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Posted on 08-17-06 07:11 PM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
You can also swap in, with a tad bit of modification, a better video card.
I don't think any comment other than the bolding and underlining is necissary.
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Posted on 08-17-06 07:16 PM, in Bringing Sprite Onto a Plane Link
Somewhat on point: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/17/airport.evac.ap/index.html

As a side note, 3 years for bringing Sprite on an airplane seems totally fair to me if the security officers told you not to. Airports and airplanes aren't the places to bend the rules or to make political statements. The rules are there for a reason, they are also there to be followed.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-17-06 07:23 PM, in PSP Dies! Link
I'm not so sure about the DS Lite yet. Are the buttons even smaller than the regular DS? Because the regular DS buttons are pretty damn small as it is. Also, I've been hearing reports that the DS Lite's casing is prone to cracking, espically around the hinge area. Any information on this?
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-17-06 07:53 PM, in It's a glorious day for P2P; 'closing letter' delivered to RIAA, MIAA, etc. Link
Technically it's not smuggling because you aren't moving the product itself ilegally. It's like this: If Picasso made a painting worth millions and brought it across the border, he would be subject to tax. If however, Picasso simply brought canvas and a paintset and didn't paint the actual painting until afterwards, the tax would not be applicable in this case. There is also no way to say that Picasso should be taxed higher for the canvas and paint because he WILL make it into an expensive masterpeice because the paints and canvas are too generic to make that assumption. There is no way to know how the painting will turn out until after it's already been painted.

Similarly, there's no way to know what the data blocks are going to build until after the file has been fully assembled on the destination hard drive, at which point it's too late. This is not encryption, this is not data hiding. There is mathematically NO way to say what the blocks build because the correlation between blocks and finished files is not one-to-one. The blocks can be assembled to form basic_shoe_repair.pdf just as easily as they can be assembled to form copyrighted_song.mp3. You would literally need a time machine to know how things turn out before it's too late.

Even if the MPAA connected to the network and retrived a file, it wouldn't work because there is at least a possibility that every single user that sends a block to the downloading machine does not have a copy of any parts of the song anywhere on their computer. The block that my computer sends to the MPAA computer might very well have origionally come from basic_shoe_repair.pdf. I don't have copyrighted_song.mp3 anywhere on my computer, in fact I may have never even heard of the song. That doesn't stop my computer from sending a 128k block that just happens to fit what the MPAA machine is asking for.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-17-06 09:30 PM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Apperantly her account got wiped out last time xkeeper got triggerhappy (the wipeout) so I'm just going to post her comment and you can belive she said it if you want to, if you don't, that's fine too. Anyway: "Even a computer illiterate girl like me could do it." She openly admits she wouldn't be able to identify her graphics card if asked to point it out but also mentions "there's only one slot it could possibly fit into" when I point out which one it is. It's not a big leap of logic when there is one slot with the AGP shape and one card that fits into it. She knows very little about computers, but it doesn't matter. She put the whole thing together by herself.

Perhaps I should have mentioned that she's totally computer illiterate before making the comment, it's not an insult to anyone's intelligence. I assumed everyone would know she was computer illiterate (a seriously bad assumption considering noone had any possible way of knowing that). The intent of the statement was that someone with no computer background managed to build a working computer with only marginal effort. Anyone capible of reading one of the 9 languages a motherboard manual comes printed in can just read it and do what it says. It's not a major exercize of genius.

Also, I consider "difficult to service and upgrade" to be "based around the computers" as you put it. Wouldn't you think?

EDIT: Did I mention that she built a machine with an Athelon XP64 3500+, a gig of ram, geforce 6600, 200gb SATA hd, and more for under $700? I'd like to see anyone beat that price with ANY mass-manufactured computer, Mac OR PC. Dell fails just as much as Apple in this case.

EDIT 2: I'm actually not anti-Mac. I'm anti-propriatary. Dell uses all kinds of special Dell-only parts. I hate those computers just as much as, if not more than, Macs. I have all sorts of nightmare stories involving Dell, Compaq, and others. I understand that not everyone has the time or skill to build their own computers. However, almost nobody can honestly tell me that they don't live near SOME kind of local no-name "Compu-Hut" type of store that will build you a dream machine for half of what Dell charges. Also remember, with those local guys, you can take your broken or outdated machine right to their front door and have back a fixed or upgraded machine the next day. No big name company can ever beat that kind of service.


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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-17-06 11:35 PM, in Racial Profiling Link
Morally, I have no opinion either way. It depends on how you appliy it. If a very small group of people (say 10%) committed a disproportionately high amount of crime (50%) than I would say that profiling is justified. On the other hand, when there is no statistical evidence to back up the practice and continue to profile, that crosses the line and enters into the realm of racism.
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Posted on 08-17-06 11:37 PM, in Great. A Water Park. Link
While likley that indoor waterparks are better (indoor pools are better after all). They're just as rare for the same reason. Indoor waterparks probably cost several times as much money to build.
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-17-06 11:55 PM, in Bringing Sprite Onto a Plane Link
Originally posted by windwaker
My Al Qaeda example, while not strictly a logical fallacy (), was simply a joke.
Actually it is strictly a logical fallacy, or at least it WOULD be if you attempted to actually use it as part of an arguement. Although. I think that most people did understand it to be a bit of humor.
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Posted on 08-18-06 12:09 AM, in Racial Profiling Link
I don't think those are the numbers for black Americans. While they are about 10% of the population, I seriously doubt they commit an entire 50% of the crime. I don't actually have the statistics in front of me but I find it seriously unlikley that they commit 20 crimes for every one committed by all the other races combined (required by the 10/50 statistic). That seems way over the top. Those numbers were really just pulled out of my ass for the purpose of my example.

Now, on to specifics: Actually... I'm not going to argue your numbered points (the "Firstly....", "Secondly...." and "Third...." paragraphs). Mostly because they make sence and are probably right.

Seriously though, I made those percentage numbers up to make the example very clear-cut.

Also, I know it's not a thread about general profiling, but you made the point that it was always morally incorrect and I just felt like giving a counter point.

Don't get used to hearing this very often because I almost always am right about everything but I take back my previous post. I don't care so much about the part about losing faith in the system, but your arguement about how profiling can further distort the crime statistics, thus becoming a self-sustaining incorrect system in itself is pretty convincing and probably right. I hadn't thought of the cyclical effect before.

In short: I take back my previous post because I made a mistake. Just don't get comfortable because it's a rare event.
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Posted on 08-18-06 02:13 AM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
My biggest arguement against Macs right now is changing though. It used to be the hardware but it's becoming the software. The problem is that MacOS will only normally install on PC's with a special Intel CPU (which is actually identical to normal except with a stupid flag on it for MacOS to look for). Tiger actually runs on an AMD cpu as-is if you hack up the installer. The problem is that the OS has zero drivers for unapproved hardware. This is not a Mac specific problem though, Linux has a serious problem with drivers/kernel modules for very new hardware (which is usually nonexistant). I think Mac would serve themselves well to open up the OS to install normally on all PC hardware (something it's already technically capible of since OSX is nothing more than a very pretty shell running over FreeBSD. I wouldn't even be surprised if FreeBSD drivers/modules/whatever worked with OSX. The problem with OSX though is that if you do anything relatively low-level, you will royally fuck up your computer if you don't know what you're doing.

What is so awesome about the Mac "user experiance"? I only use a Mac very rarely, I used one today actually, the last time before that was probably atleast 2 months ago. The only thing I ever remember experiancing with a Mac is unplugging the mouse that came with the computer and replacing it with the nearest PC 2 button mouse. Those 1 button jobs drive me up a freakin wall.
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Posted on 08-18-06 02:14 AM, in Great. A Water Park. Link
Also. What kind of sunscreen?
SPF 15 sunblock isn't going to do shit if you're like Irish or something.
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Posted on 08-18-06 03:21 AM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Originally posted by windwaker
Originally posted by ||bass
On that note, I've been wondering. If I got a Mac and wanted to do a serious upgrade of my video or sound card, do I just buy some propriatary card to fit into the micro-cramped casing, or do I just have to buy a whole new mac?
Depends what you have. With the iMac, no. Sexist comments kinda make your credibility moot though.
Actually if you spent half a nanosecond in any kind of logic course you would know that comments and opinions not relating to the topic at hand have no bearing whatsoever on credibility with regard to on-topic dicsussion. That's actually common sense if you think about it but that's apperantly too much to ask for.


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Posted on 08-18-06 04:35 AM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Originally posted by windwaker
Plus the backend of OSx, and stuff like the unix-esque command line system? I don't see why Apple would not want to be a software company too; I think both factions are comparable and perhaps both demand both of the same manpower.
It's not simply unix-esque. Anyone who actually takes the time to actually look would notice that the entire OS is copied almost verbatim from BSD source trees with a hacked to shit copy of OpenStep slapped on top. One of the reasons OSX probably still has limited hardware compatibility (i.e. designed not to install onto normal PC's) is because any kind of even remotely low-level work in every BSD OS is a royal freaking pain in the ass.

Originally posted by windwaker
I like how you don't deny the sexist part, but suggest I take a logic course.
As for the alleged sexism, I don't see much of a point trying to deny something I already said was a misinterpretation. I shouldn't have to explain myself twice just because you can't seem to be able to read. You are right about one thing though. I shouldn't have suggested a logic course considering it won't help you much until AFTER you manage to learn basic reading skills.


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Posted on 08-18-06 03:05 PM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Originally posted by Zer0wned
But back to the bias, I don't find the user interface to be intuitive at all, maybe because I was trying to treat it like a PC. But honestly, I found linux to be a little more intuitive (after the installation of needed software, that part's no cakewalk ).
I never saw what was so intuitive about the OSX interface myself either. I personally like an interface where all the buttons and menus stay the hell still rather than rolling and sliding all over the place (read: that bottom menu). I'm sure that can be disabled but it's still seriously anoying.
Originally posted by Zer0wned
And I can't believe this hasn't been mentioned-- Mac OSX can be run on a PC. It's been done, and is distributed on your friendly neighborhood bit torrent site (albeit illegally).
It was mentioned already in this post.

Also, as a general query not directed at anyone specific. I was asking a serious question when I said I wanted to know what was so wonderful about the Mac "user experiance". Seriously, what's the big deal? The only part I like about the "Mac experiance" is being able to maximize a copy of the BSD command line shell in an attempt to cover up everything else. Anoyingly though it won't run fullscreen.
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Posted on 08-18-06 03:09 PM, in Racial Profiling Link
I doub't that's deliberate. Most crimes are committed near the home. The fact that people commit crimes on others of their own race is because most of the time all the people of all live in the same part of town or even the same neighborhood.
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Posted on 08-18-06 03:20 PM, in Perpetual Motion Link
Along the same lines as what shreename said. This is complete amateurish bullshit that's been constructed with a 6th grade mentality about science.

Remember, there's a HUGE difference between running a very long time by itself (never actually forever) and having to do actual WORK. Remember, forget friction, the whole point is to actually POWER something. For that to happen, the thing would have to be constantly GAINING energy. Not only would it have to run forever which is impossible, if left with no physical load, it would have to actually get FASTER over time with no input work. There is absoloutly no way to ever ever ever build a perpetual motion machine. Period. The output energy of a machine will ALWAYS be less than input energy. (Do not confuse this with the economic concept of work/energy ratio.)
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Posted on 08-18-06 07:25 PM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Originally posted by windwaker
edit: why don't you respond to me destroying your "it's proprietary!!!" argument?
Because it's an asanine arguement. Take for example video editing software on the Mac (such as Final Cut Pro). We come to the same dilemmasame dilemma. My cousin David even ended up buying a Mac specifically for video and photo software that isn't available on the PC. The software is propriatary on both ends. The hardware is only propriatary with premade machines like Dells and Macs.
Originally posted by windwaker
Originally posted by ||bass
The problem with OSX though is that if you do anything relatively low-level, you will royally fuck up your computer if you don't know what you're doing.
Please cite an example.

OK: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200012/daemon-osx2.html

Also similar low-level issues but not directly on topic:
http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/arch_xnu.html
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6105

Also for a semi-pro-Mac position on some low-level issues: http://www.dribin.org/dave/blog/archives/2006/04/28/os_x_passwords_2/


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Posted on 08-19-06 01:19 AM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Now things are getting interesting now that someone (in this case Tarale) has actually answered my question about why someone might like the "Mac experiance".

Two points Tarale mentioned interest me though:
Originally posted by Tarale
I do find one aspect is user interface. Nothing is hidden away in a right click context menu on Mac OS X. And by hidden, I mean that you can only get to in that context menu. That's a good idea, that's good UI design -- because there are some people who don't use the right mouse button (a lot if my experience on help desk is an indicator, and some are even scared of it), and having things hidden away makes things harder for those people. Right mouse click menus are available, but instead of being the exclusive way to do something, they complement existing left click menus, providing faster ways to do things for "power users".
This is interesting because I REALLY LIKE the right mouse button. I like to have as much of my GUI hidden away as possible. I keep a very minimalist LiteStep skin in XP running where everything is hidden away in context menus. I like that because I absoloutly canno't stand clutter in my enviroment. I keep my room spotless and my desk clean at all times. I just CANNOT work with unnecissary stuff in my face. I like my GUI's to have only what is absoloutly necissary for basic functionality. Everything else I like to have hidden away in menus and submenus that will not get in your face unless you specifically ask for them. It's interesting to me because what you describe as something you like about the general Mac look-and-feel is one of the things I hate the most about it. I love stark, barren, boring GUI's that are 110% function and ZERO asthetics. Square buttons and fixed-width fonts are great, the smaller the better.

My desktop (click to enlarge):
Originally posted by Tarale
The security between users on the local machine -- unlike in Windows where logging in as one person you can still go to Documents and Settings and go through someone else's stuff...
This is actually somewhat incorrect. I do blame MS somewhat for this too. It's their own fault that people have this mistaken belief. The problem is that the situation you describe is actually the default behavior. It shouldn't be but it is. I only call it the DEFAULT BEHAVIOR though because you CAN tell windows to block other users from going into your Documents and Settings. It takes about 4 seconds. The problem is that most people have absoloutly no idea that you can quickly and easily change this setting. You can though: ControlPanel->UserAccounts->[click your account]->[click 'Make Private'], it's that simple but a vast majority of users have no idea the option is there. Why it's off by default is anyone's guess.


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Posted on 08-19-06 02:49 AM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
Forgive my ignorance of task-switching in OSX but I'm a bit hard-pressed to imagine something quicker and easier than alt+tab, espically with the modified system where alt+tab now gives little window previews and everything. Please enlighten me, seriously.
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Posted on 08-19-06 03:48 AM, in Discrimination relating to your computer. Formerly just, "Macs suck ass". Link
The cloverleaf+tab screenshot looks basically the same as alt-tab in windows except without the little window previews that the newer alt+tab has.

The "make all the windows go away" has been a feature of XP since it came out.

The multi-desktop, keyboard shortcuts, hot corners, and/or mouse command to move windows/switch desktops is available with several applications including LiteStep. The only difference being that Expose comes with OSX and the windows end requires you to go online, do a 10 second google search, download a 1 to 5 meg file and spend 5 minutes installing it.

After about 5 minutes of effort, essentially identical for anyone with an IQ over 12.
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