Originally posted by Arwon

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I actually agree with Koryo, it's great that he's gone and a wonderful symbol of change... but from the point of view of the Republican bunker, it's a tactical blunder. Once the Democratic Inquisition really kicks off, they're gonna be out for blood and Bush has just let his best scapegoat go. Who's he going to sacrifice to appease them later on now that Rumsfed is gone?

My suspicion is that this was much more Rumsfeld's doing than pressure from above.

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Originally posted by Toxic

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Stevens is a piece of shit. There is nothing redeeming about him. He's was the worst TE in his draft, he has poor hands, and he's a dirty player. They should just kick him out of the league.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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I could've SWORN that it was Plato's Republic.

And I mean, no it is no worry when we have crazies in our army! Nop harm or worry of homegrown right wingers trained in the craziness at all! Let's just ignore the recent Belgian example.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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You know...I'm just not going to argue with you on that point. Because I'm...I'm not going to lie. I'm objectively right. You're just wrong. I don't think you need to apologize for being wrong. It just happens. Plato wrote it as a useage of the Socratic dialogue to further his ideas. In it the revered Socrates is merely a character who plays a role in it. All things are created by Plato for the usage and furtherance of his philosophical ideology. Socrates' role is there alright...except he'd been dead for quite a while before the book was written. So...yeah. Don't be sorry.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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Besides...How do you know anything about anywhere else but America. You don't live there. I fail to see the logic in how that transmits knowledge.

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Originally posted by Darkdata.ink

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Originally posted by NintendoFB

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Originally posted by Colin

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A game music archive (as in a site JUST devoted to music) would be a good start.

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Like VGMusic or Galbadia Hotel? I don't like VGMusic that much for being MIDI and Galbadia Hotel Could have a much better variety, but I guess that's all we got to work with. Torrents always work for Video Game music
(Ok, I'm whoring out torrents too much, I'll stop now.)

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NONONONONONOON BAD NintendoFB
Game music that comes from the game it's self in formats like spc
that can be played with special plugins. They are a small size sound great and I can download them fast (dial-up woo )

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Originally posted by Snow Tomato

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I can firmly attest that you cannot participate in this conversation if you have never tried it. You have no idea of it, and nothing to base your absurd claims on. It is more a detriment to society to keep this drug criminalized. So many people get busted for something that is honestly not even as bad as alcohol. (see: liver disease, alcohol blood poisoning, vomiting, violence and diabetes). A ridiculous number of people participate in this activity, I'd say well over half of all Americans. We wouldn't have illegal drug smuggling, or as many drug related deaths, mob hits.. and if the government regulated it's usage there'd be no risk of picking up something that's laced and possibly actually harmful. We are not the minority, and should not be treated as second class, lowlife citizens. We shouldn't feel bad about it, and we shouldn't have to hide our shame from the world. It's absolutely absurd.

Oh yeah... watch out for those crazy kids running off to Wendy's and buying out all the visine at the local CVS. That's the real public enemy number one!! Watch out!

And people who are addicted to really really harmful drugs shouldn't be treated like criminals. Who's honestly going to get off of crack in prison? They should be checked into a hospital, nursed back to good health and go through intensive rehab. This idea that people who are addicted to harmful drugs are criminals... is ridiculous. They have a dependancy problem, a severely addiction prone additude and they need help not handcuffs. They need to be shown how to make a better life for themselves, so that harmful activities don't become second nature. Most drug abusers are poor or vagrant. If we helped these people instead of having a policy that denies them housing, welfare and healthcare... America would be safer. Obviously things like crack and such should remain illegal, as they are actually harmful... but when an addict is found he or she shouldn't be handcuffed by a cop and thrown into jail... they need to be helped. Jesus would help them.

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Originally posted by Snow Tomato

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You're assuming a number of things in your arguement.

1. Drugs will definitely, without doubt, destroy your entire life.
2. That I was talking about Drug Dealers. Drug Dealers and users are completely different. I'm talking about a system where there would be no need for Drug Dealers and the violent crimes they do commit. I'm talking about a system in which the government controls the drugs. It would be far less dangerous.
3. That all people who do drugs want to destroy their lives.
4. That drugs, not guns.. are the problem.

There's a big difference between a person who casually smokes pot for fun, and a person who is addicted to heroine. All drug users cannot be lumped into the same pile. Just as tylonol differs from oxycontin. Marijuana differs from cocaine.

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Originally posted by Snow Tomato

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And I think if you're so vehemently opposed to someone who's high getting their hands on a gun, you should look to seek stronger gun control laws. You should also consider that a majority of killings, shootings, murders etc. happen when the murderer is sober. We have the highest number of gun related deaths in the entire world. Roughly 11,000 per year. When in the Netherlands, where the government has sanctioned that drugs are legal.. the ratio of the number of gun relation deaths is much, much lower. Europe is far less involved with the "war on drugs", and their gun related deaths are thousands below ours. It's a separate issue completely.

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Originally posted by Snow Tomato

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I'm saying there is absolutely no correlation between gun related homicides, stabbings, murders and drug usage. You can argue that a majority of violent crimes happen in poor areas, with high drug usage. I would argue that this is because of the shitty way we treat the poor. You are a criminal the same if you stab someone, as if you smoke pot. So, why not act like a criminal?

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Originally posted by Snow Tomato

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It's that same reactionary, authoritative, vindictive additude that causes people to lash out. When people are down on their luck they do one of two things. They struggle to make themselves better [...] "What you did is wrong. So we're sending you to jail, a horrible place where all the wrong people go."... they'll continue to be wrong... because.. that is what they are.

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Originally posted by Snow Tomato

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But, getting back to the subject of drug use. There's one point I didn't address. Because you smoke pot doesn't mean you're throwing away your whole future. Take me for example. I enjoy it as a party enhancer, it's a fun time for me. I don't have to be on it to have fun.. because if I did.. I'd need it everyday.. and that's certainly not the case. I maintain well over a 90 average in school, and it looks like I'm going to have a bright future ahead of me. I'm clearly intelligent, not a genious... but I'm certainly not the traditional "pothead, stoner, degenerate" stereotype.. I participate in extracirricular activities, I have a job and I'm a productive member of society.

Not all people abuse drugs. Not all people are ruining their lives because they smoke up.. not all people smoke because they have an innate urge to "go down the wrong path". Just as guns are legal for those who use them responsibly. Marijuana should be legal for those who use it responsibly. People are going to use both guns and marijuana irresponsibly anyway, whether they're legal or illegal... but it's extremely immoral and extremely irrational to punish the people who use it responsibly.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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Seriously, tell me...what do you know about marijuana DD16? I mean, I'm looking at the facts here...and it is pointing to very little. Hallucinations? To reach that you'd need unbelievably high doses and and unbelievably low body tolerance (which usually results in the person falling asleep or vomiting before hallucinating). I'm looking through your post and I'm looking at the words of someone who has a vendetta against pot because mommy and daddy sat them down to watch Devil's Harvest or something. But then again, I don't look down at pot heads. Many of the most successful people I know in life enjoy marijuana...and I'd mention some names...but I think we all love and <3 anonymity.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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As for your friends. I've grown up in an area where I think I had...2 friends who never did pot [...] Nobody has ever really spoken of hallucinations. Is it possible your friends are doing laced marijuana (pretty rare), salvia divinorum (rarer still in some areas of the states), or another drug and mistaking it for marijuana?

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Originally posted by Dictionary

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hal‧lu‧ci‧na‧tion  /həˌlusəˈneɪʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[huh-loo-suh-ney-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a sensory experience of something that does not exist outside the mind, caused by various physical and mental disorders, or by reaction to certain toxic substances, and usually manifested as visual or auditory images.
2. the sensation caused by a hallucinatory condition or the object or scene visualized.
3. a false notion, belief, or impression; illusion; delusion.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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"I disagree with your statement about mommy and daddy forcing him to watch biased propaganda."
- That's what his words sound like, though. A subtle rehash of the hilarious 1930s-50s anti-marijuana propoganda that has bubbled up through the ages in the constant stream of misinformation passed on the public by a government that is ideologically driven to attack the problem of drugs rather than trying to deal with it in a reasonable way.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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edit: wow, way to defend with a post-haste argument that discredits all you said and chalks up one of your primary arguments to a "childhood exaggeration". If you're going to try to attack something, don't dodge with such illogical measures.

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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I'm sick of arguing with kids like this. There is a total of two contributed drops in the idea bucket from that side of the room. I think I'm just going to stick to the debate team and save some time I can toss at my essays.

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Originally posted by Danielle

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(we're making fun of you lakithunder)

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Originally posted by Kamek

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Wait, what?

6 replies popped up in this topic in under 2 minutes.

No wonder I never post here. This place is too fast-paced and too random.

Oh, and we should stab him with a rubber ball.

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Originally posted by Yoshi Dude

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Originally posted by Dr_Death16

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Originally posted by Kamek

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Wait, what?

6 replies popped up in this topic in under 2 minutes.

No wonder I never post here. This place is too fast-paced and too random.

Oh, and we should stab him with a rubber ball.

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You forgot spammy and silly.

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can you please eleborate I can't figure out what you're implying ??

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Originally posted by The Holy Book of lolthunder

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lordthunder will lead the way
there is nothing to be scared of
he is our savior

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Originally posted by Colin

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My god... what a frigging mistake that forum was.

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