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||bass Administrator                   Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| Not only was there, infact, no evidence of any plan ever existing. Clinton had multiple oppertunities to take out Bin Ladin during his time in office. EVERY TIME he either pussied out because of potential backlash or just dropped the ball entirely. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by cory21391Focus on the word PRODUCTION car. Meaning car for someone with way too much money who wants a plaything. There's no respect or soul in that car. It's an empty shell. Any car that you just go out and buy carries no respect at all. It's a penile-compensator. Any car worth the time of day of even looking at has had years of personal loving work done to it. Even those peice of shit rice rockets have more soul to them than that fugly pos. It's looks like a cross between the batmobile and a clown car. Gimme Joe Shmoe's personal attempt to copy the Callaway Sledgehammer any day. |
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||bass Administrator  Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| Actually it does: http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/Prior_Knowledge/Clinton_let_bin_laden.htm
I'm not blaming him, just saying that if he had DONE HIS JOB that things might have turned out differently. This was in the mid to late 90s though. We all know what (who) he was buzy with at the time. (edited by ||bass on 09-26-06 11:48 PM) |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| That harddrive is a ripoff. You can get 300gb sata3 drives for less than that. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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||bass Administrator  Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by drjayphdOther than that being totally irrelevant (the fact Clinton totally dropped the ball on several occations still remains (Thank YOU sir, for playing, enjoy your consolation prize. Feel free to check publically available (Googleable) documents that back up everything stated in the linked article about Clinton screwing the pooch.  )). The guy who made the movie is a bit in the outfield, but if you honestly think "because HE wrote it, it's wrong", you ought to be sent to special school. Ad hominim, while tempting, only makes people shake their heads at you and frown. The simple fact remains that a 5 minute google search can yield documents that show the crosshairs locked onto Bin Ladin's turban with no action ever being taken. STOP [beep] left wing idology for three seconds, THINK for a brief instant, and ACTUALLY DO the google search, the information is really there, I promise. (Try the term [clinton "bin laden"] without the outer brackets. For god sakes the search turns up dated videos.)
Begin slight tangent: The ad hominim attacks (due to lack of counterartguement) remind me of another issue worthy of discussion. Anyone else notice what when Path to 9/11 came out, the liberal bitching and moaning went rampant with STILL no clear end in sight? This is going to be going for months. The tsunami of bitching from the left is just awe-inspiring. I've even heard some real screamers trying to get the movie taken off the air after it showed on BBC (I think it was BBC-5). YET. As I seem to recall, when that fatass guy made Fahrenheit 9/11, the negative media coverage from the right consisted of about a grand total of three people shit talking the movie (Michael Savage and two other guys). The rest of the right didn't give two shits because the movie was without merit as it contained large amounts of hearsay, unfounded theories, and nonexistant sources used to back up fabricated information. Besides, he fatty wants to make a movie, fatty makes movie. It's his right. (Seriously wtf is his name, you know who I mean.) Apperantly this is the message we're trying to send: Remember kids, apperantly, if you ask the democrat on the street, freedom of speech is only free when it's LEFT WING SPEECH. Stray to the right and we'll be sure to rip you down and brand you a radical and a fanatic. It's really sickening. End tangent. EDIT: Censored myself slightly on second thought. (edited by ||bass on 09-27-06 02:34 AM) (edited by ||bass on 09-27-06 02:35 AM) |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by emceeYou're getting CLOSE to the point I'm trying to make. The issue was that there wasnt much hindsight necissary. The USS Cole and African embassy bombings were both HUGE news at the time and anyone who paid attention to the news already knew who he was and that he was a huge threat. I'm not saying Bush didn't drop the ball either, he did, but my point is that so did Clinton. Nobody did anything about the problem until AFTER 9/11. Remember, during the time we KNEW Bin Ladin was a dick, Clinton had 8 years to do something. Bush was president roughly 8 months when all hell broke loose. My big objection here is that the first few posts about Clinton are almost borderline fellatio despite the fact that there is PLENTY of well-deserved blame and fault to spread around to the last several presidents. |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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| I'm actually going to be keeping out of this thread from this point on. The board in general isn't a particularly welcome place for the peppered conservative viewpoint and I think this thread is bordering on lost cause. The bottom line is people won't look at what's right in front of them just because I tell them to.
IMO the division of responsibility is as follows: 45% - Bush Senior's fault - setting him up in the first place 40% - Clinton's Fault - not stopping him when he has several chances 15% - Bush Junior's fault - he dropped the ball too but he was only actually president for less than 8 months before 9/11, you can't possibly dump the whole thing on him 10% - Other misc government people and agencies for not doing their jobs The point is you cannot possibly say: "This is all X's fault". There are alot of people on multiple levels from both sides who blew it big. Don't be blinded by idologic loyalty. The Clinton worship is just as blind as Bush worship. I've taken up the job of offering the conservative viewpoint because this board is (IMO) overwhelmingly liberal. Shit like 9/11 only happens when a number of people on all sides don't do their jobs properly for extended periods of time. 9/11 is a direct result of more than 10 years worth of continual fuckups. All I'm asking is that people actually LOOK at the facts that are out there. Nothing is a biforcate issue. That's all I have to say about the matter. |
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| See, this is exactally why I'm against government-run social welfare. It would be so much better if everyone gave to their local charities because a local charity ran by local people would know exactally who is genuinely disadvantages and who is a lazy freeloader looking for a free buck. Local charities have a small enough scope that they eventually learn everyone's life story and find out who genuinely had a hard lot and who brought it on themselves. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Originally posted by TaraleNot only does Aus seem to have some seriously fucking MESSED UP laws regarding money (your ex would be serving a hefty prison sentence if he were in the US). I'm pretty sure that denying a passport over a bankrupcy is against several international laws as well as the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. |
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||bass Administrator Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6324 days Last view: 6322 days |
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Originally posted by TaralePermission from creditors to travel? Damn, talk about archaic. I thought that practice was abandoned 200 years ago (it was here). I can guarintee you 100% that that is a fairly serious violation of a number of UN resolutions as well as several international treaties. Remind me to never EVER travel to Austrailia.Originally posted by ||bassOriginally posted by TaraleNot only does Aus seem to have some seriously fucking MESSED UP laws regarding money (your ex would be serving a hefty prison sentence if he were in the US). I'm pretty sure that denying a passport over a bankrupcy is against several international laws as well as the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights. We have basically the opposite system here. If you lived in the US, you would be off the hook and your ex would be serving a 10-20 year prison sentence. You know what's even nicer about living in the US. Foreign creditors aren't permitted to collect from US citizens. I owe nearly $1000 in taxes to the area of Scotland I was living in in 04-05 and I'm having fun thumbing my nose at them and telling off the creditors when they call because they legally can't touch me because I'm a US citazen and they arent a US entity. (edited by ||bass on 09-29-06 12:07 AM) (edited by ||bass on 09-29-06 12:09 AM) (edited by ||bass on 09-29-06 12:09 AM) |
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Considering the seriously fucking messed up legal structure you seem to be under, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you could manage to apply for asylum in some other country. I'm almost positive that alot of those bankrupcy restrictions violate a large number of UN resolutions. |
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That's fine. I'm not interested in the exact details of the austrailian law because the law is wrong. You should seriously find another place to live that has a more CORRECT legal system. |
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I won't comment on the morality of the issue because everyone would disagree with me anyway. What I will say is that right or wrong, the act is perfectally legal. |
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It doesn't matter because if you read the actual article, the president ISN'T pardoning himself. In this case, Bush would be reciving a CONGRESSIONAL pardon, not a presidential one. |
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Originally posted by windwakerNO he wouldn't be. You need to look up the legal definition of a 'pardon'. A Congressional pardon isn't actually a pardon, it's simply the writing of an exception into the law.Originally posted by ||bass Also, ex-post-facto laws are only ilegal in the same context that bills of attainder are ilegal. You can still give after the fact exemptions and reprives.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,216898,00.html
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*sniff* *sniff* *sniff*? I smell JUSTICE in the air today. | |||||||||||||||||
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I think the only way I'm allowed to travel overseas is with the permission of my Trustee / creditors. So it would depend on them; but frankly things go so poorly for me in general I'm inclined to believe they'd say no... 