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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - General Chat - POOL, i mean SCHOOL CLOSED DUE TO AIDS |
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Graviteh Red Paragoomba                  Since: 11-20-05 Last post: 6385 days Last view: 6385 days |
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note: school isnt closed, i just needed to make that pun. (edited by Graviteh on 11-21-06 09:47 PM) |
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SantaMushroom Bit  Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6299 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| That teacher is an idiot... I can't believe he even got the job in the first place! >8( | |||
Rom Manic   Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| I'm glad the American defense budget is being spent wisely, at least. | |||
Randy53215 Melon Bug Since: 11-17-05 From: Greenfield, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Rom Manic Heh, re-uses it 30 times. Thats terrible, however im glad the chances for any diseases in that age group is low.  |
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Ailure Mr. Shine I just want peace...  Since: 11-17-05 From: Sweden Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Didn't this already happened once before? xD But yeah, there's a reason why lancets are one-use... and thrown away in a container with the frickkin biological risk label.  |
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drjayphd Torosu OW! BURNY!  Since: 11-18-05 From: CT Last post: 6299 days Last view: 6297 days |
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...and I thought I fucked up as a sub.  |
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Danielle     6730 Administratorrrr HELLO THERE   Since: 11-17-05 From: California Rate me ^_^ Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| How amusing... poor guy. How does such an important fact slip his mind? Needles shouldn't be shared! | |||
HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I have only one thing to say to this guy. |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now.  Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| That's retarded. You don't look at blood cells in grade school bio lab anyway. You swab your fucking cheek.
"He made a big mistake." Yeah, that's an understatement. The kids should have known better in the first place and not volunteered, though. |
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Alastor Fearless Moderator Hero  Since: 11-17-05 From: An apartment by DigiPen, Redmond, Washington Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by KasdarackHa ha, your school must have been behind as hell. |
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n3g-Z3r0 theory Rat Since: 01-09-06 From: Augusta, Ks Last post: 6339 days Last view: 6316 days |
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| This was in our school newspaper...Our "reporter" for this thought it happened in our school.....he was a fucktard though. Anyway all I want to know is, What was he thinking?!?!? | |||
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Rom Manic Since: 12-18-05 From: Detroit, WHAT?! Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Alastor the Stylish Crazy talk! NO child will be left behind THIS term! |
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Metal Man88 Gold axe It appears we have been transported to a time in which everything is on fire! Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Rom ManicOriginally posted by Alastor the Stylish Get out the chains! We gotta drag those children to the next grade! Anything to hide the fact those books that say the Soviet Union are out to kill us all are still used! |
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Jilkon Cappy  Since: 11-27-05 From: Teh Sweden Last post: 6378 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| While I am one of the few people that dare question whether hiv actually causes aids (good luck finding a bigger taboo) I still have to agree that that is pretty stupid. | |||
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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That's kinda like questioning whether the common cold causes coughing. Unless you have some rational basis for this theory that you'd like to share. |
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Jilkon Cappy Since: 11-27-05 From: Teh Sweden Last post: 6378 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| First of all, they are still researching whether or not it actually does cause aids, that's why the "time for it to cause aids" keeps going up every 5 or so years. It was 5-10 years in the start, it's up to 25-30 years now.
Second, viruses don't just lie dormant and wait for decades, viruses cause diseases (if any) after 30 minutes to 30 days or so, this goes for _all_ viruses. (Sidenote: one of the criteria for diseases to be called infectous is that the thing that causes the disease (in this case supposedly hiv) always causes the disease in another host. This is not the case.) Third, the normal treatment of a disease is to remove that which causes the symptoms (note: there are no symptoms until you actually get aids), the problem in this case is that HIV lives on the immune system (doing nothing after the initial infection mind you), so they try to kill it. This kills the immune system as well. This causes aids. Fun huh? Fourth, the way they actually check if someone has hiv is by seeing if their body has developed antibodies for hiv, not actually by looking for hiv. So technically a person "infected" by hiv is instead immune to it. (pre-emptive counter counter argument: why would hiv be able to mutate freely unlike every other virus in the world, viruses are made out of a handful of cells and need most/all of them to reproduce and so does hiv.) Fifth, no other retroviruses (which hiv is) have been proven to cause any form of disease in humans. There's more, but those five are enough to warrant search for alternate causes imo. But like I said, it's taboo to even think outside the box in this issue. Also, for the hell of it, I'll start calling it HTLV-III instead of HIV. |
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HyperHacker Star Mario Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_< Wii #7182 6487 4198 1828 Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada, w00t! My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn. STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^( Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by Jilkon You mean like the common cold and the flu? |
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Lakithunder Darknut  Since: 09-18-06 From: The Wind Fish's Dream Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| I heard a rumor that about oh, say, I think like 10 years ago my school was closed for like a week because the principal found out that a kid had HIV. And apparently he died like 3 years ago...I realy don't know if this is true or not... |
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Sweet Kassy Molassy Out of ice cream and PB. Would KILL for a milkshake right now. Since: 06-17-06 From: LoozeeAnna Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6297 days |
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Originally posted by Jilkon Umm... I'm pretty sure that would be because we have better drugs and treatments to slow its effects and it is more widely known about and people with it know how to better take carfe of themselves. Originally posted by Jilkon Ummm... no. Virii are composed of nucleic acids and a protein coat. They are not cells, and do not reproduce on thier own. They insert thier dna into a cells nucleus (or in HIV's case, the viral RNA is transcripted into cDNA which is then integrated into a cell's nucleus, where it can lie dormant for long periods of time. Long story short it tells the cell to make more viral particles, yadda yadda. As for "omg how does it mutate wtf...?" Reverse transcription is very imperfect and that is the reason your mutations are caused. Some of these mutations result in new virii being assembled which resist drugs and current antibodies. Does that about cover it? (edited by Kasdarack on 11-27-06 10:44 AM) |
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Jilkon Cappy Since: 11-27-05 From: Teh Sweden Last post: 6378 days Last view: 6327 days |
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| The entire thing they suggest is that the virus actually mutates inside the body to adapt to the immune system. That's not what happens with common colds, they don't exactly stay in your body your whole life and just learn how to fight against you.
Another interesting thing to note is the cases of aids without hiv, something they've solved by adding more things to the list of "aids diseases" and by actually declaring such cases not aids. Which means a patient with aids + hiv gets the diagnosis of aids immediately, while the other guy with, say, EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME SYMPTOMS is only sick in the particular diseases and suffering from some weird immune system disorder that is not aids. Also, you guys aren't even willing to accept that there might be a different answer, which proves at least one of my points right. Standard scientific procedure when shit doesn't work out is to try a different way, scientists have been hellbent on this one same thing for decades and no one is allowed to even think that it might be wrong. |
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