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Rom Manic









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Posted on 08-22-06 03:47 PM Link | Quote
We really have no reason that a Canadian Muslim has any reason to attack the country it lives in. However, the propaganda of Al Quaeda can spread very quickly and easily in the more damaged parts of the world, and to those that are hopeless that seek hope.

All in all, Racial Profiling wouldn't happen if we saw humans as humans. But what would that do to our diversity?
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Posted on 08-22-06 04:38 PM Link | Quote
Al Qaeda has been supplanted by the individual, unaffiliated cell.
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Posted on 08-22-06 10:34 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Rom Manic
But what would that do to our diversity?


It would be strengthened in the sense that people would not be excluded for being different but instead have their cultures respected while still being treated on a familiar level.
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Posted on 08-23-06 12:34 PM Link | Quote
I'm having a hard time coming up with a decent source for why profiling works for Israel and how they go about doing it. If memory serves, I believe that no airliner going out of Israel has ever been highjacked, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Posted on 08-23-06 04:21 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by sandrocklq
I'm having a hard time coming up with a decent source for why profiling works for Israel and how they go about doing it. If memory serves, I believe that no airliner going out of Israel has ever been highjacked, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


Whether that's true or not doesn't really prove that racial profiling is the reason, I'm sure Israel uses various security measures to prevent terrorist from hijacking or blowing up planes.
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Since: 12-03-05
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Posted on 08-24-06 10:28 PM Link | Quote
"No, it's the fact that it's a "Lock them away for two years, and now they'll be better" policy. Either we need harsher punishments for like, violence and such, or something."

What we need is less lynch-mob mentality towards people who commit a crime, and more trying to help people to overcome whatever problems caused them to commit the crime in the 1st place. Once we lock someone up for years in a monster factory with no honest attempt at rehabilitation, how is it surprising that the man returns to us as a monster? Rehabiliation wont work on every single criminal, but it does work alot better than what we do right now. We as a society are extremely focused on the victim, and helping the victim, and thats great, but the offender probably needs help to. Helping the offender to become a decent person prevents future victims. Locking him away for 2 years (or however long) and treating him like sub-human garbage the whole time makes future victims more likely.

" I wouldn't mind my bags being searched if it made everyone else on the plane feel safer. Like if you're innocent.. it shouldn't really be a problem."

It would bother me greatly if i was being singled out for some bullshit (like searching my bags), just because of my race. Over time it could fuel a persecution complex amongst the race which is being singled out. Once you feel like nobody trusts you and you are under constant suspicion for things which are out of your control, that can be used as justification for committing crimes. You might figure "fuck it, this is what they all expect from me anyway...".
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-25-06 12:31 AM Link | Quote
One solution to profiling is simple: Search everyone. Do a full and complete search of absoloutly everyone. If EVERYONE is suspected, noone will feel singled out.

Note: For those of you unaquainted with my style of making outlandish suggestions, don't take this post too seriously. I'm well aware that the costs of fully searching everyone would be astronomical and would put the whole airline industry out of buisness.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-25-06 10:11 AM Link | Quote
What really blows about that statement is that I entered this thread after reading the entire thing just to say that searching everyone would be more efficient and would let far less crime sift through the searches than racial profiling, and ||bass beat me to it, but he cast it in a completely different light than I did.

I fail to see what would be so astronomically expensive about finding a method to standardize searches for everyone's equipment and person: We have metal detectors, we have baggage checking for everyone, we have carryon scanning. We checked everyone just after the 9/11 attacks, why not just keep up the good work? If anything, the government could cover the costs in the name of airline security; if they're so concerned about it, why not do something about it?
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Posted on 08-25-06 10:26 AM Link | Quote
I wouldn't be opposed to them checking everyone but its a pipe dream due to the inefficency of the TSA. I did see the one device on the news that exposes the whole body. Wonder how safe it is and if it would detect things that you swallowed.
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