. Democracy means allowing all opinions to be voiced, even if you don't like them. Even if most people don't like them. Even if you know for yourself they are wrong.

(edited by Satan Claus (oops typo) on 12-24-06 07:25 PM)
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:34 AM, in Holocaust Deniers Convention in Iran Link
Assuming the first instance of the word "issue" is supposed to say "comparison"... I drew a comparison between the issuers of those two laws, yes. Not because I wanted to point and say that our "current authorities are as bad as the Nazis", but because I wanted to point and say they are using the same methods to ensure a one-opinion system. And again, in the end, it's not multiple parties that make up a working democracy - it's multiple opinions.
In a society that considers itself a vessel of liberty and free speech in an increasingly radicalized and totalitarian world, you should be able to say that one plus one is three, the Romans invented the Internet or the Holocaust didn't occur without fearing to be put behind bars for it.
(And yes, my actual point was to draw a "superfluous and questionable" comparison between saying the Holocaust didn't occur and any other absurd statement)
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:48 AM, in Holocaust Deniers Convention in Iran Link
The decrease in count of regimes we call totalitarian is just because of the natural relativity of our point of view. Most of the western world is approaching a police state situation at a speed faster than Osama could speak on a hate video.

Though I'd like to open up a separate thread for that... since this one already reached the state of plentiful Nazi comparisons and touched the topic, I'll just go ahead and state that the current model of "international terrorism" is very well comparable in credibility, evidence, way of being used, scale and purpose to the "Jewish conspiracy" model under the Nazis. Both seemed perfectly plausible from an unsuspecting citizen in the respective system point of view too.
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:53 AM, in Holocaust Deniers Convention in Iran Link
9/11 happened, and I will not speculate as to whether it were the CIA, the freemasons or the more probably hypothesis of a bunch of islamist nuts with knives.

Under the Nazis, it can be taken for granted there was an incident when a jew shot the German ambassador in Paris as well. (edit: link)

Go figure what my point is.

(edited by Satan Claus (oops typo) on 12-24-06 07:59 PM)
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Posted on 12-25-06 02:06 AM, in WE HAVE ESCAPED THE BLACK HOLE! Link
*detonates a nuke in the stratosphere*
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Posted on 12-26-06 08:16 PM, in 21 Link
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Posted on 12-26-06 11:14 PM, in Post like it's 2018! Link
Did you hear the latest gossip yet? They have been calling the discovery of this thing "TXT files" a revolution and proclaimed "Web 9.0". It is said to have awesome capabilities like being able to store any type of data and allowing users to determine important aspects like the background colour or font used on their own! They are also said to use a cunning algorithm to represent characters with single-byte codes which are converted into text using a special image table. I imagine this can come in quite handy, seeing as the MPAA is about to pass a law that bans civilian broadband connections in order to battle piracy of the new "Holy F*ck Definition" format movies. Now isn't that awesome? Though I somehow get this feeling I've already seen that before, long ago... I blame the caffeine pills.
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Posted on 12-27-06 02:22 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Originally posted by Koryo
What about Venezuela or Cuba?

Seeing as the USA already have nuclear arms and there's few to nothing that can be done about that, I honestly don't see any problem with Venezuela getting any. They are exactly like the USA, except much smaller. And they have a more socialist government, in most positive and some few of the negative connotations that word has.
Then, of course, I almost forgot... the US point of view on things was that even a fascist dictature still is better than a socialist leftist more-or-less-elected government, as long as it's in favour of capitalism.
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Posted on 12-27-06 08:09 PM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Originally posted by Koryo
Seeing as the USA already have nuclear arms and there's few to nothing that can be done about that, I honestly don't see any problem with Venezuela getting any. They are exactly like the USA, except much smaller. And they have a more socialist government, in most positive and some few of the negative connotations that word has.
Then, of course, I almost forgot... the US point of view on things was that even a fascist dictature still is better than a socialist leftist more-or-less-elected government, as long as it's in favour of capitalism.

Exactly. That's why the US backed Joseph Stalin against Adolf Hitler. Because Stalin was an advocate of capitalism. Because Stalin's fascism was better than Hitler's socialism.

Political situations change. You couldn't exactly give an evaluation of France's external politics judging by the decisions of Louis XIV either.
Also, you may go ahead and tell me what exactly was socialist about Stalin beyond the label. I eagerly await your statement on that.
That doesn't change a thing about how the US administration supported fascist militia movements all across Middle and South America starting with the 1950s though, mostly to fight against perfectly democratically elected governments that showed a bit too much of an affinity towards a non-free market system. Take Chile as an example.
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Posted on 12-27-06 10:59 PM, in do we have a "Post your desktop" thread yet? Link
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Posted on 12-28-06 02:21 PM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Okay, maybe I went too far with flagging them "fascist"... I basically took the term to mean every government that seeks to control their people not only on a hard-facts, physical but also on a psychological level. On second sight, that would allow for it being applied on almost every modern government and make "fascism" pretty much a fundamentatal principle of politics.

>> You might say that the US has supported some "dictators", but then, communist dictators are just as dictatorial as fascist dictators.
First off, none of those "communist dictators" you speak off were even remotely "communist" in any possible sense of the word. Unless you would have no problems calling Nazi Germany "Communist Germany" if Hitler at some point said it is, but otherwise didn't change anything about his politics.
Secondly, you go ahead and tell me how the democratically elected government of Allende, to stay with the Chile example, was a dictature and/or had such tendencies.

>> I should also point out to blackhole that Pinochet didn't really become a gung-ho free-marketeer and turn the country into a laboratory for Chicago-school economists until a bit after the coup (nothing like a reactionary military junta to get those pesky unions and civil society groups out of the way of your abstract economic experiments).
Never claimed that. He was supported by the USA to remove the "a bit too leftist" Allende administration, not to primarily establish an investor paradise.

Speaking of Russia, I also dare say it isn't considerably less democratic of a country right now than the USA are. The power Putin currently holds as its president is well comparable to the power Bush holds as a president of the USA, and Putin could only dream of the power that Bush and the multibillion industry lobby (the two of them mostly speak in a political unison) hold together. Cases of wide-reaching questionable political practice are known from both countries, and it would be naive to say no political pressure against journalists critical of the government occurs in the USA.
Being a Russian citizen myself, I could conclude that while Russia with a functioning US-style and -scale supervision apparatus of FBI, NSA and what-not would indeed be a tad more oppressive, it is practically the most liberal and "freedom-infested" country I have been to due to the plain fact of those not functioning at all.
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Posted on 12-31-06 01:58 PM, in Here comes 2007... Link
2006 is going to end for the Australians (at least some of them) in not even 2 minutes... I still have 10 hours more than that to wait though

2006 was the... hmm... most extreme year for me so far. As in, it had both the worst downsides and best positive sides in my time. I wouldn't really mind a little cutdown on the positive side for 2007 if it goes along with a bit less of the negative side.

I'll likely spend new year itself with a friend blowing things up in town. Or we'll both stay at my place and spend it on IRC. xD
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Posted on 01-01-07 04:07 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Originally posted by Koryo
2: Russia is less democratic than the US. Global power has nothing to do with democracy vs dictatorship. Just because Bush is more powerful on a world scale than Putin doesn't make him less democratic. It's power within your own country that matters. Bush will be held in place with very little power over the next two years because of a democratic congress. Putin, on the other hand, is replacing elected Russian offices with appointed offices, stuffing corporate headquarters full of his own loyalists, and possibly even assassinating his opposition. If the people decided they wanted Putin out of office tomorrow, would it happen? Of course not. I doubt Putin will be the next Hitler, or even the next Castro. I'm sure he will be out of office within 10 years, but he is none the less far less democratic than the US.

This might be a little late of a reply, but I still would like to point a few things out.

The assumption that Putin is anywhere near close to an autocratic sovereign of Russia is highly fallacious. Just like Bush pretty much is a figurehead politician carried by a far mightier than they should be in a proper democracy petrol industry lobby and the party representing their interests (and before you even start, I am not trying to make this an "evil republicans vs. good democrats" thing. The Democrat party is hardly, if at all, better.), Putin is a figurehead politician carried by a party that holds far more old Soviet-time elites than would be healthy for it, certain parts of the mafia and a select lobby of government-friendly industries. Both could be removed at ease and in no time if they lost the support of their hardly to be called democratic backup system.
While the whole "assassination of oppositionals in Russia omg" thing has been incredibly blown up to an absurd scale (the FSB supposedly poisoned Litvinenko with radioactive Polonium? Doesn't that seem slightly odd, if not grotesque, considering pretty much every larger secret service of the world is well in possession of toxic substances that cause instant death and decay within a few hours?), it is of course undisputable that the methods of the antidemocratic process differ in both countries. In Russia, an "unwanted" newspaper's owner typically will first be provided a rather profitable offer for selling it; if he refuses, he typically will be accused of some hard to prove or disprove financial crime or straight out shot using hired and entirely clueless lower-level organized criminality pawns. In the USA, something allegedly immoral from that person's early sexual life will be discovered by the respective other party's media, leading to loss of any political influence in the moralist country. Or a set of television preachers will declare him ungodly. The effect on a political opinion, still, is pretty much the same. The antidemocratic shift, too, goes in the same direction of giving those with money, wit and a certain amount of criminal intent a higher influence in the political process.
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Posted on 01-02-07 10:09 PM, in Converting to Catholicism Link
May I, out of sheer curiosity, ask what reasons led you to pick Roman Catholicism out of all the Christian sects out there? And don't say it's because of your family. For such a grave decision, you must have had a better reason than that.
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Posted on 01-02-07 11:49 PM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
You do have a point there. Thing is, the problem Russia has is not a Putin problem, it is a typical Russian problem... the corruption and politically motivated criminality have been there ever since. It's just that in the Soviet age few oozed out, and before and after that mostly nobody cared. As you said, the main difference under Putin is that he is deliberately drawing foreign attention for whatever reason, and that Russia somehow managed to become matter of interest to western media. It's just questionable whether that kind of attention is capable of helping the situation in any way.
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Posted on 01-03-07 05:26 PM, in Converting to Catholicism Link
What exactly about Roman Catholicism was "founded by Jesus" though, or makes it "the original christian faith"? After the death of Jesus, Christianity pretty much broke apart and scattered in all directions; with that, one might argue, the "original christian religion" was lost. The Roman Catholic church was essentially "founded" by the Council of Nicaea, or Emperor Constantine, whichever you prefer. At least, that's the point at which most of the Catholic interpretation of the bible emerged.
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