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Posted on 12-10-06 07:14 PM Link | Quote
Remember when Cassini was launched?

It had a plutonium load on board for the reactor. NASA has been doing that for ages. But people were worried that, should the launch fail in the atmosphere, it would cause the mad contamination. Regardless of the cost, that risk is still there. I'm all for putting money into studying reactor designs that will allow us to reuse the waste time and time again. Or look into the possibility of sinking financial backing into new technology to minimize the danger.
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Posted on 12-10-06 09:07 PM Link | Quote
See, the thing is, we do have the technology to reuse spent nuclear fuel, it's a bit expensive, but we have it and it's very workable and very safe (seeing as only 6 nations that use nuclear fuel don't reuse their spent fuel). The main issue people have with reusing spent fuel is that you create plutonium in the process. This plutonium is used in the reactor, but it can also be used, if large enough quantites are taken, to create a bomb (this was actually the initial use of nuclear reactors, to farm up large quantites of weapons grade plutonium in the 1940s). To me this problem has a very simple solution, employ military* (preferable reserves) to do security and guard the nuclear plants. What does this do, it creates jobs, it makes the material as safe as possible (assumming that the government can trust it's only military) and we're using our fuel in the most efficient way possible. Who knows, maybe one day it'll catch on that unnecessary waste should not happen, because right now we view nuclear fuel as an unlimited supply, but if I recall correctly, that's pretty much how we've treated hydro-carbons and look where that's got us, people panicing that we're going to run out of petro in 10 years, others saying 50, still more saying 100, but we're facing the reality that there really is no unlimited resource and we need to start treating nuclear fuel the same (not to mention the benefit of having to deal with less waste material).

*I think that some would fear brining the military into the process (which I don't see as totaly unfounded) but nuclear plants already have a lot of government oversight and I could see the use of regular security in the plants (with a priority on electronic (redundant) security systems in the reactors) but the use of military as a guard would probably appease the masses more than a private security firm.
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Posted on 12-12-06 02:20 AM Link | Quote
Also, another fun link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6171053.stm
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Posted on 12-23-06 10:59 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Young Guru
Whether or not you believe that global warming is real or not, caused by man or just natural, the issue of pollution still exists.

This is perhaps the most important sentence in this thread. If you really don't believe in global warming, fine, but you simply can't deny that pollution is still a big problem. Go to downtown Toronto and look up. Can you see the sun? Clouds? In the more crowded areas, you see nothing but smog. Pure pollution. I don't even know how people can breathe there anymore.
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Posted on 12-24-06 02:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Alice
Originally posted by Young Guru
Whether or not you believe that global warming is real or not, caused by man or just natural, the issue of pollution still exists.

This is perhaps the most important sentence in this thread. If you really don't believe in global warming, fine, but you simply can't deny that pollution is still a big problem. Go to downtown Toronto and look up. Can you see the sun? Clouds? In the more crowded areas, you see nothing but smog. Pure pollution. I don't even know how people can breathe there anymore.



I call shenanigans on this thing. I live right in the heart of Toronto at Bay and College It really isn't bad.
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Posted on 12-24-06 04:43 AM Link | Quote
Ok, go to Gary, Indiana instead.

Just be sure to leave before you get cancer.
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Posted on 12-24-06 07:42 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by emcee
Ok, go to Gary, Indiana instead.

Just be sure to leave before you get cancer.



Yeah, I grew up in one of the most industrial areas of Canada right near one of the factories and less than 12 miles from the nuclear reactor to my east (40 from the one to the west). I think I know enough about pollution and the effects it can have on a population. Don't have kids were I grew up.
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Posted on 12-24-06 07:25 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by emcee
Ok, go to Gary, Indiana instead.

Just be sure to leave before you get cancer.

And Chop your nose off before you get there, because those plants stink up a storm. It's a nice indicator when we're taking the south shore line to chicago, we always know when we're near the border.
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Posted on 12-25-06 06:53 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination
I call shenanigans on this thing. I live right in the heart of Toronto at Bay and College It really isn't bad.

No, not all of Toronto is nearly that bad. Some places though are just vomit-inducing.
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