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Posted on 12-27-06 04:57 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Proliferation was caused by afforementioned policy.

Japan is looking into the bomb, Saudi, UAE, Egypt, Germany (a small hint was made by the SDP def sec), Brazil, and probably a few others are all looking into the policy of implimenting a nuclear arsenal into their missile and strike forces.
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Posted on 12-27-06 05:31 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
No, but then we wouldn't be in a muck of proliferation had Bush not had a completely failed foreign policy. The choice of looking at the nuclear deterrent has been sped up to unbelievable levels. A direct result of "us". Building a bomb is a thing of money. UAE wants to be a regional power. They have the money behind them to acquire nuclear technology. It isn't that much of a stretch. But of course. It isn't the US Regime Changing that I worry about in that region. It is Internal Destabilization With Nuclear Weapons Because When It Occurs Were Fucked...ing.

As for Libya. Qadafi was on the point of collapse due to sanctions on all sides and liberalization of neighbouring regimes, not to mention the potentiality of collapses. Besides, he isn't exactly ideologicaly driven. He is sort of an MC Hammer of dictators. He just wants to have the best parachute pants in the region. He wanted money. The Americans were fishing for people that will pay lipservice. He got trade. He got happy-da. The fact is that Libya was going to drop their weapon research programs sooner or later due to the unbelievably high upkeep costs necessary to keep them going.
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Posted on 12-27-06 05:50 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Other than not being what I've said at all. Sure
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Posted on 12-28-06 05:06 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Because your knowledge is probably ridiculously skewed? I mean, you didn't provide one bloody example to my question and completely dodged it.

Mind you, I've finally found a quote to encapsulate your ideas right off the go "(though I hate to be agreeing with him)",
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Posted on 12-28-06 06:27 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Originally posted by Arwon
Oddly enough, it's Russia that's the country most likely to be lurching towards fascism right now.


Russia is indeed wacky beyond all belief. It is just that he has yet to substantiate anything. Not that it would do any use. I like to use the old idiom of My Democracy != Your Democracy. By all means, Russia is democratic. Elected state, elected head of state, yaddiyaddiyaya. But of course it isn't a really health democracy. I think we all know that this is due to forcing neolib reforms too quickly on a state in transition from a completely centrally planned economy to...you know. No more central planning.
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Posted on 12-29-06 05:14 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Originally posted by Koryo
It's true that China has many internal problems (which I can only hope will one day lead to a democratic revolution), but remember that China only needs about 1/4 as much per capita wealth as the US has in order to equal the US' total wealth, because China has 4x our population. True, China's population will decline a bit in the near future because of their one child rule, but I still don't see China ever having less than 3x the US population in the foreseeable future. Also, if China puts a system of satellite based lasers into space, they could cancel out much of the US' power in a single day. This technology (which could be used to shoot down missiles, planes, ships, and even other satellites) isn't feasible at this very moment, but is coming very soon. I think the US will probably be capable of deploying such a system a few years before the Chinese will (and it may be one of the last inventions that we make before the Chinese). But my fear is that the US will be sluggish about deploying such a system because of the "militarization of space" stigma, whereas China may rush the system into orbit as soon as it is competed. I think that is the most likely scenario of China replacing the US as the world's hegemon. The second most likely scenario behind that one IMHO would be a very slow weakening of US economy, military, and influence over many decades along with a slow increase in the Chinese economy, military, and influence.


China won't be a world "hegemon". What you're going to see is the growth of non-state actors and micropower challenges to Big Powers. There will never be some sort of world hegemon in the hyper-power sense of 19thC Britain or the modern USA. That time is past. The world is too drawn between flash points in Africa, Central Asia, the Middle East, Latin America, and elsewhere due to the effects of globalization on general political knowledge. The world right now is in a massive state of change and we won't be able to see it fully yet. It is probably best to stop thinking in the black-and-white world of the Reagen years (which, I swear, most Americans can't seem to escape) and start to seriously re-evaluate world operations.

As for your space-warfare conspiracy fears. Yeah, not going to happen. Anyone with a brain and a subscription to Popular Mechanics will realize that laser-based anti-missile systems IN SPACE are fundamentally useless because it is easier to change your warhead generation than it is to update a giant space network of death ray satellites. The economic incentive isn't there. MAD is sitting over anyones head who decides to fuck around too much with nukes.
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Posted on 12-29-06 05:18 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Not if my Chinese zerglings take over your American democrotanks first! Then you'll see!
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Posted on 12-29-06 05:23 AM, in Are the Dems really winning? Link
Originally posted by Arwon
Canadian Senate.



We like our senate like old people sex without viagra. Pointless, without drive, boring, and totally lacking power.
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Posted on 12-29-06 07:02 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Originally posted by Alkis
Actually, China's going to brag and show-off an entire fleet of hydrogen-powered buses for the 2008 Olympic games.



Imperialism at its height!

Although Koryo. Is this an admission of American imperialism? Because that's what your post indicates. China is doing what is its "biological" (to carry on your hilarious metaphor) detiny. Which is what America has done.
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Posted on 12-29-06 04:34 PM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
One thing I recall from early in this page is that Koryo made the insinuation that China would continue to expand its military power so that it could have a global reach and projection power like the United States. The Chinese lack a very powerful navy (but they are buying old Russian stuff which is fairly decent) and will only want direct power projection over their portion of the globe. The ability to interdict any potentially destabilizing conflicts on its door steps on the Pacific is their hoped scope of military power. China will only want to insure that that is the case on their homefront. On the frontiers of their nation (that being Central Asia and South Asia) they will only position enough troops to counteract the influence of a threatening forward position of what they see, rightly so, as enemies. Remember, China is caged in on all sides with regimes that aren't all that friendly with it. Japan to the east with a lot of US support, India to the sout west, a hornets nest of historically unstable regimes and lots of US support to the direct south. On the direct west China is boxed in with a gigantic desert and then the Xianjiang area. This is where they will have the most headaches soon, from a public relations point of view. Muslim Turkic peoples inhabit this region and at present the Chinese do not see this is as a primary threat, at all. Also in the west is the great game that they, Russia, and the US are playing in Central Asian nations like Kyrgz, Kazakh, Turkmen, Tajik, Afghan, and Uzbek. Luckily for China they forged the SCO early enough to get that issue sorted out, but the US is beginning to prop up regimes that will allow it to use forward military positions in a theoretical conflict with China. Additionally, in the North, is the old constant rival of Russia that is currently eyeing sinification of its Eastern areas with a great amount of disdain. Again, SCO kind of irons out those difficulties. Then also in the N. is the constant bitch of a thorn in the side of China - North Korea. That embarassing little prick of a friend that China has to prop up to avoid geo-political tumults on a scale that we have never seen. China is boxed in enough, they don't need to spend the hundred of billions that the US needs to to upkeep a globalized military force. They're more than content enough to stay on their coastline and protect the atheistic ideology of the Chinese Communist Party while only minimally spreading out into the world. The world is going to China. They don't need to run out to greet it with a stick.

As for power influence, I'd imagine that the China is going to continue to make friends. But, in this process China is really empowering the other BRIC nations and raising them to a new level of power that they've not seen before. Additionally, China's power plays in Africa may have an unforeseen side-effect. They're dabbling around with the new centre of world Christianity and they may begin to have reciprocal effects. China may have more Christians in their nation (which is not a pretty prospect for Christians or the government) due to an increasingly large exposure. However, there may be an upside to this. China may be able to influence world Christian bodies in fairly minor ways. But they're tied up enough right now with paranoia over resurgent Buddhist beliefs in China and want to really put their foot down on that issue.

Also, I just wanted to see if you would agree with me on the point that the US was an imperial power. Although I'm agreeance with you that it is the most palatable empire that has been around.
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Posted on 12-29-06 05:06 PM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
I don't like the idea of Chinese hegemony or empire, if you're trying to insinuate that. I'm merely stating that your characterization of China is too MS Cold War-esque. China was the third pole in the Cold War. Likewise, today, there isn't going to be a uni-, or bi- polar world. It is going to be multi-polar with various regions of influence that are going to degrade the traditional (past decade) power of the US. Non-state actors and micropowers (whether they are declared or undeclared (like Turkestan or Tran-Nister) are going to be a headache for the Old Powers like the US, China, and anyone else stuck in the world today with a large economy. However, it is my feeling that the US is going to be supplanted in sheer non-military power by the EU, which is going to become radically more centralized and expressive of its ambitions as a continental body in the next two decades. Likewise, S. Korea is going to become an unbalanced power in the way that Russia, Iran, or Venezuela have turned. S. Korea has an understated amount of influence on the Chinese in terms of soft power. Cuisine, culture, manners, entertainment, things that you don't think matter, but really do are flowing into China from S. Kore and the Chinese (particularly in the North) are eating it up with love. Plus, there is going to be a big growth in energy powers which aren't going to act like puppy client states for China or the US. They're going to become regionally assertive and try to broker deals that will allow them to grab the big powers with some chutzpah. Russia wants to really control C. Asia and gain more a foothold in Europe. Venezuela is trying to forge an EU of the Latin American nations (which seems somewhat doable given that it could probably get some sympathy with energy rich Trinidad & Tobago with time). Iran is trying to become the pre-eminent power in the Middle East in lieu of the destruction of Iraq and the instability that it can potentially wield. Australia is probably going to be doing something similar and we're seeing Canada gearing up for a slightly less assertive role as an energy power. The EU too could potentially offset some of these issues by really going forward with energy reforms and trying to pull in Norway to their fold, but the latter seems somewhat unlikely. Like I said, my main issue with your points on China is that you're really missing the big picture. We're moving into a radical and multi-polar world.

But really, "China will be more heavy handed in its occupations, China will back the dictators over the democrats, China will be less careful about civilian collateral damage, and China will not care about environmental consequences." on all those counts they just learned it from their hitherto unannounced rival.
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Posted on 12-29-06 05:10 PM, in Are the Dems really winning? Link
Simplified, but not wholly incorrect.
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Posted on 12-29-06 11:07 PM, in Are the Dems really winning? Link
The first 4 sentences were pretty okay.
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Posted on 12-29-06 11:36 PM, in Are the Dems really winning? Link
I don't understand the conspiracy theory behind this one. Al-Qaeda and other Muslim radicals wanted to attack the American mainland for ages. I think it is just a foolish conspiracy theory.
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Posted on 12-29-06 11:40 PM, in PSP or XBOX 360 Link
X-Box 360. No question. Gears of War = win.

A whole bunch of great games are coming out, and it is a pretty damned good system.


Psp has locoroco and a few MGS. That's about it.
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Posted on 12-30-06 04:17 AM, in Are the Dems really winning? Link
Get off your high horse there, bud. I don't care who it is on this forum. You can attack them, you can do whatever. But you don't permanently discount them because of their opinion. I haven't done it to you. Don't you fucking dare do it to anyone else. I was the one that started the part of the board. And that has always been something I've looked at with posters. You aren't going to be the person to start a cycle of being a dick.
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Posted on 12-30-06 04:19 AM, in North Korea's got Nukes.....and I care, why? Link
Really, it wasn't? I guess that the Sino-Soviet split and the issues that it caused were absolutely nothing.
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Posted on 12-30-06 04:21 AM, in Looks like the Dems are winning Link
The guns in Canada are usually rifles. In the US there are basically uncontrolled hand guns that flood the streets like fleas cover a dog.
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Posted on 12-30-06 04:22 AM, in Saddam Hussein Link
Way to prove nothing, Iraq.
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Posted on 12-30-06 04:30 AM, in Are the Dems really winning? Link
I've been on this board for 5 years, and in the general community for 6. I'm not liked by a lot ofpeople, even those that hate me give me some respect and I give them the same. Don't you DARE call any shots.
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