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Posted on 12-11-06 12:53 AM, in Wii Numbers, Xbox Live usernames ++ Link
Originally posted by Colin
Or you could just add fields to profiles which is a little more user-friendly.



Colin this board is hardly friendly.

Or user.
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Posted on 12-11-06 02:52 AM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
1. Christianity was founded prior to taxation. Which is the primary reason for the existence of scientology
2. Christianity makes charity highly wanted. As in, you should commit charity out of love and kindness. Scientology requires money for advancement in the faith.
3. Christianity spread in the underground in the Eastern Roman empire during the first and second centuries of the new millenium. First in Greece and small communities throughout the empire. It, simply due to chronology, makes it an Old Faith. It is also multi-interpretational without any real All Encompassing Singular Power Of Doctrine. This allows its adherents to have many views. Scientology is a directly enforced movement that doesn't allow for distinct debate.

Regardless of their mythological backings and the usual anti-religiousity of the wide, young, internet world (I myself am a secularist Catholic, but I'm not moronic enough to discount religions and such).
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Posted on 12-11-06 04:21 AM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
SS ->three of those are only issues in western society.

seriously. africa. doesn't give a fuck about gay rights. turkey. has more creationists than the US. most of teh rest of the world take their holy books as literal fact.
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Posted on 12-11-06 04:30 AM, in The Double Standard. Link
Originally posted by Danielle
The church during the 14th century supported men having multiple wives,



Can I get a source on this?
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Posted on 12-11-06 05:44 AM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
This thread:
1. Opening post with various flaws, starts discussion.
2. Opening firing points.
3. Minor debate over semantics between two kids on a message board.
4. Arwon makes a post relating to the nature of the anti-Catholic world due to a fuck-up in wording of Alastors that he does not have adequate ability to address.
5. Alastor notes that he shot himself in the foot. Whines like two year old about ignoring other peoples pertinant, and more proper posts.
6. Another minor deabte about semantics.
7. More of Alastors whining and incitement (had he been anyone else, he'd have been banned )
8. A bunch of mumbo-jumbo.
9. Back to semantics.

Wow! This thread accurately reflects the effective flow of religious doctrinary dialogue! Opa!
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Posted on 12-11-06 05:54 AM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
Bah! Differentiating between the two is just more semantics!
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Posted on 12-11-06 07:39 PM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
Crayola. Obviously you know nothing about scientology if you say it doesn't force you to buy anything.

You have to buy fucking courses to advance in the religion.

God, I hate apologists.
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Posted on 12-11-06 08:42 PM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
Well, if you had nothing to protect then why would you continue to spew out false facts?

But what did I mention about buying Dianetics or any of the other books of scientology? Oh, holy fucking shit. I didn't! I was talking about the "auditing" sessions that you NEED to buy to be a Scientologist. The courses and classes that you NEED to pay for to eventually be cleansed of the thetons.

But, to offset you little "Jesus was a scam artist" line I would like to put forward that he was seen as a radical, rather than a scam artist. Remember what happened to the lenders in the temple? Yup. But one thing. Jesus wasn't arrested riding around on a yacht with a bunch of kids.
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Posted on 12-11-06 09:46 PM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
Originally posted by Crayola
Christianity has almost the same thing which says we must not listen to the disbelievers (paraphrasing). Both of these instances of the religions in question are attempts to keep from losing members.


No it doesn't.

Also, then why are you so vociferously defending scientology and claiming we focus on the wrong parts?

Apologist.
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Posted on 12-11-06 10:46 PM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
I don't think I'm the one making a fool of myself here.

Any Bible verses that you post, I will refute them. Because knowledge in Christianity is a transitory agent that flows from God. Therefore all knowledge is inherently good and must be regarded for the purpose of learning - why do you think the European world was able to crawl out of the Dark Ages? Because Christianity, particularly the pre-1000 AD Celtic variant teaches that learning is good. You're confusing things with Protestant fundamentalism and extreme charistmaticism. The doctrine of the Catholic Church comes from a long line of scholars like Pope Sylvestor the Second that studied with Jews and Muslims. It has men like Gregory the Great that investigated pagan beliefs and rather than wholesale dismissing them as unimportant incorporated them into the Christian world view.

Also, the definition you're giving is inherently fatalist and negates various Christian thinkers like Soren Kikkergard. Various forms of Christian existentialism would refute that a supernatural power controls human destiny. Such predistinary ideas are more found in Calvinistic points of view.

Another point, how do you explain away Operation Snow White? How do you explain away the constant law suits against detractors of the Church of Scientology?

You're not playing the devil's advocate. You're just doing a piss poor job of prosletyzing.
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Posted on 12-12-06 12:19 AM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
I've stayed dead on topic. You've chosen to attack me on firvulous grounds.

You're just using this as a platform so that you can show us how ignorant you are of both faiths. You don't address a single issue that anyone else raises except your own little narrow-band of non-knowledge. And you know what? We have a right to scrutinize Scientology. Just like you have a right to scrutinize Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Jainism, Islam, Confucianism, Taoism, Shintoism, Zorastrianism and Yadism. The only thing is that in order to do so without looking like a drooling moron you have to use tact and fact. So far you've done nothing of the sort and proven yourself as bare as a mandrill's ass.
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Posted on 12-12-06 01:13 AM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
Okay then.

We're comparing the practises of the church from 1000 years ago to the practises of a modern institution? Alright, am I the only one that thinks this is completely illogical, farsical and anachronistic?

Also, thanks for showing your true stripes. Posting up a website based from a white supremist ideology!
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Posted on 12-12-06 01:57 AM, in The Double Standard. Link
Danielle, just for future reference. Be careful when quoting Augustine on Church affairs. He was an important Church Father, but to say that the Church was sanctioning polygamy is a massive jump in logic. Particularly when you're saying the "Church in the 14th century". Augustine wasn't around then.
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Posted on 12-12-06 02:18 AM, in The Double Standard. Link
Yeah, the master-slave relationship. One of which is dominant and the other submissive. I think that it applies to a lot of hetero and homo relationships. But I think that this old dichotomy is being subverted.
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Posted on 12-12-06 02:20 AM, in If you haven't seen "An Inconvenient Truth", DO IT. Link
Also, another fun link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6171053.stm
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Posted on 12-12-06 02:22 PM, in Christianity vs. Scientology Link
Ostara Publications is a subdivision of Storm Front. Which is a racial hate organization. It's not about white "history" it is about white glorification at the expense of subtle villification of other peoples.

As for Mediaeval art. That is only somewhat true. There are still many depictions of other things. Bayeux tapestry for instance...The paintings dedicated to the Poem of my Cid...Stuff like that.
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Posted on 12-15-06 03:09 AM, in Microsoft XNA Link
They're generating a potentially larger user base. They're not losing money.

I like this idea, and I think most companies should implement this.
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Posted on 12-16-06 06:28 PM, in Holy. Fucking. Shit. Link
The nerd rage in this thread has made me fall over laughing.
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Posted on 12-17-06 07:14 AM, in Microsoft XNA Link
HH, I own a Mac. I'd love for AWESOME FUCKING GAMES to come out on this instead of sitting around and playing Starcraft all the time.

What I'm saying is that, regardless of the platform, I want to see more and more and more content being generated, controlled, and creatively utilized by users and independant developers.

But, I'm sorry. I have this damned thing called intelligence. Because I don't buy into your droolingly retarded hyperbole.

-> "Have fun buying a new TV, VCR and stereo with each new game console"

Have fun being mocked...I mean...VCR? WTF.
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Posted on 12-17-06 04:48 PM, in So after a lot of thought... Link
I'm going to go off and give it a listen. I haven't really listened to REM for quite a while, they kind of got replaced in my music library by a lot of industrial stuff.
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