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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days |
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Arwon hasn't read past the first few posts and can be ignored.
emcee, you do not seem to appreciate the fine distinction between cannot be proven correct and can be proven incorrect. What I said was but an example. Research Scientology's text and tell me it's not absolutely riddled with holes. Personally, I don't care what a vast majority of christians believe, because a vast majority of people I do not take as intellectual equals. You are consistently misrepresenting my words - I am saying that at its very core, Christianity is not wrong, while at its very core, Scientology is wrong. It has nothing to do with selective belief, I merely reference the most sweeping beliefs and moral standards present in just about all variations of the faith. God created all. God's son, Jesus, or however you want to render His name, lived as a human and was a good man who performed miracles, or at the very least what have been interpreted as such. He was a good person, and He said that if people simply preached peace, did nothing to people they wouldn't want done to them, and treated others as they would tread themselves, then everything in the world would be fine. We have no proof that any of it is false, nor that any of it is true (save that Jesus existed, from which it can generally be assumed that he did preach this), but the same cannot be said of the core values of Scientology. Their text goes into specifics about things that cannot be. Perhaps my example was not the best example, but come on. Equating Scientology to Christianity is a patently ridiculous notion. (edited by Alastor on 12-11-06 04:05 AM) |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days |
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Originally posted by ArwonYes, but also. Stay out of the debate if you don't want to contribute. The name of this forum is "World Affairs/Debate," not "Whining/Making shit up." That is VERY far removed from the platonic ideal of debate. I realize that others do it, but it's not acceptable, so stop it. (edited by Alastor on 12-11-06 04:10 AM) (edited by Alastor on 12-11-06 04:11 AM) |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days |
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Originally posted by emceeThere is no proof that Jesus did not rise from the dead or walk on water, there is only that logic seems to say these are impossible. Which is, you know, kinda the point of miracles. Faith is not science; faith requires the inability to either prove nor disprove. When I said earlier that Jesus' actions were not necessarily miracles, I was referring to the fact that much of it is likely sentationalized but the core must be accurate. Even if I misspoke, this does not refute my point and an argument based on this is useless. No more points will be made on this subject, as an argument over semantics will always be pointless. However, you cannot strip any scientological belief from another, because they all come from the same source author. The stories in the bible were written by different people, at different times, and some sources are just more accurate than others. It is a given that miracles must exist, yes, else God couldn't have created the universe, despite this being inherent to the faith. That cannot be wrong for the faith to be right. But there is much more that the truth value of does not so much affect the truth of the religion as a whole. I'm just going to say it it, then. Evidence shows that no major atomic reactions occured near any volcanos in prehistoric times, much less the ones Hubbard specifically named. Yet, these sorts of things are easily traceable. Nothing is ever stated that would explain this away, nor can much be inferred, given what Hubbard has stated about the capabilities of those individuals involved in the space opera. But this, which is obviously false, comes from the same source as everything else, as a part of the same documents. Those in the space opera are not capable of miracles, while God and Jesus are. While they may defy physics, they are told as having the capability to do so. This is not true of the galactic confederacy, nor Xenu. The logical flaws with his story therefore cannot be explained away. Thus, your statement that you can provide counterarguments along these lines characters to each other is inherently flawed. |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days |
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You know the answer to that question, Arwon. I am going to say it again. There is no purpose in arguing solely to extend an argument.
I'm not going to deny that there is some good in Scientology's principles, but it completely overshadowed by the evil that has been commited by them. Even if you are a complete athiest who believes both are bullshit, you should at least be able to see that scientology was made to make money and that Christianity, if nothing else, has given countless people throughout history happiness. Scientology, meanwhile, directly opposes current medical belief, causing quite a bit of suffering. Equating them is such a manner is nonsense, and even if you reject theism you know this. (edited by Alastor on 12-11-06 05:25 AM) (edited by Alastor on 12-11-06 05:38 AM) |
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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Opposing stem-cell research at least has some moral backing to it, as in the end, it does essentially equate harvesting the building blocks of humans. I completely disagree, but I can at the very least see the argument. Contrast this to the statement that psychiatrists are evil minions of Xenu, and the implication that non-scientology-approved hospitals are to be avoided if at all possible, which has no real basis in moral outside of what they themselves have tied to their own stories.
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Most religions encourage donation and charity. Scientology demands you give them money, or you cannot advance in the religion. I do not want to hear anything about being "more efficient," because that big "mandatory" changes everything.
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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I play along as long as I can, but when we get to the point where I would be buying something, I say I've decided I'm not interested. They think they're getting a sale, but no, I just wasted their time. If I had just hung up they wouldn't have most much, but they lost many a potential sale because I kept them going.
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I would imagine they find this quite annoying.
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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I dunno, it seems obvious where it would be. It's the Wii's address, of course it'll be in the address book. (edited by Alastor on 12-11-06 06:47 AM)
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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Originally posted by Raccoon SamAnd Raccoon Sam is an anagram of Coca-Ransom.Originally posted by JDavis You're right, that is off-topic. (Also, screwing around with very basic computer stuff) (restricted) | (restricted) |
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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Colin is a lazy bones, eh?
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At least the Sanbone Trio aren't lazy. *Alastor nods confidently
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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Originally posted by richyawyingtmvWhat do you mean, 'easier'? Obviously it's easier to mirror the graphics and flip left and right in control than it is to redo every bloody animation, change the way doors line up, change enemy reactions, change the hitboxes, etc. (edited by Alastor on 12-12-06 11:05 AM)
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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Crayola
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No, you're wrong. The end.
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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Less than 15 million points left until the final rank is mine
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Here is a list of songs I have not yet S-Ranked on Hard ROCK!
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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What are you guys talking about.
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Big topics is still there. (edited by Alastor on 12-12-06 12:43 AM)
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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I am aware of this.
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But they weren't until you said that
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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No no no, I was trying to get the normals to think that staff still posted there |
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Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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They wanted it to be more accessible to right-handed people, who are in the majority. So, they made Link right-handed... And the easiest way to do that was to reflect the graphics (save the HUD and the text) across the Y axis.
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He is going to be confused because he's getting both and when he plays the Wii version after the Gamecube version everything will be in the wrong place.
Alastor |
Fearless Moderator Hero Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6300 days Last view: 6300 days
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Originally posted by HyperHacker... Hah. I remember that picture. |
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