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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES                  Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS +Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination I like RTSs, primarily. And I have a few other things for on here. But really, not that much variety =P |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by BiteMark1992 ...What? What is the logic behind this? |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| MMIII by far. I mean, MMII was the first one I beat on NES. But seriously, MMIII was the magnum opus of the series on the NES | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Serie A is fine and all. I like Roma the most. AC Milan was good until they lost Shevy.
Roma is great because it was the first team I'd ever really watchedthe pro-soccer of. Plus, I've got one of their jerseys. But I'm not a big fan of the Italian league since the scandal. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES  Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| so many old systems neglected by a poorly designed poll : ( | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Israel = Iran?
"You cann't deny that the Holocaust happened because it is written down in the history books it isn't something that no one has seen. There are people alive today who lived through it. So there is no way you can deny that it happened the way you might deny that you put gum in your sibling's hair. There are documentaries on the Holocaust." Although, the logic is not there...Denying the Holocaust is a travesty, I agree. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I'm usually extremely "GO FREE SPEECH" but Holocaust denial is a slippery slope. Once the Holocaust is openly debated to the point of being seen legitmately as doubtable (not like real facts and evidence matter to most people) then you've let the extreme-right and other anti-semetic groups win. Different peoples have to put up having their genocides glossed over and snowed to being debates. Trust me, it hurts when millions of your fellow blood are targetted for death and then that travesty is chalked up to being a god damned debate. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by SilvershieldOriginally posted by Plus Sign AbominationNormally I would agree, but I feel like the Holocaust is such a hot-button issue, such a taboo that is virtually unequaled in the modern world, that formal laws are not necessary to preserve it as historical fact. Sure you'll have the nutjobs who will deny it, but I don't see that minute faction gaining any sort of foothold when the great majority of the population recognizes how off-limits that sort of discussion is. I would say that when those nutjobs are enshrined by a nation's foreign policy bureau and are being legitimized by a major regional power, then yeah. I really do worry that such a taboo could be overturned. Human existence is inherently irrational and people will follow to what appeals to their most bestial and lowest points of existence. The Jews have formed an excellent historic scapegoat for the masses in Germany, England, Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Greece, Italy, Croatia, Bulgaria, Belgium, Hungary, France, Poland and so on (I bet you didn't see what I just did there  ) and they're drifting back towards to being an excellent scapegoat again. The highly militarized Israel and the Zionist factions of Judaism are becoming targets that in the Middle East and abroad are making it okay to broadswipe Jews of all stripes. And what is even worse, is that there will probably be a bit of a trickle down effect due to this. This is realization by a major nation state that is legitimizing Holocaust denial. This is a leading power in its region. This is something that will reverberate even more across the Muslim world. Anything that allows that minute faction to begin to weasel its way into even thinking of challenging the perceived conceptions of how off-limits this discussion should be...I want it stopped. The reason why Holocaust denial is a bad thing is because if that number of people killed from sheer hatred will allow the ideology that led to this to become slightly more palatable.
As for Darfur, I bet that I did think about it. However, it is not necessarily applicable to this debate. Because I bet no one here ever thought of Holodomor or the Armenian Genocide. So, yeah. I'd rather if you just shut up  Because I bet that you've never had it debated whether the wholesale slaughter of your people was merely a policy decision or not. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES  Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Because it is that sort of singular "ultimate human low".
It was a completely industrialized wholesale slaughter of humans. It is so different than any other thing ever done to humans on such a scale. Honestly, if you can't see why the Holocaust is an exception, then you never will. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Because it is the most visible, brutal, and vile.
I'm not insulting you here. But SS, you really have to understand. Once your people have been targetted for extermination...you tend to sympathize with other people who have gone through the experience. I honestly don't think you can really understand what it all means. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| You know what? I'm going to say that this is a god damned excellent album. I'd never sat down and just listened to it end to end. But it is a very deep, dark, and skillfully done piece. Pretty much close to perfect. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by A. Truly, a relatively minor glitch must be the greatest, most deadly glitch ever to glitchly hit glitch town since glitch. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| What in the hell are you talking about?
You've twisted my words to a ridiculous degree. The fact of the matter is that the Holocaust is the worst of the bunch. Myself and some of my friends (like Armenians) all agree on this. The Holocaust is not something that should EVER be touched. But that isn't to say that I'm saying that people should go and stomp over the Armenian genocide. Or the killing fields of Polpot or anything like that. But yeah. Personal attachments are really relevant. You ever look at a picture of a dead man that was starved to death? You ever have to sit there and look and say "That man was probably related to me"? You ever have to sit down and think "What if my grandparents hadn't left that country when they did"? You ever have to sit down and completely question your existence, your identity, your heritage? |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Arwon summed up better than I could ever do. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| " but you apparently do not empathize with other ethnic groups who have also been slaughtered."
Seriously... |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Yes, Silvershield.
That is exactly what I'm saying. 100% absolutely. I mean, sure. You have to bend all of my words. And make vast accusations, but sure. I fucking hate everyone but Jews. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Well, as long as you recognize that I lord over you in every way possible... | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| No, it wasn't. You're pulling things out of nowheres ville. I said that the brutality of the Holocaust sets it apart from other genocides. Not that I was advocating vociferous hatred towards other non-jews or something sick like that. I was saying that the Holocaust, when it is denied, debases all of those that have been put through genocide.
The only thing that you're promoting is a worthless attack on me. "but you won't see America outlawing anti-slavery speech. " This doesn't happen because there is a large amount of people that seem to love being racists. "Are you implying that a person who subscribes to the latter is automatically anti-semitic? " As it should be. "I won't deny this for a second, and I will continue to say that Holocaust deniers are totally out of line, but I still feel like it's a case of choosing the most recognizable incident while ignoring so many other atrocities that have occurred throughout history. " No, it really isn't. The Holocaust is different, as shown by the JSR quote that Arwon used. Additionally, the failure to educate others about other genocidal compaigns is simply an educational and regional failure. You're never going to be taugh about what happened here or there until university or you research it yourself. Most kids only need one example to see how evil the Holocaust is. Although it'd be really nice to have the policies of Imperial Japan and its whacked ideas taught at high school levels. But it won't happen. There isn't enough time in high school. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| This is about as productive as putting my foot into a food processsor. SS, you have used this thread as a way to attack me and keep on spouting the same senseless argument.
You may never be the aggressor, but you can sure be a pre-emptive prick. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Best:
Dawn of War - Dark Crusade ---> PLAY THIS NOW TAU FOR WIN Stubbs the Zombie ---> I only put this on the list because I was too poor to buy it for my Mac until 2006 (and it was launched in November 2005, so yeah. It fucking counts) Worst: The two games mentioned above are the only two I could play in great detail and such.  So the worst game is being a fucking student. |
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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - - Posts by Ziff |
But seriously, there's far more than 'just a handful', when you count dozens of good free games (NetHack ftw)