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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - The Pit of Despair - Vertical scrolling (tiny ASM hack inside) |
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Which type of scrolling do you prefer?| Please read the post before voting! | Normal scrolling |
13.6%, 3 votes | Free scrolling |
86.4%, 19 votes | Multi-voting is disabled. 22 users have voted.
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BMF54123                    Since: 11-18-05 From: MOOGLES Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| First, an explanation, and the aforementioned ASM hack...
As you've almost certainly noticed, SMW's vertical scrolling is a little bit odd...you have to actually land on a solid platform before the screen will scroll upwards. This can make quickly navigating vertical shafts a bit tricky, especially if there are enemies just offscreen, and (in my opinion) it just makes the game feel less "fluid" overall. I've figured out a way to disable this behavior, so the vertical scrolling always follows Mario, just like horizontal scrolling does. In a hex editor, simply change the byte at $7A78 (normally D0) to 80. This will bypass the routine that checks whether Mario is standing on solid ground or not (RAM address $72) and sets the scrolling flag accordingly. Now, about the poll... Go ahead and try this out in your ROM (it's easy to reverse, just change the same address back to D0), then let me know which type of scrolling you prefer: normal (SMW's default behavior), or free (the "hacked" behavior). I'm debating whether or not I should put this in my hack, and I need some feedback before I make such a relatively drastic change... |
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Pac Bandit Free Ice Man!  Since: 11-18-05 From: Ireland Rate me Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Free Scrolling, thank you BMF!  |
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Neo Cheep-cheep  Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Free Scrolling too
Thanks now i can make the Level higher  |
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Simon Red Paragoomba  Since: 11-18-05 From: Lund - Sweden Last post: 6494 days Last view: 6494 days |
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| I voted for normal scrolling. After all, Nintendo did put the routine in there for a reason. The routine gives you a good overlook of the scene you're jumping in, when it was bypassed I felt kind of uncomfortable while jumping as I didn't really get a good look of the ground under my feet and wasn't 100% sure about where I would land. An alternative would be if you could make the screen scroll vertically only when Mario reaches a certain height. That way, Mario wouldn't be able to jump out of the screen, but when jumping in a horizontal direction, the screen would stay comfortably still in the vertical plane. | |||
Stifu Since: 11-18-05 From: Your mom's bed Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Although that doesn't answer the question, it could be nice to have something inbetween, I don't know if that's possible... "Normal" scrolling may be a bit too extreme, while totally free and perfect scrolling may give the game a somewhat "robotic" feeling...
If that's not possible, then I'd just go for free scrolling... Simply because it'll make the game feel more different from the original (but not "worse" really). And that's what hacks are about... |
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Link2006 Octoballoon  Since: 11-18-05 From: Kokiri Forest Last post: 6304 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| I voted for the new scrooling. Normal scrolling sucks. I often couldn't see whats at the top because the screen refuse to scrool up because I didn't land, allowing me to take damage. At least now the screen can scrool up as I jump, enabling me to make better vertical levels. (edited by Link2006 on 12-08-05 07:42 PM) |
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Someguy Tooky Since: 11-17-05 From: West Virginia-USA Last post: 6301 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| Is it possible to make the scrolling scroll up when you get close to the top, and/or you hold up/down, perhaps whilst holding l and r or somesuch? | |||
asdf Link's Awakening ಠ_ಠ  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| It's about time somebody fixed this. Nice job, BMF. I'll definetly be doing this. It could make a certain level I plan to make that involves boost blocks a lot better. |
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Stifu Since: 11-18-05 From: Your mom's bed Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| On a site note, do those kinds of small hacks get referenced/saved anywhere ?
I mean this thread may disappear at some point, or get burried... And it'd be a shame to lose information like that. It would be nice to have some kind of well organized site that would have a list of all the known ASM hacks and offsets, if there aren't some already (I'm not really up to date on SMW hacking or anything)... |
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Glyphodon Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6317 days |
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| Uh, here. | |||
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Stifu Since: 11-18-05 From: Your mom's bed Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Glyph Phoenix Heh... Okay, but: -This isn't "organized", this is quite messy actually -BMF's scrolling hack isn't there, for example -I think I was going to say something else, but I forgot...  |
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Deleted User Banned    Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6296 days |
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| Free Scrolling! :o (edited by legoman on 12-09-05 08:25 AM) |
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Deleted User Banned Since: 05-08-06 Last post: None Last view: 6296 days |
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| Free scrolling, of course, I want new things! | |||
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Kailieann Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6295 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Originally posted by Stifu *points at the sixth post in the thread* I'm supposed to be working on a rom offset database, but that would require effort. <EDIT> Something just occurred to me. Could you make it so that it checks Mario's position relative to the screen's position so that it starts scrolling if Mario gets too close to the top, instead of just following him around all the time? Obviously that would take more effort, but I think it would be a nice compromise. (edited by Kailieann on 12-11-05 11:59 AM) (edited by Kailieann on 12-11-05 01:12 PM) |
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SuperKawaiiNeko Paragoomba  Since: 11-23-05 From: Dream Chaser Last post: 6323 days Last view: 6323 days |
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| I voted normal scrolling for one simple reason. How many levels are all, or even mostly vertical in orientation? (does that sound like sexual innuendo to anybody else?) And then, on regular levels, the screen is going to be shaking and bopping around whenever you do so much as hop a gap or jump on a goomba? No thanks. This isnt Sonic.
First posts are keen. (edited by SuperKawaiiNeko on 12-11-05 01:11 PM) |
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