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Koryo Keese                 Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| I doubt the EU will truly eclipse the US. The European countries have much more history and nationalism to overcome before they can ever become as unified as the US, and I don't believe they can easily surpass the US as long as they still see themselves as individual countries. For now, the EU is a glorified trading block, and I don't see that changing very quickly. Great Britain has rejected the Euro dollar, and the French people had rejected the EU constitution in a national referendum, last I heard. Don't get me wrong, I'd very much like to see a unified Europe. As a rule, I think unity is the way of the future, and a unified power with 800 million people would provide much stronger resistance to the anti democratic forces that I believe will take power and become the majority in the next few decades. But honestly, for the future of democracy and the human race, I would like to see a unified Europe, so don't try to twist this as a selfish thing.
China was not "the" third pole in the cold war. China was much weaker then. The only asset China had was a massive army. It had almost no technology and no ability to project its power very far beyond its borders. It also was not a great idealogical influence in the world. And, as I said in my last post, which you didn't make reference to, many of the changes away from a uni or di polar world are precisely because the US is in power. China will be far less affected by terrorists or other non state actors, and China will have the capability to overpower any oil suppliers that try to assert themselves as regional powers. Hugo Chavez is indeed trying for form a South American union, but I doubt that will ever happen. Even if it does, China will have no problem breaking it up, should China choose to do that. Alkis, I'd appreciate it if you can write more than one line per post. |
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| I would be happy to respond to a critical discussion of the two major US political parties, but not from a guy who thinks we killed our own people on 9/11. I'm sorry, but I can't see him as at all credible. His other posts in this forum, short and simple, show that he has very little information about the US. This post just shows that he is willing to believe anything, no mater how illogical, if it paints the US in a bad light. | |||
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Koryo Keese  Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| What do you mean? That the Iraqi people or Iraqi government proved that they aren't a true democratic country because they killed Saddam? | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| My high horse? Whatever you say. | |||
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Koryo Keese  Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| So the Chinese and USSR didn't agree on things. So what? It wasn't at all likely that the two would agree on everything. But the "issues" it caused were relatively minor, especially when compared with the geopolitical and ideological battle that took place between the US and USSR. If China was a "third pole", it was a house cat compared with two tigers. | |||
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Koryo Keese  Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Again, say whatever you like. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| I'm not interested in any articles from the economist. You've got to make your own points rather than referring to the political columnists to do your thinking for you. Killing Saddam was never about democracy. It was about justice. That should be plainly clear. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| House cats and tigers, my friend. How many countries around the world were influenced by Chinese ideology during the cold war? Now compare that with the number influenced by USSR and US ideologies. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Well, as much as I was enjoying that mod hat (is it a stetson or a bowler?), let's talk about the US political parties. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| I'm more interested in hearing what you have to say, then reading an article. Trust me, I've seen debate threads turn into link posting threads. They get tedious and boring real fast. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| I hate to be the one to point this out again, but the communist ideology is never truly applied to what we call "communist countries." Now, China was successful in making a very successful export economy, as opposed to most other "communist nations." That is a more recent development, though, and has little to do with communist ideologies. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| What should the Iraqis have done with him? Kept him in jail forever, where he would have been given better food and more security than the average Iraqi citizen has? Exile is not an option either. We know what happens when people like khomeini and Arafat are exiled. The Iraqis suffered under Saddam, and they have every right to kill him. It's not as if they had him drawn and quartered, or stoned him to death (which is actually not an uncommon practice among some Muslims).
Edit: I don't read the Free Republic. I could get into a link posting debate but, as I said, those are no fun. I find that cartoon a bit offensive. (edited by Koryo on 12-29-06 10:54 PM) |
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Perhaps we're getting caught up with the term "third pole." Just because China was a third aspect in some negotiations and theories, I don't think China (back then) should be compared with the US and USSR, considering the vast difference in power. I'm reminded of France's claim to the the "third nuclear power." Technically, France did have the world's third largest nuclear arsenal, for a time. However, the US and USSR had so many more bombs than France, there was almost no comparison. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Yet again we are left with the prospect of Saddam having a better life than many of the Iraqis (the ones he didn't kill). If the Iraqis want him dead, its their right. If Saddam had killed any of your family, you would feel differently. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| I didn't say China would "declare war" and invade with troops in the South America jungle. There are much more subtle ways to break up a loose alliance. Why is it wrong to speculate about China breaking up a South American union, when the existence of that South American union is also speculation? Finally, if you are suggesting that China's "Communist" ideology will prevent it from conflict with another "communist" group, then you are dreaming. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Ziff, if you had read my last couple posts, I said Saddam's death had nothing to do with Iraqi democracy. An Iraqi democracy could succeed or fail whether Saddam lives in jail or dies, and Iraq's democratic institutions (what few there are) are not in the least tarnished by Saddam's execution. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| And equally feasible is the prospect of China going to almost any lengths to get their hands on Venezuelan oil. They might not even have to demand it, and Venezuela is quite willing to sell China oil right now. Without the threat of the US, though, Venezuela might decide that it doesn't like China either. In this case, who has more power? A loose alliance of South American countries, or China? If China wants the oil, and if Venezuela denies it to them, there is no reason to think China won't take slightly aggressive measures to get it back. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Not at all. If I said "Iraqi democracy cannot succeed while Saddam lives", then I would be equating democracy with Saddam's death. But why is Saddam's life the only one people are interested in protecting? Do you think the US forces should withdraw from Iraq within 6 months? Because the ensuing violence would kill thousands of Iraqis. Why do you spend more time and text talking about Saddam's death than the people Saddam killed? | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Considering Chinas actions already, and considering the biological theory about powerful nations acting similar to each other, I see no reason why China won't become an empire. Remember, I'm not saying that there is anything inherently evil about China. If Russia, China, Germany, Great Britain, or probably even some small country like Belgium had the power to affect world events, they most likely will. The temptation to use such power is too great to resist. | |||
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Koryo Keese Since: 10-17-06 From: Michigan, USA Last post: 6331 days Last view: 6331 days |
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| Well, I'm glad you're a supporter of a surge. I only hope its not too late.
I'm with the Iraqis on this. If the Iraqis didn't want Saddam dead, there would have been a massive increase in violence and protests. I even saw celebrating in Dearborn Michigan (home to quite a few Muslims). I just don't think they have done anything to dirty their own democracy (fragile though it is), by executing Saddam. |
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