Originally posted by ||bass

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Originally posted by Dr_Death16

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Don't forget, many of these noob Democrats getting elected in "gain" states are Conservative Democrats, they aren't all on the liberal side of every issue, so add that to what you have and although it's a divided government, it is not all that imposing a threat to the Republican party in the presidency or in congress.

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Correct. A good example of this is one of the democratic candidates from Tennessee. He is pro-life, pro-gun, and anti-gay marriage.

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Originally posted by Arwon

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I bet you think that makes you better than other people. DON'T YOU?

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Originally posted by Randy

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Like the whole Kerry dissing everyone in the military.

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Originally posted by kill(C:\WINDOWS\explorer)

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I love how people make it up to be "hell" in the last two years Bush is serving.

Here is something I thought I would share from someone who is in the military....

(Parental Advisory)

Spoiler:
"I would just likes to say liberals are probably the dumbest people on earth. According to you dumb asses we haven't done anything in Iraq and John Kerry's stupid ass thinks soldiers are stupid. You know what? Just because you fuckers dont have the balls to defend your country and hide behind a tree doesn't mean you can call soldiers like me stupid and uncapable of accomplishing our goals in Iraq. Why don't you fuckers get a clue and show whats really happens in Iraq and all the good things that outweigh the bad things. But no, you wont because you have your head jammed so far up your asses and care more about homosexuals rights and letting us do are job and shutting your fucking mouth. Liberals are taking the pride out of America and ruining the traditional values. So, you know what fuck you! If you dont like the way we do business in America and want to sit on your asses and collect wellfair while everyone else works hard and doesn't bitch, go move to canada or mexico. see how you like it there fuckers! don't wave the American flag and say your patriots when all you are is a bunch of cowards. Get a fucking clue!"

Kind of interesting because in sense some of that is true. Like the whole Kerry dissing everyone in the military. I am mad our Governer isn't Mark Green but Jim Doyle.

I also think voting is something every American should HAVE to do. We had state wide elections and roughly 400,000 people voted, me being one of them. Milwaukee itself has 700,000+ I think we need more people to start voting. What do you think?

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Originally posted by Some Guy

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...Just because you fuckers dont have the balls to defend your country...

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I am reminded of my friend, Jeremy, a 30-something guy with a lazy eye that I played pool with and met through a series of "friends of so-and-so"s. I knew he'd been special forces, as his friend through whom I'd met him was special forces as well. Jeremy told me one night that he had trouble sleeping. We'd both had a few beers, so I figured I'd ask what the problem was. Apparently he was a sniper. Jeremy's killed a great many people. [...] He told me he had many ghosts on his mind, that kept him awake at night. I guess that's one of the drawbacks of being a REAL badass. Well, we were all in this pool hall one night, and one of the military guys was giving me shit for saying that I thought Israel was handling the Lebanon situation shittily. He basically got it in his head that I was a major hippie, despite my objections to such a label (I'm pretty conservative, on any given day). [...] Well, this guy kept coming over and talkign to them (the military guys), because I believe he wanted one of the girls with us. This particular guy had a pony tail, looked kinda grungy, was skinny, and had a shirt that said "Bush: Wanted for Crimes against humanity." With a fake mugshot of George W Bush on it. Well, the grunts and aforementioned dipshit marine officer werent taking too kindly to him and basically told him to fuck off. He was upset, but after they'd left he came back over to talk to us. Jeremy was still there and intercepted him sorta halfway and I watched from a distance, figuring Jeremy would break this kid's head off. After awhile it looked like they were practicing self defense moves or something. So I walk over to them and it turns out the guy's interested in pressure points or something, and Jeremy, having been trained to break every bone known, was giving him some pointers. They talked for a bit and did some Brazilian Jiu-Jistu stuff (which is pretty badass when everyone's drunk in a pool hall) before the skinny dude left. I walked over to Jeremy and said "man, I figured you'd kill that kid with that shirt he had on (I knew Jeremy was a huge bush supporter and conservative)". He smiled at me with that lazy eyed grin and said "hell naw, man. I fought so he could wear that shirt. Don't bother me none."

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Originally posted by Arwon

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Why?

Basically for the attitude that "I'm in the military so fuck you all my opinions are worth more". Utter contempt for civilians and you know, the people they work for. Partisan cheerleading disguised as "patriotism". And of course, a touch of good old fashioned fag bashing. The mark of a good military person is humility, devotion to service, self-discipline, and recognising that the diversity of views and lifestyles that democracy represents is actually what they're protecting. That sort of ill-founded anger and hatred is not something desirable in military people...

Able to separate their job from their politics. That's what soldiers should be.

I'm curious, what does this guy think of the ever-increasing anti-war sentiment within the military? Has he ever had to kill anyone personally? Would he beat up a hippie for expressing his views?

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Originally posted by Plus Sign Abomination

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I could've SWORN that it was Plato's Republic.

And I mean, no it is no worry when we have crazies in our army! Nop harm or worry of homegrown right wingers trained in the craziness at all! Let's just ignore the recent Belgian example.

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