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Kyoufu Kawa
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-10-05 04:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Keitaro

I'm just trying to save myself and everyone else numerous headaches in the future.
My reasons eggsackly.

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‚¨‚©‚¾‚¶‚ã‚É‚¿ƒNƒ??[ƒ“ says:
i also didnt see anyone bitching when no$ made you register WITH MONEY to PLAY GBA games, you are allowing them to edit them, for free, and they bitch and moan.

Can we go back to the whole "Kawa blatantly advertising his crap" topic now?


(edited by Kyoufu Kawa on 12-10-05 03:10 PM)
Guy Perfect









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Posted on 12-10-05 04:53 PM Link | Quote
Hey, that "Product Activation" thing is an awesome idea. You know why? Because that means software developers are able to exert control over how their technologies are used.

Brilliant! Together, Kawa, you and I will further my dream of removing the Public Domain once and for all! BWAHAHA! Then the only thing left will be corporately-controlled commerce! The public won't have any say in the matter! BWAHAHA again!

You, Kyoufu Kawa, are one of the most delightfully evil people I've ever met. Well done. Once they find out you're manipulating them with illegal activities in the first place, it will already be too late. Excellent scheme you've come up with.
Kyoufu Kawa
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-10-05 05:04 PM Link | Quote
I take it you don't like it then?
Guy Perfect









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Posted on 12-10-05 05:15 PM Link | Quote
I'm one of those open-source junkies, so I have a natural predisposition to disliking the manipulation of fair use.

Though I do warn you: The Nintendo GBA and everything in it (particularly the music engine coded into the system's BIOS) is protected under U.S. and international copyright laws. Of them, Title 17, Chapter 13, Section 1309 states the following two regulations:


(a) Acts of Infringement. - Except as provided in subsection (b), it shall be infringement of the exclusive rights in a design protected under this chapter for any person, without the consent of the owner of the design, within the United States and during the term of such protection, to -

(1) make, have made, or import, for sale or for use in trade, any infringing article as defined in subsection (e); or

(2) sell or distribute for sale or for use in trade any such infringing article.

(e) Infringing Article Defined. - As used in this section, an "infringing article" is any article the design of which has been copied from a design protected under this chapter, without the consent of the owner of the protected design. An infringing article is not an illustration or picture of a protected design in an advertisement, book, periodical, newspaper, photograph, broadcast, motion picture, or similar medium. A design shall not be deemed to have been copied from a protected design if it is original and not substantially similar in appearance to a protected design.
While ROM hacking in itself is not illegal, it does fit the description of an infringing article defined in subsection (e) by being a design copied from another design protected under the copyright law. Releasing hacks and utilities to the public domain is not illegal.

However, requiring a registration falls under the category of "for use in trade" as documented in subsection (a). Since, as mentioned before, the utility qualifies as an infringing article, and since, as just mentioned, the registration counts as use in trade, releasing the utility under both conditions constitues a legal copyright infringement.

As such, the Entertainment Software Association has been given executive authority in hundreds of countries around the world to enforce criminal prosecution in regards to international copyright laws (which is why the U.S. law I posted here is a threat).

If you include this registration feature, Kawa, you're exposing yourself to potential criminal prosecution to the fullest extent of the law... any law that's applicable in international copyrights.
Kyoufu Kawa
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-10-05 05:45 PM Link | Quote
Excuse me while I laugh at laws.

But really, if the majority says I should remove the lock, I will.
Stifu









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Posted on 12-10-05 05:58 PM Link | Quote
I won't use your program (simply because I'm not into GBA hacking), but I still don't think that lock is necessary. Just make your program userfriendly enough, and well documented if necessary, and things should be fine... A couple of n00bs are likely to ask for help once in a while, but that's no big deal... It won't change the face of earth or anything. It's not like you have to answer to such topics either.
Dan

Purple Leever


 





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Posted on 12-10-05 05:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kyoufu Kawa
But really, if the majority says I should remove the lock, I will.


Remove the lock. There will always be bad hacks whether you limit it to "worthy" people or not. If you don't want bad hacks, just don't release the thing at all, that's the only sure fire way to avoid them.
Kyoufu Kawa
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-10-05 06:00 PM Link | Quote
Okay. I'll go remove the lock right after I post this, but don't say I didn't warn you all...


*Kyoufu Kawa loads up VB.

Edit: Okay. Lock's out. Saved 4 kb. Can we go back to the threads original topic now?


(edited by Kyoufu Kawa on 12-10-05 05:05 PM)
Stifu









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Posted on 12-10-05 06:08 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dan
If you don't want bad hacks, just don't release the thing at all

As I said, there will always be bad hacks whatever he does... Whether they got bad musics or not. Sooo either way...
Kyoufu Kawa
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Posted on 12-10-05 06:10 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kyoufu Kawa

Can we go back to the threads original topic now?
Don't make me break out the randomized bouncing fairies!
Keitaro

Mole


 





Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-10-05 06:36 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BGNG
I'm one of those open-source junkies, so I have a natural predisposition to disliking the manipulation of fair use.

Though I do warn you: The Nintendo GBA and everything in it (particularly the music engine coded into the system's BIOS) is protected under U.S. and international copyright laws.



Music engine isn't coded into the bios. Sappy, or to be mor eprecise, m4a, is an engine of its own, alone, and is in no way built in to the BIOS. The fact that the bios's loading sound uses the engine is entirely coincidental--the engine can't be accessed from this in the game.
Imajin

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Since: 12-05-05
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Posted on 12-10-05 06:41 PM Link | Quote
It certainly sounds like a great utility, and hopefully we'll see more GBA tools to come (As far as I know, there's not much outside the Pokemon games, but I've been out of the loop for awhile)..
Kyoufu Kawa
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Posted on 12-10-05 06:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Keitaro

Music engine isn't coded into the bios.
More specifically, M4A uses some BIOS functions to do it's magic, including the MidiKey2Freq function most commonly known for it's use in BIOS dumping!

On a side note...




(edited by Kyoufu Kawa on 12-10-05 05:43 PM)
Keitaro

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Posted on 12-10-05 07:03 PM Link | Quote
Kawa: On another side note, while fucking around with the engine earlier today, I realised that rythm kit pan and square ch1's sweep share..or rather, are both stored to, the 4th bye of the 0xC patch data. Sweep is 00-7F, pan is 80 and beyond ranging from -64 to 63. Setting both probably causes an error in mks4agb.ini, I havn't tried it and really don't care to. But yeah, multi-functional byte, just thought I'd throw that out there for you incase your code dosn't emulate it yet. (I thought Bouche's original code was slightly inaccurate at handling the CGB square channels in the original Sappy 1 )


(edited by Keitaro on 12-10-05 06:08 PM)
Kyoufu Kawa
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Posted on 12-10-05 07:13 PM Link | Quote
Thank you. I'll have to re-read that post a couple times when I start caring about it again. I'm not using the original Sappy 1 code tho, so maybe it's already done (better).
Someguy

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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 12-10-05 07:16 PM Link | Quote
It sounded elitest, but the locking function was simply for the hacking parts. Any user can still use Sappy 2005 to play the music either way. It solved many problems too, users simply had to contact Kawa or others well known in using the program, if they seemed compitent enough to use it, they got the code, otherwise they may risk not just "making crappy music hacks", but ruining their own roms, which they may not of backed up and such.
Kyoufu Kawa
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Posted on 12-10-05 07:20 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Someguy

...otherwise they may risk not just "making crappy music hacks", but also ruining their own roms, which they may not of backed up and such, so they come whining on the board.
Edited for truth, justice and definately not the american way.


Xkeeper
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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 12-11-05 04:13 PM Link | Quote
People release crappy music hacks? Here's a solution:

DON'T PLAY THEM

(pity I missed the bitching party. however this helpful advice can be applied to many things, such as KKK mario hacks and other such bullshit, esp. "glitch mario" lolloolloolo.)


(edited by Xkeeper on 12-11-05 03:16 PM)
Datahax

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Posted on 12-11-05 04:51 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kyoufu Kawa
Originally posted by Keitaro

Music engine isn't coded into the bios.
More specifically, M4A uses some BIOS functions to do it's magic, including the MidiKey2Freq function most commonly known for it's use in BIOS dumping!

On a side note...




BOOBIES!

sorry....had to do that.

On-Topic the program sounds ace....can't wait.
Keitaro

Mole


 





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Posted on 12-11-05 07:55 PM Link | Quote
...if I had read mks4agb.ini, it actualy says that panpot is disabled when sc1dt??'s sweep is activated. wow, I'm slow but yeah...still something to keep in mind, in case the code only supports sweeep/pan/sweep on chanels besides sc1dt??/etc..since the byte has multiple purposes outside of sweep


(edited by Keitaro on 12-11-05 06:56 PM)
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