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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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You're going to have to be more specific. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Surely the problems of sex slavery go far beyond the legal/illegal status of prostitution in different countries and more has to do with the poor way in which sex slavery is dealt with by various governments. I mean, I'm sure you've heard of all the cases where the victims end up being arrested on immigration charges or somesuch similar farce, for example.
I'm a bit confused though, you're for legalised prostitution despite the problems of the international sex trade--just objecting to the term "victimless", yes? |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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I don't get the point you're making here.
What is MGD? |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Quite.
There's a difference between individual instances of something being victimless, and the concept as a whole being victimless. The same applies to drugs, actually. Drugs, in the aggreggate, have plenty of victims. So does prostitution. That doesn't mean evert prostitute is a victim, or that every user is a victim. I don't like the term "victimless crime" for this reason--it implies that there's not harms being done and therefore we shouldn't care. I hesitate to use the term, but it's a very liberal-bourgeois conception of victimhood and choice at work, that thinks just because somebody else isn't being beaten up or robbed of their property, there's no victim and no potential crime. Usually the best approach to things like drugs and prostitution is a "harm minimisation" approach wherein we acknowledge that there are significant harms and problems, but try to reduce the harm done to the most vulnerable and victimised--junkies and sex slaves and so forth. This is especially important since "ban and persecute" approaches, which are the norm in most countries, and which involve arresting prostitutes and drug-users and jailing them, actually add to the harm and add to the victimhood of the vulnerable. |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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So why does the Christian have to like motor oil instead of beer? | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Dude, don't you know the only valid and worthwhile activities are personally tending to the sick and hungry, or posting on the internet? | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Um, dude, Ziff and I both support legalised prostitution (the status quo here), and much softer drug laws. All we're saying is the term "victimless" is extremely misleading and obscures the very real harms things like drugs and prostitution do. And not all of these harms can be put down to the effects of prohobition, some are just inherent in the nature of the thing. I for one support these things from a harm minimisation approach, not from ideas about some fantasy land where the only things making prostitution and drugs harmful is the mean old government banning them.
Prostitution is pretty inherently exploitative and relies to a large extent on broken and mentally damaged women--the post-feminist fantasy of empowered happy hookers is only a minority even in the liberal sexually liberated west, and even in libertarian utopia Amsterdam exploitation and sex slavery still runs rampant. Drugs, likewise, are inherently harmful to many people who take them, afte rall, just look at the massive social costs of perfectly legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco. Claiming these things are victimless is disingenious. |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Well they're not even necessarily crimes, that's purely a legal decision made in different jurisdictions. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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I've got my doubts about the truth of a lot of these laws, where's the referencing and verification and such?
A glance at the Australia page, for example, reveals: "A life sentence is 25 years" which is an incredibly simplistic interpretation of a complex legal debate about average sentence lengths, parole, whether "life" should mean dying in prison or merely "no guarantee of ever being released", and so forth. And "Until the Port Arthur Killings it was legal to own an AK-47 but not legal to be gay." - this seems to have its origins i9n hackneyed stand-up routines from the mid 1990s. Tasmania ended its sodomy laws about the same time as the killings (and incidentally now has Civil Unions and thus has moved further towards supporting gay rights than any other state), but I'm not sure the gun laws were all that lessaiz-faire anywhere in the country pre-1996. |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Ah, well there was nothing like that on the Australia page.
We also don't have codes of laws, as such. Common Law and all that. |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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When I first moved to Sydney I was really surprised to discover that a lot of public schools are divided into Girls and Boys schools. They're usually right next to each other, but the concept still seriously wierds me out, especially in the public system. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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I keep reading this as "your everything list" or "your all list".
At any rate, basically all I need to do right now is worry about money. -Find a second job, since 1 job isn't netting me any savings. -Make sure my flatmate sends me his half of the rent money through netbank tomorrow. -Check that my netbank paid the electricity. Fun times. |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Maybe you just got boring.
I'm serious, not trying to be insulting despite stating it in an inflammatory way. Most relationships end, especially when we're young, and so it's fairly certain you two just simply just weren't to be and ultimately, weren't compatible. Being nice and respectful doesn't guarantee you anything, but you seem to feel that it does, or should. You seem to think you were being the ideal boyfriend, and maybe for some girls you were... but seriously, just because you think you were being nice and respectful and blah blah blah doesn't mean you were what she needed and wanted at that time. I mean, look at this:
Much more likely that it simply wasn't working out any more, you two had passed your used-by date, and so it ended, as these things often do, in flames. Buck up, learn from it, there'll be others, try not to blame all women. It sucks that it ended in cheating as opposed to, say, a serious talk and a mutally amicable parting of ways, but then, we're all young and stupid here, so sometimes things don't work out that well. Cheating is often simply a sign that a relationship is over and should be ended. (edited by Arwon on 11-30-06 07:07 AM) |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Skreename wins the fucking thread. The only thing more annoying than PETA is reflexive anti-vegetarian fuckwits. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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New Guinea is the island above Australia, it is a geographical concept. Politically it is divided into Papua New Guinea in the west and Indonesian-owned West Papua/Irian Jaya in the east. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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God, even George Bush has now admitted man contributes to global warming. What few skeptics remain should just give up and admit they were wrong. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Originally posted by Rom Manic Melanesia, actually. The distinction is both geographic and ethnic. The islands of the Pacific are essentially divided into three relatively coherent entities in terms of geography, history and ethnicity. New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu and New Caledonia are considered Melanesian rather than Polynesian. Polynesia is further to the east, with Hawaii at one end and Tahiti and New Zealand and Easter Island at other ends, also containing places like Tonga and Samoa. The third part of the Pacific is Micronesia. As the name suggests, it's characterised by lots of tiny little islands. It's to the north of New Guinea, east of the Philipines, and contains places like Nauru, Kiribati and Guam as well as the Federated States of Micronesia. There's also term Australasia, if you just wanna talk about Australia and New Zealand, although sometimes the term also encompasses Melanesia as well. THE MORE YOU KNOW. (edited by Arwon on 12-02-06 10:47 PM) |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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So what do people think of the fact that even governments like the UK government are publishing very dire warnings that doing nothing could potentially reduce global GDP by 20% or more? Are the UK government just a bunch of wacko environmentalists making shit up? Are the European Union? | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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Originally posted by ibz10g I'm sorry, but you're clearly an idiot. That "invented the internet" comment was totally misquoted by the conservative commentariat. Basically he referred to the leading role he played as a Senator in the early days, in getting the legislative and financial support necessary to make the internet what it is today. He was one of its big early advocates in political circles, and the comment he made referred to this. The fact that anyone still believes this ridiculous furphy speaks very poorly of the press in America. |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6320 days Last view: 6319 days |
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This is probably the most worthwhile wastage of tens of billions of dollars I can think of.
The scientific gains would no doubt be considerable given how much we owe the Space Program already, and the coolness factor is compelling. |
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