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Metal Man88

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Posted on 11-30-06 09:55 PM, in PETA video Link
Peta should stop killing their own animals before they start telling them to stop that stuff.

Peta Kills Animals



While what's in that video is bad, PETA is run by hypocrites who hate humanity. Thusly their argument is extreme, and they cannot appreciate in-betweens.


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Metal Man88

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Posted on 12-01-06 02:56 AM, in Same-Sex Classrooms Link
Thomas More disagrees. And he's got an entire work of literature to back himself up.

*Hurls a book at the idea* Like so many other ideas that are sexist, this one deserves to die too.
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Posted on 12-01-06 09:06 PM, in PETA video Link
Originally posted by l0rca


I never seen Alpha Centauri. But I think for the most part, the PETA video is not a very skewed movie, so far as propaganda goes. The narrator does request at the end for the viewer to try and become a vegetarian, but that's about it.




The fact that it has the PETA name anywhere on it automatically associates it with the anti-human beliefs they have. If it was made by someone else, perhaps, closer to Morgan Spurlock than the ELFs and other maniacs, then yes, I would say it was unbiased.

Originally posted by l0rca

I agree that PETA's principles and actions are also unethical, but that wasn't what I was pining for in this thread. I did not specifically state a point in this thread. I was hoping the more intelligent members of this board would draw my same conclusion and reply with it here, simply for discussion's sake, and hopefully to help spread empathy and knowledge of the unethical slaughter of animals for food. Skreename did a fine job in my opinion.



Then don't link a video made by them. I think there's at least one non-PETA made video of the same disgusting stuff, which shows it for informational, unbiased use rather than gross-out mentality followed by "become Vegetarian." Furthermore, not agreeing with you does not make me dumb; I would rather say it is naive to think the intelligent members of this board would see it and automatically agree with you.

If anything, I'd expect them to disagree, as the more intelligent one is, the more likely they are to either find problems with your argument or want to refine it from a generic video and statement. I had an entire Engliash 1A class that focused on the unethical nature of food production, and fully agree it can be barbaric at times, including to the humans involved. That said, I feel the usage of such footage extreme.


Originally posted by l0rca

But despite, I think the point was indeed lost in this thread. Some of the posts here were negatively reactionary and dismissive. I don't know if this is because some of the repliers in this post did not entertain the video, or because their principles and judgment override any sympathy.



Your original post was too vague and your use of PETA caused a backlash against them. PETA is worse than nothing; bring them up and you'll get anti-ethics speeches sooner or later. That said, I have plenty of sympathy for animals, but I don't think it's ethical to try to trick people into supporting them with disgusting videos. They should be given a more neutral medium.

Originally posted by l0rca

I do not think that anyone here is stupid enough to argue that we should strive to make an animal's wildlife survival more humane in terms of predator and prey, but it seems in this post that other posters do believe there are some here who are stupid enough to believe this, and took to arguing against that. PETA itself, insofar as I know, is not trying to save animals in the wild from their predators for the lone sake of their horrible deaths.



No, PETA is killing puppies and kittens and supporting terrorists, who kill humans. Furthermore, your vague post lead some people to that conclusion; if anything is lacking effort, it was your first post, not the people trying to make sense of it.

Originally posted by l0rca

In a measurement of harshness, a death in the wild does not equate to the deaths in the video. These animals are not caught after living a duration of their lives and killed. They are bred, many genetically, and live lives of incredible suffering, and deaths of horror; in my opinion, a horror greater than that of a predator's.

Personally, I would prefer to have one day, after living my life until now, 21 years, find myself in the Sahara, being mawed and eaten alive by lions, than to find myself born one day, genetically altered to be horribly fat, live amongst the decaying smell of my brethren, have my penis removed with with a clamp and shears, transported one day through the cold, and held by rope downside-up as a dull, blood stained blade tears through my sides, avulsing my cheeks, thighs, stomach, until the hemorrhaging sends me into a terrifying, self-isolated near-death experience until my brain has finally completed the last of its semi-conscious chemical reactions, and I die drizzling blood.



Animals are not humans. They'd make tools, a language, technology, and eventually begin attacking us instead if they posessed the faculties you speak of. Furthermore, you are basing this on emotional stuff. People are starving, man; without that, many people would die. Do you, equally, feel we should treat the animals with utmost respect, while causing the price of meat to go up to the point that humans begin to die agonizing deaths of starvation?

And what about the plants? I wouldn't want to be fed steroids and chopped up after they were done with me, would you? Heck, they do even worse genetic stuff with them--and often torture them in experiments! Not to mention the ones we step on, make clothes out of, etc etc.

Originally posted by l0rca

It does not take my ability to do math or reason, or appreciate the sunset to by terror go insane, or to experience a life of pain. Animals die every day, and PETA kills animals. Yet I still find this a fantastic alternative to what I have described. I'm not arguing for PETA, and it is a consequence, not a pride, that it is a PETA video, and not a more reasonable institution whose rights are of the video. Nevertheless, it carries a strong message.


The first sentence is such a confusing maelstorm of misplaced fragments I cannot make sense out of it. And what are you arguing for? Generic ethics? I can't tell if you want a little, or a lot. But the video sets the tone for broad and extreme changes which would harm humankind as a whole.

I have no intent to harm you, but I disagree with everything you said.
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Posted on 12-01-06 09:37 PM, in Prejudice against the Obese Link
That said, I'm really sick of the advertisements attacking people with weight problems. My metabolism makes me skinny like Waluigi, and the TV yells, "Lose 30 pounds NOW!!!"

...I can't even gain that much; no amount of ice cream can do it either.

I believe prejudice of all kinds is wrong; one must judge the current state, not assume a judgement based on their own biases and not reality.
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Posted on 12-03-06 02:10 AM, in Christmas Wish List! Link
Wii, Wii Component Cable, Wii Zelda, Surge Protector, FF7:Advent Children Soundtrack.

There. Done. :p
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Posted on 12-03-06 03:19 AM, in so I was actually able to connect to AOL from Linux using a winmodem... Link
Some people never seem to quit AOL, though. I know this guy who's insisted on using it; and he complains his computer is slow... even though it's AOL causing it, as he has 4 versions of it.

For some reason, he prefers Version 7.0 over all others.
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Posted on 12-03-06 04:18 PM, in So we're going to be updating the FAQ. Link
Rule 3.14: Beware the Metal Man. He craves human flesh.

And now, for a real suggestion.

Rule ?@?!: Respect other members when you post--they might actually return the favor to you.
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Posted on 12-03-06 04:26 PM, in Is this some sort of sick joke? Link
You've been compromised by malware and spyware and viruses.

ALL WEBSITES WILL NOW DO THAT TO YOU.

Well, at least, unless you remove it.
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Posted on 12-03-06 04:27 PM, in Xkeeper's ban Link
I've seen it happen roughly 3-4 times, myself. I think. My eyes sometimes play tricks on me.
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Posted on 12-03-06 04:28 PM, in Wii Link
It's nearly impossible to find a Wii these days. All these crazy ticket schemes, you know. I doubt we'll be able to get one until demand is finally satisfied.
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Posted on 12-03-06 04:31 PM, in Is this some sort of sick joke? Link
If enough of your computer works to read this post and download files, check out Spybot: Search and Destroy to see if that can help.

I'd also suggest getting some virus scanners. Make sure yours isn't Norton--that's worse than nothing at times.
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Posted on 12-03-06 04:38 PM, in The Virus - Alive or dead? Link
I believe it to be in-between our rather puny, vague definitions of 'alive' and 'dead', as it moves more like a robot than a living thing, and appears to be unable to reproduce without otherwise compromising other living things. That in mind, it seems to be primitive enough to prevent it from being entirely inert, so it's mostly a gray area. I'd say it should have its own classification.
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Posted on 12-03-06 04:47 PM, in Is this some sort of sick joke? Link
I'm sure they'll listen if what you say is true; that if the computer is almost entirely disabled by this setup, then the only recourse is to actually fix it. I would suggest finding a new antivirus, as Norton itself is known for disabling and breaking things.
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Posted on 12-03-06 09:12 PM, in Check out my new Web Page for SMW Hacking. Link


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Metal Man88

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Posted on 12-04-06 03:04 AM, in Generally I don't post in here... [link topic] Link
This is equally as bogus as that old Pro-HIV website. In fact, it seems recycled.
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Posted on 12-05-06 03:25 PM, in PETA video Link
Originally posted by Sin Dogan
Yea but the whole mentality behind the meat processing is not only severe and needless cruelty to animals but it is about hording all the food for one country. While in other countries the life expectency is going down due to famine and disease among other things, the life expectency in the US is predicted to be lower in our generation BECAUSE of all these goddamned processed foods and shit.


It is too bad that very food has so many grips on the society; heck, it helped ensure the creation and further life of many a person.

Unfortunately, the majority appears to like this processed food... or wait! Perhaps we can let those who voluntarily partake of it die from their choices, allowing those who don't to outlive them and eventually end the reign of processed foods.

Either way, I agree with the bit on needless cruelty and find the self-destruction aspect of it an interesting insight.

Originally posted by Sin Dogan

Vyper, you ARE wrong. How is it more painful to be killed by a lion or something than starving to death in your own feces because your legs broke due to your obesity after getting your eyes clawed out by a chicken stacked on top of you?

We already had this conversation before.


Yes, mostly. Again, the methods of producing food are inefficient and disgusting, and indeed, needs to be changed, but the aesthetics of it aren't going to change it; if one truly wants change, I hypothesize that the target should be the trusts which make the meat, and the people who control it, like McDonalds. Kill them and the rest of the disgusting, corrupt, money-grubbing evil is likely to die.

But we need another trust-busting president for that to happen...

Still, your position makes more sense than l0rca's.
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Posted on 12-05-06 03:27 PM, in December 2006 ACS Rankings Link
Avast! Contentless posts as far as the eye can see!

*Stares in wonder at his own post, Pikaguy's weird little sorrow poem, and Forte's confusion*
Metal Man88

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Posted on 12-05-06 03:28 PM, in Is this some sort of sick joke? Link
Ech... sorry for the false alarm, there.

But, yeah, removing him would be far more effective a solution, although a bit extreme. I wish his layout was less pixellated, too.
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Posted on 12-05-06 03:34 PM, in Way to go, Gateway tech support. Link
I need your serial number to respond to this. :p

But, yeah, it sounds like an automaton. Say your serial number only in one line, then say the other, and maybe it'll understand you.

...Or it may tell you the Taco Machine is broken, like the local moron teller at Taco Bell here.
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Posted on 12-06-06 01:54 PM, in PETA video Link
Originally posted by Cruel Justice
Another thing... if humans weren't meant to consume other animals, why have we been doing it for several thousand years? It's natural selection, humans created technology to make this more efficient. Unless you ARE in fact a cow, you shouldn't have a problem with it. If your motive is to preserve animals such as pigs and cows, make your own farm and tell everyone to get the fuck out; otherwise, shut up and eat your fucking meatloaf!



Humans are animals too. By that logic, if I got out a gun, aimed at you, and announced my intents to eat your flesh, you'd have to let me kill you and eat you. And not only that, but you'd be supposed to go "Shut up and eat my #*@&ing flesh, you veggie-lover!" Furthermore, it would be legal for me to use technology to make you more delicious (ick) and modify stuff just like anything else.

Furthermore, natural selection indicates nature selects it; so when a cow is eaten by a mountain lion, sure, that's natural. Do you think factories creating and killing genetically altered animals like a machine is natural, my confused friend?

Originally posted by Cruel Justice
The funny thing is, I think the animals getting slaughtered have more purpose in life than those mongoloids trying to preserve everything. When those morons die after failing a meaningless protest, they are left in the ground to rot like everyone else without accomplishing anything and usually get pissed on afterwards; Blatent Failure. The animals getting slaughtered are there to get fat and sell as poultry without any knowledge of what's going on in the world. Ignorance is bliss! When they die, they're useful... they serve a valid purpose that has been repeated more times than you have had hot meals... become someone's dinner. Honestly, I am thankful the cows exist and I hope they go to a better place.


Ironically, despite your seemingly pro-human stance, you appear to believe dying to become food is the highest cause in the universe. And thus, that all the animals that die for it are better than us humans, who are not eaten when we are dead, except if for some reason our bodies aren't buried. So, again, Mr. Cruel Justice, it appears you would gladly die to be on somebody's dinner plate rather than believe anything else. I suggest you go to some far out place, then; only then can you meet up with your savior, the cannibal. :p

Originally posted by Cruel Justice
Depending on what part of the globe you come from, animals are going to be treated differently, it's CULTURE. We identify which animals are appropriate to become our pets and we take care of them, NOT because PETA told us so. Why? It's old news...


It's old news that cannibals eat people, Cruel Justice. It's a CULTURE. Like you so excellently point out, people should eat one another because it's a norm in their past culture.

Originally posted by Cruel Justice
fter identifying which animals are considered pets (namely the animals in pet stores), we can call foul play against anyone caught abusing them. Most animals are not doomed to fall victim under the human's diet. I still don't understand why people complicate such a simple fact.


Ah! Now you say we should enslave other animals. Humans, also being animals, must therefore also be enslaved by your questionable logic, but that, thankfully, most of them won't be eaten because of that. And you don't understand why it's so complicated? I guess not.

Your argument has been very persuasive, Cruel Justice. Now get in my stove!
(/Satire)


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