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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| 9.5 at least. Stunning, weighty, relevant, brilliant. I think it gets a US release in a month or so and everyone damn well better go see it.
There's a lot to rave about in this movie. One thing I really liked was the way exposition was handled all the way through... no voice-overs taking you out of the film, lucid details given within the context of the movie. I always like piecing together backstory and context through referenced details in news-casts and newspaper articles and so forth, and it was done so brilliantly here. The overall feel of the movie was absolutely, chillingly believable, extrapolated from present-day concerns. Some really resonant images, notably Spoiler:
relating to the perscution of refugees (and foreigners in general) taken to sadly believable extremes with the cages, busses and forlorn elderly. The entrance to Bexhill was Guantanimo Bay, Abu Graib and Auschwitz in equal measure, and absolutely chilling. There were a lot of really nice touches throughout the film. I loved the random Pink Floyd reference in the Ark of Art scene. Spoiler: . So brilliantly appropriate a choice. The Actually that whole scene was awesome--I loved the image of Guernica hanging in the dining room Spoiler: . The way that the movie seemed obsessed with showing us that pathetically tragic and wrong-headed terrorists in their country house reminded me of the French Resistance. The different bands of refugees marching around during the uprising--one chanting "Allah Akhbar" while another group on another street waved a French flag and sang songs Spoiler:
elderly Germans in particular were getting deported... the occasional moment of dark humour. Ummm... soundtrack worked really well, though I don't think Sigur Ros was in it despite being in the trailer. The actors all seemed to work, Caine was a highlight, Moore Spoiler: was excellent. Kee (I don't remember her actor name) was weirdly unpleasant for some reason, but I guess she was just scared and overwhelmed.
died shockingly early but All the way through, as the movie turned from bleak dystopia into full-on thriller, it never once got boring. The cinematography was part of this... every scene was densely packed with rich visuals and there was always something to look at. Pretty much every line of dialogue was weighty and interesting and worth hearing, never once did a scene drag on or feel unnecessary which is quite a feat given the subject matter. I mean, for example Spoiler:
the school scene could have easily become a flat point in the film, but it hung around just long enough to make impact it needed to do... making explicit the link between the lack of children, the onset of despair, and the beginning of the collapse. And this became essential as more and more people ended up sacrificing themselves completely for this child, this symbol of hope. Such a scene of pure exposition could easily have gone on too long and dragged a bit, but no, it was another expertly handled aspect of the film, and strengthened it, if anything. The ending. Oh my god, the climactic scene, the scale of it, the length, it was almost impossible. Spoiler: mind-blowingly beautiful.
Part Saving Private Ryan, part Chechnya news footage, part Warsaw Uprising. Saving Private Ryan in scale, Full Metal Jacket in grittiness, and the entire scene shown through the perspective of Owen just running around in the middle of it, terrified and trying not to get killed. Then the sequence with the escape from the Fishes and Soldiers as they stare in disbelief was It wasn't quite perfect, if anything it could have been longer to spend a little more time on some of the really weighty issues it raised but mainly used as background, some characters could have gotten more screen time, and a little bit more exposition of certain things wouldn't have gone astray. I mean I'd liked to have known a little more about Spoiler: . But over all, it was smart, exciting, interesting, chillingly believable, and, despite the grime and the dirt, even beautiful.
the Human Project, for example |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| No. Yes. Maybe. Not really. Yes and no. | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Well I think the less you know about the plot the better, but the key things to know are it's a brilliant near-future dystopian thriller, and that the central plot point is that humanity has been completely infertile for 18 years--there's no children--and no-one knows why. | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| We could always turn this into an etymology debate!
Agnostic comes from the Greek word gnosis. Meaning they think it's unknowable. And probably don't care very much. See also "apatheist". Atheism by contrast is "without god" meaning either lack of belief or active disbelief. The distinction is important but not that important--you people are doing a rather ridiculous "either/or" thing here, there's multiple connotations... that's the slippery nature of language. The word used to practically be a synonym for "immoral" and even today it still carries very negative connotations in some places, notably the US. Silvershield is wrong that atheism necessarily implies active disbelief... this presupposes a theocentric society, where belief in God is the default position which people have to choose to disavow... whereas for many of us this simply wasn't the case. I'd wager, for example, that a sizable minority or slim majority of Australians my age are simply atheistic by default, they've simply always been because it's never occurred to them to try to be otherwise. |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| You seem to be having awful trends separating your own moral judgements from what is actually being said. Also, "quote war" dissections are a crutch, and a fucking annoying one at that.
The point about post-communism is not a defence of the state socialist system by any means, that has been thoroughly discredited. I'm talking in thoroughly amnoral and dispassionate terms here, there's no moral judgements being made--just a general point about how the transition in Eastern Europe was very problematic and not that successful. What I'm trying to get you to recognise is that there's been some very very serious problems in many parts of the post-communist world (and jesus, I haven't even mentioned the former Yugoslav countries, because really that's a whole other thread) and that these must be recognised as creating complexity and ambiguity... meaning they shouldn't be held up as models to follow. Are you even aware of how much disillusionment and nostalgia and conviction that nothing much has changed, exists in these places these days? The declining life expectancies? The crippling unemployment and de-industrialisation? The massive levels of corruption and instability? The rise of extreme political groups (with Russia, for example, lurching towards a mild sort of Fascism)? Until you come to terms with this stuff you shouldn't be triumphantly extolling the virtues of the process. You CANNOT just say "well they're nominally democratic now, therefore everything's awesome and we should try and make it happen everywhere". This attitude is at the very heart of the problem and why there's such skepticism about the neoconservative democratisation process. It speaks of a shocking unwillingness on the part of those who would crusade for change to actually learn from mistakes and try to apply these lessons elsewhere... it constantly strikes me as ironic how the people keenest on the democratic evangelism project are those least willing to look at past examples and precedents and try to actually learn from them. The mere fact that they have elections doesn't really count for that much when you consider how fucked many of their political and economic systems actualy are. Nobody with any familiarity with the region considers the majority of these states as successful examples of transition, or models to be followed, and yet here we have a lot of pie-in-the-sky Westerners wanting to assume everything's great there because hey, COLLAPSE OF COMMUNISM, and wanting to repeat the same mistakes elsewhere because they're blithely ignorant as to the problems on the ground, unwilling to take a closer look, and therefore blithely ignorant of how to avoid them in future. I'm not about to trust someone to know what they're talking about enough to do it again, if they're not willing to grapple with the complex realities of past transition projects. Platitudes about how "it won't be easy" are hardly comforting when the people mouthing them have NO IDEA what the precedents actually are. Spouting off about the living standards of the West is really missing the point quite badly, because other parts of the world are categorically NOT THE WEST and no mere adoption of a liberal democratic political system is going to fix them. If anything that's ass-backwards--putting the horse before the cart. You really are presenting a false dichotomy, a binary choice that simply does not exist, between western liberal democratic systems and Stalinist communism. Can we just be clear here. Can you state, in a few simple sentences, what exactly you expect to happen on the Korean peninsula? What do you do if the regime just collapses? What if China and South Korea close their borders to the millions of desperate refugees? What if South Korea doesn't want unification because it's too expensive? What if China decides it wants a role in the process, or simply marches its own troops into a collpased North Korean state? ...... Back to the Democratic Peace Theory, which you're pushing here. It's attractive but unfortunately it's suprious bunk, in several ways. Firstly, it confuses correlation with causation--it ignores the potential for other explanations. For example, maybe states don't go to war because they're similar (for example, autocratic Asian and South American states have also been quite peaceful, likewise Middle Eastern absolute monarchies) or maybe it's more to do with economic and social factors which have often coincided with democracy. Hell, a good Marxist theorist will tell you it's the interconnected interests of global capital keeping the peace, not democracy, which is actually reasonably compelling when you consider some of the nondemocratic states the democratic world is in a comfortable peace with (they'd argue that there's still plenty of conflict hidden at the bottom and in the margins of the system, however). Second, states that are democratic HAVE gone to war. The Spanish-American War was fought between two democracies. The Boer War had democratic combatants on both sides. In World War One both Germany and the UK had elected parliaments who voted overwhelmingly for war--Germany didn't turn into a virtual dictatorship until well into the war. Finland fought on the Axis side in World War 2. In the Arab-Israeli war of 1948 a couple of the Arab armies came from democratically elected leaderships and the UK gave unofficial support to the Arabs. Pakistan and India have fought each other at times when both were democracies. Likewise Peru and Ecuador. Lebanon and Israel are both democracies and they fought each other this year. A democratic Turkey has fought in a democratic Cyprus and continues to fight its Kurdish population within its own country. Colombia has been democratic for most of its blood-soaked history (which is bizzare to say the least) and yet it's seen more or less constrant internal warfare for at least 60 years. Iceland and the UK have come to naval blows over fish, likewise, I'm pretty sure that Spain and Canada have. Israel and the Palestinian Authority are both, surprisingly enough, democracies, too. Third, as has no doubt been illustrated by this list, there's so many definitional issues and other factors potentially at play in any conflict situation that it's extremely problematic to attribute any given political situation to democracy or lack there-of. It comes back to the old chestnut about what is a democracy... or what a war is, for that matter. Fourth, there is the problem of praxis. Yes, praxis--the nexus between theory and action. EVEN IF we accept that pre-existing democracies don't go to war much, there's still the "so what?" question. We've seen repeatedly, over and over again, all over the world, how bloody difficult it is to create democracy from outside in societies without traditions of democracy. Because, as alluded to previously, it's very backwards to assume that creating democracy will lead to a successful society... surely it's the reverse. The democratic peace theory implies that the appropriate foreign policy is to evangelise democracy all over the world, damn the consequences... but unfortuantely this doesn't seem to work very well, because a state's internal dynamics are much stronger influences than any external pressures. In response to the argument that exporting democracy isn't viable you said "Democracy has not worked immediately everywhere it’s been tried, but it has worked often" which misses a fundamental distinction between democracy from within and democracy from without. Which is, when we're talking about the neo-conservative democratisation project, is the essential distinction. ..... Which leads me, again, into the problems of nation-building. The only successful example you've come up with is the Marshall Plan after World War 2. Would that I could believe there was another Marshall Plan in the works for anyone, anywhere. The Marshall Plan was fundamentally different than any concievable circumstance in the modern world. The economic systems, political contet, internal dynamics of the target regimes, were all totally, completely different. Firstly, there was a massive degree of self-interest that is lacking in any contemporary scenario. Politically, there was the need to counter Communist influence, especially in places where the entire pre-war political elite, both liberal and conservative was tainted by collaberation, while the Communists were in many places heroes of the resistance and anti-fascist fight. There is no such imperative in any concievable contemporary context. Additional was the economic incentie... the strength of the American economy and its status as an exporting power. The Marshall Plan was incredibly expensive, and the US was basically able to afford it because they were in a massive war-boom and needed markets. By contrast, the US is these days an importing nation and nowhere near capable of similar outlays. Second, the nations of Europe already had advanced capitalist systems before the war and there was not a whole lot of need for structural adjustment tpye dealies, or for creating capital for development out of nothing. Third, the global economy is completely different now. After 1945 the US ended up presiding over a system of fixed exchange rates, the vaunted Bretton Woods system which was a way for the US to ensure financial stability for the recovering countries. This led to the boom in the 50s and 60s but collapsed in the 1970s and this system does not exist today in our globalised trade environment of floating exchange rates, market fundamentalism, and so forth. The rather ruthless prevailing economic orthodoxy these days is far less beneficial to helping developing countries than in the Marshall Plan era. The point of all this is that the post-WW2 rebuilding projects, as wonderfully successful as they were, have zero relevance as precedents to any concievable contemporary situation and you need to find a better analogy if you're going to argue that we should be seeking to spread democracy and so forth. ..... The essential point here is that the neoconservative democratisation project has been discredited. What keeps happening is people keep pointing out the numerous problems and basic realities of power politics and the response is to a) spout off about how evil someone is, how people are dying, etc etc, b) reassure us how it'll all work out this time and c) accuse you of hating America. Unattractive histrionics. It's wonderful to be all hand-wringing and bleeding heart and go on and on and on about the poor huddled masses getting abused by their nasty leaderships, and obviously no-one wants this shit to continue, but it's quite another thing to actually be able to do anything constructive about it. If wishes were horses, you know the rest. Hasn't Iraq taught you that good intentions and impatience aren't enough to fix things? Nobody is happy that the North Korean situation has no good solution, but then, the world's a pretty shitty place and you don't have a damn monopoly on being concerned about the problems of the world, nobody's got a good solution to the problems in the Congo, either. Or the dictatorships in Burma, Uzbekistan, Syria, Belarus, Zimbabwe, etc etc etc. Or AIDS in Africa. Or climate change. Moreover, it's really very insulting that you feel the need to keep telling us that North Korea is, in fact, a shitty place to live. Don't you think that's KIND OF AN ASSUMED GIVEN? ..... Actually, I kind of agree that it's possible to intervene in Darfur to good effect. Different situation. Maybe I'll start a thread on it. (edited by Arwon on 10-21-06 10:37 AM) |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Actually, given that this is the internet and we're only about half of us Americans, I'd argue that the median political view isn't particularly leftish at all. If this were a country club in Texas then certainly this is the case... but as it stands the spread of views is about what is to be expected from a forum like this. | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| It's interesting to note the prevalence of "hopes" and "shoulds" when confronted with the numerous perils of the situation, coupled with the assumption of the ability for there to be direct American control of the situation and assumption that South Korea will go along with rapid unification and using them as a political pawn against Chinese influence. Characteristic neoconservative extreme optimism I guess. | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| The answer, SS, is basically both. It'd be brilliant if it wasn't the case, but Political Realism and cynicism is still the dominant mode of thought in international security and I don't think you could point to one example of a purely or even mainly moralistic foreign policy adventure that worked. East Timor, Haiti and Bosnia are probably the best examples and those countries are still basket-cases...
It's not that morality has no place, it's just that it has to be subordinated to other things, especially in dangerous situations. Politics is the art of the possible, and "We have to do SOMTHING" only goes so far. AT BEST in the present climate you can hope for either the coincidence of morality and power-politics considerations, or a vaguely moral stance when there's very little power-political issues at play (such as in East Timor and Bosnia), which in an area like NE Asia isn't the case. Especially with a regime like the current US administration--no way are we going to trust them to do anything so difficult and complicated. NE Asia with its precarious security situation, especially the prickly Chinese-Korean-Japanese relationship, is not the ideal venue for any sort of idealistic neoconservative "regime change" experiment. NK's one of the worst choices of venue. That's kinda why both South Korea and China would really rather live with the North Korean regime rather than push them too hard, even if they have nukes. There's no other choice. Koryo is trying desperately to argue that there is, he is trying to establish an imminent imperative for aggressive pressure, in the face of all reality and sense, basically using a mixture of moral outrage and the argument that China is evil and NK will use its weapons aggressively. Lots of inappropriate comparisons to Hitler and 1939 and the assumption that the alternative is OMG APPEASEMENT. We on the other hand are arguing that this nonsense and, regrettably, seeking regime change is the greater of two fairly sizable evils because it will A, piss everyone off and B, if it works, destabilise South Korea (and potentially, Northeast China) dramatically. And that's not even discussing the morality of sanctions, which is dubious at best. I might have to dig up an Economist article I read recently about the history of sanctions and when they do and don't work. When I've got more time I'm probably going to come back and get all Hans J Morgenthau and post about the times where naivity and optimism and good intentions and morality have directly fucked things up through the law of unintended consequences. I feel dirty given my distaste of Realist (cynicism, amorality, power-politics) theory, but it's preferable to misguided neoconservative crusading adventurism. Right now though, I have to go to an International Security lecture on, ironically enough, the Iraq war... (edited by Arwon on 10-22-06 11:11 PM) |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Actually I disagree with you in tha regard, Emcee. In the unlikely occurrance that NK was stupid enough to start a war, it'd probably be best to roll in and occupy it if at all feasible. I just don't think it's a circumstance we should be trying to make more likely. This is, of course, assuming Chinese reluctant acceptance, which seems a reasonably likely development in any circumstance that actually saw the North attack the South. The Chinese would probably extract concessions on the form of post-war governance but that'd be a fair price, I should think.
... As for China and openness... well, Chinese development is interesting. On the one hand, it offers the single most successful example of reforming a Communist economy and the best model for countries like North Korea and Cuba to follow. On the other hand, the assumptions about the links between prosperity, market economics and freedom of information may not be accurate as regards China. Remember, China is an old, old civilisation with a long history of strong, bureaucratic, top-down rule and collectivist philosophies, and moreover, they thought of Adam Smith's ideas at least 500 years ago with no connection to ideas of liberty or freedom. It's entirely likely that the link between enlightenment philosophies of individual autonomy and free market economics was entirely by chance in the West and their connection is thus overstated in Western discourse. Assuming the Chinese governments maintain growth and reasonable satisfaction there's every chance it can survive a a single party state--I mean just look at Singapore for an example of a successful authoritarian single-party state with a high level of economic development and satisfaction. The biggest worry, probably, is the masses of rural poor--another feature of Chinese history is rural uprisings. Finally, on sanctions, from the Economist newspaper (subscription only link):
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Ah, see now we're back to the start and I can call Koryo a funhouse mirror version of a Trotskyist. | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Yeah, my best mate's doing a Bachelor of Psych right now, I'm mainly just posting to echo the "get a masters" thing--there's a glut of Bachelors of Psych out there not doing much, partly because they're relatively easy to get as far as degrees go--low entrance marks and I guess it sounds both interesting and useful to a lot of people. That said, based onwhat I've heard from people at 3 different unis... there's a lot of dumb and/or crazy people studying psychology, so if you're halfway competent you'll do well.
What do you mean "what do I study in college?" -- I don't really understand American universities and their talks of "majors" and stuff--I get the impression it's open slather to take any courses from anywhere you want and thne you have to piece together a coherent degree from that mess. Wouldn't you just, rather obviously, take psych classes? (edited by Arwon on 10-25-06 08:59 AM) |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Alternatives? How about sticking to the conventions of diplomacy and recognising the limits of one's power and the fact that actions have consequences and sometimes we can't act like bloody superheroes and save everyone from evil?
Since when has "spreading democracy" ever been a major foreign policy imperative or a workable one? It's fantasy, it's simplistic and it's juvenile, and you keep making all these assumptions about democracies being inhernetly good and other governments being inherently evil and aggressive. This line is instructive of the massive cognitive leaps being made here: "Arwan (sic) and PSA at least are content to do really nothing (a few sanctions at best). North Korea isn't likely to go democratic on its own." Note the leap straight to "going democratic" as, in Koryo's mind, the only concievable possibility worth exploring. Very telling. Aside from a lot of inappropriate comparisons to the post-WW2 situation there hasn't been a lot of talk about all the successful examples of going into other countries and making them democracies. Has Iraq taught you nothing? All I can think is thank god the idea is going out of fashion. Exporting political systems does not work. (edited by Arwon on 10-25-06 07:18 PM) |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Well they *are* kinda slouching towards a mild sort of fascism... | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Well? I suspect there's a massive change in the air that will sweep any half-way competent liberal Democrat into the White House in 2008 (hopefully Obama or Gore!), I think it's really a Carter type moment of people wanting someone as different as possible to what they've had... but I don't think the Dems will be there just yet. I don't think they can swing both houses given the disgustingly high incumbency rate in the congressional system. Dems to pinch the House and gain ground, but not enough, in the Senate. Hopefully will result in a whole raft of committees and hearings into some of the insanity of the last 6 years and the reigning in of some of the excesses. (edited by Arwon on 10-26-06 02:00 AM) (edited by Arwon on 10-26-06 02:15 AM) |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Maybe it's just me, but "they're all bastards" strikes me as a cop-out. I'm not sure aloofness and neutrality between the parties is actually morally defensible right now... it seems like it's just irresponsible.
I mean, in 2000 it was possible to claim of Bush and Gore that there was no difference between the two candidates. Is that really still possible? (edited by Arwon on 10-26-06 02:36 AM) |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Ayup. That's when we get into nasty definitional issues. Is Singapore democratic? Is Jordan? Israel? Venezuela? Thailand? Malaysia? the Solomon Islands? | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| It's sort of different, but mainly in emphasis rather than structure I think. In terms of pure self-identification, there's somewhat more emphasis on being an Arts Student or a Science student or a Commerce student, less so than on what you major in. I think that's a function of the way entry into university works. Calling oneself a "politics major" sounds odd to me when Americans here do it... to me they're Arts students. Likewise, here you'd simply be a Psych Student rather than a "psychology major" or whatever. (Also, depending on the uni, psychology is either part of Science or Arts... at my Uni there's a distinction between a Bachelor of Science majoring in Psych which is a 3 year program, and a more prestigious Bachelor of Psychology which is basically the same thing but with a 4th year which is inherently an honours year, and if you don't qualify, you just get the Science degree... the APA here requires at least a bachelors with honours to be a practising clinical psychologist. This is all from my flatmate who's relieved that he has the marks to do the 4th year.)
But then psychology is weird as far as subjects go, being an inherently applied and interdisciplinary field. All the cognition related stuff really is (see also: linguistics, artificial intelligence, etc). Anyways, here when you first apply to uni* you go into a specific program rather than just generally entering the university... there's nothing inherently preventing you from taking outside classes but it's silly to do so. So you enter, say, the Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Psychology or Bachelor of Petroleum Engineering or whatever program with a reasonable proscribed direction and path-of-least-resistance to follow. Your first-year courses are mostly set in stone as grounders, then after that you can mess around with them, transfer degrees, choose majors, and so forth. So the question of "what do i study if i want to study psychology" is doesn't make sense to me because when you enroll in Uni here, you would enroll in the Bachelor of Psychology program specifically. So here, the answer to "what do i study if i want to study psychology" is "you study psychology". ---- *Here, university applications are done through a single centralised body, you indicate preferences for course and university and rank them. You get offered a place in the highest preference you qualify for through your exam marks (it's a percentile ranking, from 99.95 down to "less than 30"). In theory entry into any university is through supply and demand based on marks, but in practise the elite schools have more resources and are good at working the system to boost marks. Hence the top private and selective schools monopolising the top percentiles and thus entry into the more sought-after, prestigious or limited-places courses. Anyways, in my case, my first preference was Communications at Sydney Uni and my second was International Studies at UNSW, but the entry requirement for Communications was something like the 98th percentile whereas I got 92.1 and the BInst entry cutoff in my year was about 91... So I got into UNSW's Bachelor of International Studies instead of having to lump for Communications at Newcastle. The key point here, as relates to the topic, is that entry to university here is tied to the specific course program, not the overall institution. |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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Sort of. That applies outside of the area considered, however wrongly, to be part of the historical Chinese nation, of course. Places like Tibet and Turkestan and Mongolia and so forth. Of course the question is... would China actually follow through on defining the ancient Koguryo kingdom including both North Korea and part of Manchuria, as historically Chinese, with an attempt to expand? Probably not, but attempts by China to claim Koguryo (since it principally developed in Northwest China) as part of its multi-thnic identity have caused some tension between China and SK recently. (edited by Arwon on 10-26-06 04:41 AM) |
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Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| Well, natch, but the thing is there's such a massive gap between the two evils right now. Orders of magnitude. | |||
Arwon![]() Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 5909 days Last view: 5909 days |
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| I love that. "By most statistics, an enormous percentage of America is "religious," but [...] in name only".
You hear this a lot from Christians. The best is when right-wing fundamentalists take a narrow view of who is and isn't a Christian, such that they accuse significant numbers of other people of not being religous.... but then, Christian leaders still claim to be part of a moral majority in spite of the fact that they recognise a large part of that majority isn't actually religious. I'm not accusing you of this by any means, SS, but I just want you to bear this in mind the next time you're tempted to invoke a "moral majority" type argument in the name of the alleged vast numbers of faithful. |
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