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Wurl                  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6336 days |
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| There are many, many different political ideologies, but which do you fit/consider youself? I am a socialist that believes in strong state sponsored programs to help the poor and provide extensive public services. I also believe that a government has no right to strongly intervine in personal affairs (marriage sex, drugs, ect.), unless they harm another person (rape, murder, ect.).
If you're not sure of your ideology a good, although not extremely thourogh, way to tell is http://www.politicalcompass.org/ I'd like to have this be a civilized, open discussion of ideologies. |
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Doppelganger 8DS   Since: 11-17-05 From: 65 00 20 00 65 00 1F 00 65 00 2F 00 Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.26 At least according to this test, and I agree with what most of Wurl said. The government, in my belief, has no right to pry into a person's private and personal life, unless any wrongdoing is at hand. I also firmly believe in the seperation of church and state. |
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Sinfjotle Lordly? No, not quite.   Since: 11-17-05 From: Kansas Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13 Why do I get the extreme things? I do agree with Wurl after all... but really, I support choice. Its your life, YOU choose what YOU want to do with YOUR life. (That sounds lame, even when I say it ._.) |
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max Blipper  i'm a pixie !!! Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6555 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.49 There are better tests than this one out there, but sadly I can't find any of them. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.51 I'm a democratic socialist. I try to keep a safe distant from the Old Guard of the various DS parties because of its hard-line rhetoric, and I try to keep VERY FAR AWAY from the Third Way of people like Gary Doer and Tony Blair. I just wish that the various DS parties would do as they did in the 70s and tap the populist vote. |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6336 days |
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| Heh, in the U.S. socialists get yelled at and at times, jailed. I was borderline anarchist on social issues and -7 to -8 range on the economy.
And Max, there are better tests, but this was quick and one of the better ones. Though if anybody has a better test, please feel free to post it. |
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Schweiz oder etwas [12:55] (Dr_Death16); I swear, the word drama needs to be stricken from the dictionary, for I've heard it so many times, it will permanently be imprinted on my brain  Since: 11-17-05 From: Kingston, Rhode Island Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.18 I'm a Ghandi kinda guy. What can I say? I like to think, though, that socially and economically I am more ruthless than this compass suggests, I simply have a lot of idealism that points towards the individual and the individual's rights to choose how to live their life and to do right or wrong. Oh, another thing: I DO consider myself a neocommunist, in that I do believe that the government should definitely have control over businesses both to regulate distribution of product and to ensure that a fair, rather than free, market exists. Gigantic companies and mass production only lead to a lower standard of quality among products. I have always held this belief, ever since I began reading about mass production and the economy in my spare time. (edited by Grey on 11-18-05 05:48 PM) |
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Salmon Red Cheep-cheep Since: 11-18-05 From: Norway Last post: 6310 days Last view: 6299 days |
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| Pacifist, environmentalist, social democrat/democratic socialist, with certain social liberal tendencies - that's what I usually label myself as.
I believe in people's rights to make descicions for themselves. However, as I don't believe in the "giving everyone freedom to do whatever = giving everyone freedom to do whatever"-argument, I believe that a strong state must be maintained to ensure that everyone's freedoms are protected, and that no one oversteps their boundraries and basically removes the freedoms of others. I also believe that everyone, no matter who they are or where they belong, should be able to live out and realize their potential to the fullest (I'm a Maslow-fan), and that only in a society where equality is sought after, can everyone be ensured to have a chance at realizing their potential, as it is pretty much impossible to realize your potential if you haven't had anything to eat. I believe that, in the end, this will serve society the best, as it ensures a peaceful, stable society with good citizens living their lives to the fullest, eventually moving society forward, as no progress will be made in a society where citizens are thwarted from reaching their potential. All in all, I believe in an egalitarian society, with a strong state, where people are free to live out their potential. This would put me as a socialist. However, seeing as how I'm a pacifist, as well, and thus I do not believe in violence, I cannot be a revolutionary socialist. Historically, that would make me a social democrat, believeing in achieveing socialism through reform, not revolution. However, as I am what you can call a "radical social democrat" or a "leftist social democrat", I tend to group myself with the democratic socialists, still believeing in achieveing socialism througn democracy, but taking a generally more socialist stand through pragmatic politics. Partywise, I'm a member of the Socialist Left Party, an environmentalist, socialist Norwegian political party with parliamentary represenation and a few ministers in the current Norwegian government. |
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jeff Double metal axe  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| simply put i believe that people should be free to follow their dreams, but for justice i believe any infringe on someone else's ability to follow a dream is terrible. | |||
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6336 days |
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Originally posted by The SomerZ There's a big deifference between Social Democrat and Democratic Socialist. A Social Democrat is a fairly conservative socialist, some even believe in capitalism. A good example is the SPD in Germany. A Democratic Socialist is a strong socialist that sees strong participatory democracy as essential to a working socialist state. Democratic Socialists are very leftward and advocate personal freedom. Most serious leftist movements follow the Democratic Socialist model, though there are several Athouritarian Socialist movements, like various Maoist groups. However, pro-facsist socialists are in the minority. For the most part, both Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists are pacifists, though some of the later believe in revolution, provided serious enough offenses. I myself am a Democratic Socialist and, in general, a pacifist. I am not totaly opposed to revolution as a last resort under extreme conditions. Many good points SomerZ. |
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jeff Double metal axe Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| oh yeah, i'm a pacifist too. i don't like physical violence, but i'll admit that verbal fighting is fun. | |||
Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6295 days |
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| New model social democrat, very libertarian on social issues and accept the realities of a market economy, seeing the state's role as curbing the excesses. | |||
hhallahh Micro-Goomba Since: 11-19-05 Last post: 6505 days Last view: 6505 days |
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| Libertarian realist. I forget my political compass score, but it'd put me somewhere around there. *shrug* | |||
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Salmon Red Cheep-cheep Since: 11-18-05 From: Norway Last post: 6310 days Last view: 6299 days |
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Originally posted by Wurl I am fully aware that there's a difference between Social Democrat and Democratic Socialist. As I was trying to explain in my text, which may or may not have been easy to understand, I am somewhere in between, being a radical social democrat one day, and a moderate democratic socialist the other day. However, as mentioned, I am a member of SV (Socialist Left Party), which partywise would make me a democratic socialist. I do find myself belonging to the moderate wing of the party, though, and often I find myself agreeing with Ap (Labour, which is a social democratic party, and one step to the right of SV) |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6336 days |
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Originally posted by The SomerZOriginally posted by Wurl Ah, right. Sorry if I patronized you or whatever, but it should still be out here because there is a big difference. |
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Squash Monster Bouncy Since: 11-18-05 From: Right next to myself. Last post: 6302 days Last view: 6295 days |
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Economic Left/Right: -3.13 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.54 This is close to what most tests say (though they usually put me farther left), and moderately close to what I'd say. By my own assesment, I'm far, far farther left than most everyone, including socialists and even communists. My ideal economic system is /really/ far out there. I'll try to explain. We have computers and robots and a ton of technology doing work for us. One would think that'd mean less people have to work, but just as many are. This is because a lot of people are doing pointless beurocratic jobs just to take up space. That's just silly. So, in the ideal economy, we should have a very high unimpoyment rate, because nobody is doing any useless work. A good government gives its citizens good health care, education, and all that other jazz. All that stuff costs money. We can't get that money by taxing the citizens, because most of them are going to be unimployed, so we have to tax the coorporations. The coorporations will have to lay off all their unimportant workers to keep up with our heavy taxes. This gets that unimpoyment that we wanted in the first place. Coorporations are just going to hop to a different country if we tax them too hard. So we have to give them an incentive to be in our country in the first place. We're already paying a lot for education, so we're going to go ahead and kick that up a bunch until our citizens are some of the most qualified people on the planet. We're going to make people lose citizenship pretty easilly, so they won't want to switch countries to go work for a coorporation somewhere that'll avoid our taxes, because they'll lose all those benefits we were talking about. And we're going to tax imports heavilly, since there will be a lot of people living in a country like this, and coorporations won't have a choice but to do business with us. |
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Wurl Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6336 days Last view: 6336 days |
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| I wouldn't cosider you further left than most socialists/communists if you rely on corporations for your economic plans. | |||
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DooMAD Micro-Goomba  Since: 11-21-05 From: UK Last post: 6626 days Last view: 6626 days |
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| Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92 I remember being further to the economic left last time I took that test, but I'm still just as socially liberal as ever. |
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Thexare Metal battleaxe Off to better places  Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6294 days Last view: 6294 days |
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| Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -3.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64 Just about where I always have been every time the test has come up, give or take 0.5. I have no ideas for an 'ideal government' or anything of the sort, though, so I guess this'll be cut shorter than I'd like.  |
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