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Posted on 02-05-06 10:34 PM Link | Quote
For my own purposes, I'm creating a language of my own. I won't bore you with the why or the history. I'm creating this topic in Modern Art because I don't think it fits at General Chat, and certainly not WA/D or OC. Besides, "art" includes literature, yes?

Now, I have a few questions, but I must first list the ten vowels I've identified and give examples.

( ae ) pay
( ah ) sat
( ee ) glee
( eh ) bet
( aw ) saw
( ih ) pith
( uh ) sun
( oh ) flow
( oo ) book
( uu ) flute

What I'm trying to do is list "independant" vowels -- those which consist of one and only one sound. The above list has a few problems. First, I'm not sure if ae is actually an independant vowel. In the word "pay," is it really a p-sound and an ae-sound? Or is it a p-sound, an eh-sound and an ee-sound? While the other nine cannot be divided further, ae seems like it could be comprised of eh and ee. This problem is further compounded by the fact that there might be an ai sound. The answer to that is the answer to the question, "Do the words say and pain have the different vowels in them?" I'm just not sure.

Take this time to note that the English oh is almost always paired with a closing w-sound. Know, show, blow, even in words which lack a 'w' in the spelling such as so, go. The Spanish, Japanese and a few other languages pronounce oh shorter, with no paired w-sound. I can't explain how the "pure" oh sounds, you have to hear it spoken. In either case, I wonder if oh and oh+w are seperate vowels, or if the second does indeed merely have a consonant attached.

I'll let us mull over that for awhile before proceeding with any more specific concerns. One last thing, though; I cannot make any sense of the explinations of the IPA on Wikipedia. I've tried repeatedly to understand the concepts of "height" and "backness" but it makes utterly no sense to me. Even navigating the list of vowels boggled my mind, especially since half of them sound identical to each other. In any case, if you happen to be a certified linguist or are simply able to make sense of the IPA, would you kindly give me examples of all the vowels identified on the afforementioned list?
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