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SamuraiX Broom Hatter                  Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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| Next year, I plan on going to college, whether it be taking a year at a community college and then transfering to a california state university, or just going to one in the first place. I've taken a tour of the university campus, and taken classes at the community college--courses at universities cost a lot, and I really liked both. Might anyone who's gone to a community college or a state college mind giving me some advice? | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES   Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| University > College.
Trust me. What are you going for,t hough. Because that can matter. |
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Silvershield   580  Since: 11-19-05 From: Emerson, New Jersey Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| I'm not sure how distinct the difference in terminology is between Canada and America. I know that, at least from what I've seen, the words "college" and "university" are used as roughly equivalent in the United States, at least casually. (The only difference is apparent in a more formal context, or in the proper name of a particular school - Rutgers University versus Marist College, for example.)
Just wanted to point that out, maybe for my own sake, because I'm curious about the terms Ziff uses and the difference could be important. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| We have the same formal naming context, too. But Colleges are technical, universities are theoretical up here. Hands on vs. books
College is the step below university. You get a diploma at college. You get a degree at university. |
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||bass Administrator  Since: 11-17-05 From: Salem, Connecticut Last post: 6280 days Last view: 6279 days |
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Originally posted by ZiffAgreed with what Silvershield just said. This statement is only true outside of the US. In the US, the words College and University and mean the exact same thing. Trust me when I say Trinity College > Louisiana State University. |
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Silvershield 580 Since: 11-19-05 From: Emerson, New Jersey Last post: 6291 days Last view: 6279 days |
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Originally posted by ||bassWhat I was trying to say, yeah. I go to a school that is officially a "college," but it could not be considered universally inferior to every school that carries the title "university." Just a difference in terminology. Take Boston College, for example: it's one of the most prestigious, credible schools in the country, but it's still called "college." (Though that's not exactly an ideal example, because it is, indeed, a university, but lacks that title because a Boston University already exists.) Back on topic though, I think the issue ultimately revolves around finances, just as most such issues with higher education tend to do. A community college is pretty much universally less expensive than even a state school for which you would be an in-state student, so if money is a major concern then it's sometimes wise to get a two year degree at a community college and then complete a bachelor's degree at a four year school. Alternatively, go to a four year school for the full four years, but take some credits at the community college over summer or winter vacations - ideally, you'd be able to graduate a semester (or even a year or more) earlier, because many of your credits would have been fulfilled outside of the normal term. And you'd save money because, for one thing, every semester you cut off your graduation time is a semester of room and board fees that are saved, and those credits that were taken at a community school are going to cost less than the same credits at a four year college. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| Yeah, I need to remember that the US doesn't have that break in terms as strongly as we do. You can be at a college, but it is usually a University Of So and So College. Normally colleges are just technical institutes for the "lesser" (note the quotes) positions. Like a weaker business program. Advertising. Graphical design. And then apprenticeships. Stuff like that. | |||
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SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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| I'm planning on majoring in economics (or joint with mathamatics), and to clarify, I'll have a year completed in advance towards any University of California or collunity college in California by the end of my senior year, if all goes to plan. What I'm asking is: is the experience in the freshman and sophomore years worth the massive dollar amount it costs? Unless one is talking about Berkeley, the course selection is almost exactly the same. Speaking of which, does anyone here go, or has gone, to a college/university in California? Since if you do, I want to hear about it. Or even college in general, and I really want to know why you hold that preference.
And to not muddle anyone up, I'm talking about the UC(University of California) system, not the CSU(California State University) system. College can refer to a university, as a category. |
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Young Guru Snifit  Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6285 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| I grew up in California and I know people that have gone directly from HS to a UC and others that have done HS to CC to UC. In general, the people that have gone directly to UC from HS have enjoyed their college experience a lot more. There's a lot of growing that goes on when you move away from home and start at college. Those that went to CC had to be really self-motivated to keep their course work up but they eventually transfered to UCs. I don't know about transfering in a single year from a CC, everyone I know did two years at CC and then two at UC. Anyways, if you can find a way to go the full four years at UC I think it'll be the better course of action. The thing is though, that opinion might only matter for the next 5-10 years and after that whether you did a 2 and 2 or just 4 years at UC might not really matter to you at all. Just out of curiousity, which UC are you thinking about? | |||
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SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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Originally posted by Young Guru I'll have finished enough credits for an entire year of college by the end of this year. AP tests and whatsnot--making my to-be college GPA higher than my high school one, not oddly enough, and much to my dismay. But about what UC I want to go to, Berkeley is one because of the focus on a specific major I'm looking into in economics, but I'm guaranteed admission to UCSD through the community college, and it's a lot closer, and I've heard they have a good economics department. UCSB and UCLA are also ones I've considered, although I was pretty sure that UCSB was more towards engineering. I kind of liked University of Chicago, but it's even more expensive and hard to get into, and I haven't been there in person, just read about it. So UoC is out of the question, more or less. And I've heard Berkeley is a pain to get into. But really, what's so great about the full university experience, does something happen? If it's social, I might just not be interested. |
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Black Lord + Flurry Since: 11-17-05 From: Where indians still roam... Last post: 6280 days Last view: 6281 days |
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| I'm pretty sure most colleges don't count your AP courses toward you GPA, they just give you the credit hours for them. As far as I know anyway.
And as far as where you go to school... a lot of place will look at where you graduated from when considering you for a job. |
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SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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Originally posted by Black Lord + However, the college courses I've taken do count towards GPA, and I'm pretty sure the second part would be intuitive. Hence why I plan on transfering, so that I can work on my major at a university. |
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SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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| Last week, I visited San Francisco, and on the way, visited Berekley and Stanford. Needless to say, I was disappointed. Besides, I've been hearing that UCSD has a stellar economics program anyways, so that would work out nicely. | |||
neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day  Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| Just choose a school where you will like where you will be at--since it is your home for the next two years. UCSD is a great school and I've many friends who go there. If you don't like Berkeley or Stanford, don't go--you will get the same concepts in Economics if you went to any other school--you might not get the "prestige" that comes with the school. Some students select Berkeley or Stanford based on name sake, in that they will use the school's name to get a good job. But keep in mind, your school may get you your first job, but it is what you do at your first job that determines whereelse you will go in life. | |||
Danielle  6730 Administratorrrr HELLO THERE   Since: 11-17-05 From: California Rate me ^_^ Last post: 6280 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| Just in case anyone outside of America is still confused about the difference: Community Colleges are mostly 2-year colleges that offer most of the same classes for much cheaper, but have no dorms or anything like that. They're like a high school, but you can earn credits to transfer to a university.
The three types of universities in CA are CSUs (cal state universities, ex: San Francisco state, san diego state), UCs (university of cali, ex: UCLA) and private (ex: USC). You can transfer to any of those with enough community college credits, however you have to keep your grades up if you plan on transfering to highly competitive schools. Most kids seem to go straight to university, which is a better experience in more ways than one... but it also costs much more. The only reason that kids (around here, at least) go to a community college is if they didn't have good enough grades to get into a university, or they're just not ready for it yet and want another two years before moving out and whatnot. I'll personally be attending a CSU, and I'm very excited about it. I have no interest in a CC. But really, the most important thing is that you're happy with wherever you end up, at least until you can choose to transfer elsewhere. |
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Schweiz oder etwas [12:55] (Dr_Death16); I swear, the word drama needs to be stricken from the dictionary, for I've heard it so many times, it will permanently be imprinted on my brain  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kingston, Rhode Island Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6279 days |
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| There isn't much in the way of a community college here in RI... Depending on where you go, you're either going to 13th grade, or you're going to what would be more accurately termed as a college prep school.
While our main Community College is an excellent place for applied learning degrees such as graphics and business, it has some weaknesses in the areas of sciences and some forms of higher-level education. It's a school to go to to get a job, as opposed to a school to go to to get a degree. From my understanding, many Community Colleges are like that, and not all CC students transfer to higher education facilities. Me, I just started off direct with University. I don't regret it, my grades in high school gave me a full scholarship as long as I can keep my GPA up. You might want to start thinking about something for a post-University form of education, if you want to pursue a degree higher than a Bachelor's, like a Master's or a Doctorate. |
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SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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Originally posted by Grey I've thought about what you've said about the weaknesses in scientific areas, and I've already completed the credit equivalent for Chemistry, and hoping to complete the credit requirement for Physics in May. I would have wanted to complete linear algebra at CC, but problems in junior year mean that I can't unless I take the BC test and get a 5, an impossibility, seeing as I'm in AB, although there's a lot of intercept. And I had to retake AB because I flunked it last year before withdrawal date. But it seems like I'll be forced to start that in junior year of college. Yuck. |
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SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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| Day I of Micro Economics.
Everyone around me is old, and smelly. I'm the only one actually pursuing an economics-based degree. K. |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6281 days Last view: 6279 days |
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Where are you taking micro-econ? An environment like that is usually found like a community college...or during finals  |
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SamuraiX Broom Hatter Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6279 days Last view: 6280 days |
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| Yeah, it's at a community college, but it is finals week for me. And why would finals make everyone old and smelly? Smelly, I can suppose, but old? Macro economics final tomorrow. O= |
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