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Posted on 12-25-06 01:34 AM Link | Quote
Assuming the first instance of the word "issue" is supposed to say "comparison"... I drew a comparison between the issuers of those two laws, yes. Not because I wanted to point and say that our "current authorities are as bad as the Nazis", but because I wanted to point and say they are using the same methods to ensure a one-opinion system. And again, in the end, it's not multiple parties that make up a working democracy - it's multiple opinions.
In a society that considers itself a vessel of liberty and free speech in an increasingly radicalized and totalitarian world, you should be able to say that one plus one is three, the Romans invented the Internet or the Holocaust didn't occur without fearing to be put behind bars for it.
(And yes, my actual point was to draw a "superfluous and questionable" comparison between saying the Holocaust didn't occur and any other absurd statement)
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:39 AM Link | Quote
All that I have to say about this would be that I'm against suppressing any opinion in an accepted "free speech" country. No matter how wrong, immoral, or disturbing one may think a certain opinion is, these "crazy" opinions exist for a good reason in general; they present a sharp contrast to the "true" or accepted opinions, thereby strengthening those "truths" in society, and also, freedom of these opinions keeps them out in the open where they can be openly scrutinized and debated as opposed to them being "underground" and out of the public eye.
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:43 AM Link | Quote
Well, even in countries where there aren't laws pertaining to Holocaust denial...these people are still underground and out of the public eye. Why do you say? Because to be in the public eye with such extreme views and propensity towards violence and agitation...Well, you don't need hate crime laws to be charged with that stuff. Hate crime laws are a good thing (tm) because they keep these people cornered, boxed in, and make it more difficult to spread their ideology.

Although, in all honesty. Equating absolute freedom to democracy is absolutely preposterous. Although I'd say that the world at this point is back-sliding from totalitarianism. I'd really like to see you prove such an increase in such regimes around the world.
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:48 AM Link | Quote
The decrease in count of regimes we call totalitarian is just because of the natural relativity of our point of view. Most of the western world is approaching a police state situation at a speed faster than Osama could speak on a hate video.

Though I'd like to open up a separate thread for that... since this one already reached the state of plentiful Nazi comparisons and touched the topic, I'll just go ahead and state that the current model of "international terrorism" is very well comparable in credibility, evidence, way of being used, scale and purpose to the "Jewish conspiracy" model under the Nazis. Both seemed perfectly plausible from an unsuspecting citizen in the respective system point of view too.
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:50 AM Link | Quote
Well, yeah. I guess 9/11 is nothing more than a pamphlet sent out by the Russian intelligence agency in the late 19th century...
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Posted on 12-25-06 01:53 AM Link | Quote
9/11 happened, and I will not speculate as to whether it were the CIA, the freemasons or the more probably hypothesis of a bunch of islamist nuts with knives.

Under the Nazis, it can be taken for granted there was an incident when a jew shot the German ambassador in Paris as well. (edit: link)

Go figure what my point is.


(edited by Satan Claus (oops typo) on 12-24-06 07:59 PM)
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