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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES                 Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| http://www.economist.com/daily/news/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8475137
Because it only proves a slavish desire for blood that they should rise above. This isn't about democracy, this is about relative pride. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Nixon in China by MacMillan. Read: Any text book on the Eastern Front of the Cold War. China was an unbelivably important player. It was the third pole of the Cold War and was the generally accepted point of conflict between the Eastern powers and a war that the West couldn't have stayed out of. Your obsession with democractic imperial power doesn't negate that a polar power needs not to be a "super" power. The Cold War was an assymetric ideological conflict. Mao introduced a completely seperate ideological drive to the Soviet Union. They created a fully different power structure after Kruschev's Secret Speech. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Really, you should care what one of hte most respected publications in the world states. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Now, compare the amount of changes that it caused within geo-politics.
A pole doesn't have to be a light-sabre. It just has to be a pole and pull things toward it. Which is what China did. It caused the rest of the world a head ache throughout the 60s, 70s, and well into the 80s with its anti-Soviet rhetoric and was almost the flash point of global war. As for the ideology it influenced. Albania, Indonesia, and Cambodia were small potatoes. But the fact that it caused a permanent split within the Communist movement that still exists to this day. That is a pretty powerful thing to have done. Creating a challenge to Leninism and Stalinism. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES  Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I've said what I believe.
That this is a slavish and brutish act. And that it is nothing more than another drop of blood into an ocean. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| So, yeah. I hate to be the one to point this out again.
china was a third pole in world politics during the 1970s when the US tried to play them off against the Soviets. They tried to play Communism off of itself due to the influence that Maoism had within the world-wide movement. Interestingly, Mao was denounced pretty heavily during this whole time. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Exile? I was thinking extradition to another nation. Keep him in prison somewhere else. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I think you think in too blunt of terms without any regard to nuance. It doesn't matter how many bombs you have. France was the third nuclear power because it could easily export its technology, quickly produce the weapons, and had the ability to test them openly. Not to mention those abilities to project its power. Du Gaule had some interesting anecdotes about 800 million Russians and however many million Frenchmen and the bombs.
It isn't being compared to the US and USSR. It was simply another pole around which world events swirrled. After the End of History in 1991 the world only had one pole around which to orbit. Now, there are a vast deal more than one. Arwon, I thought we were talking about alt-history. That's all that these threads seem to be capable of when Lev's ghost keeps on dropping in on my right hand side (edited by Ziff on 12-29-06 11:02 PM) |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Yeah, he didn't though. He didn't kil yours. And really, democracy isn't equatable to death. I just don't see a causality between democracy and a right-to-murder idea. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES  Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Ummm, I don't think anyone was talking about China taking on another Communist power directly in the interim.
As for the SAU being speculation, it is warranted specul;ation given the leftish swing of the region and the pull towards trading blocs that the world is going through right now. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES  Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| "If the Iraqis want him dead, its their right."
I'm pretty sure that that is an instance of you equating his death penalty to democracy. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| University > College.
Trust me. What are you going for,t hough. Because that can matter. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Who has relevant power?
China has more power, yes. But there is nothing China can really do. It can put some pressure on its allies to do this, that or the other thing...but China still needs to play by the market rules like everyone else. Besides, China has geographically closer Africa and Central Asia for more fuel quicker.  |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| A discussion that shant be so easily derailed.
So, how about them there bills? |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I think that there are a lot of reasons. Jane Jacobs touched on them briefly in one of her works. I guess sub-urbanization is one, as are many socio-economic realities combined with a culture of entitlement around firearms. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Umm, I'm a supporter of the Surge Theory.
I just think that this is a stupid move that should've been stopped. Not the right way to assert your new powers |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| We have the same formal naming context, too. But Colleges are technical, universities are theoretical up here. Hands on vs. books
College is the step below university. You get a diploma at college. You get a degree at university. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I like gun control. My friends have theirs registered and it is a useful enforcement tool. Its not like it HURTS you to spend 5 minutes to register your god damned gun. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Yeah, I need to remember that the US doesn't have that break in terms as strongly as we do. You can be at a college, but it is usually a University Of So and So College. Normally colleges are just technical institutes for the "lesser" (note the quotes) positions. Like a weaker business program. Advertising. Graphical design. And then apprenticeships. Stuff like that. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Oh, it is unwinnable. But we can still minimize the damage that we caused. It is kind of our duty to try to fix a few things. |
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