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Rom Manic









Since: 12-18-05
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Posted on 10-03-06 10:29 PM Link | Quote
Well, this might get hard to explain, so I'll try to do it as I go along.

Today I was sitting in class, bored out of my mind (Mostly daydreaming), when the teacher asked me to answer a question out loud. I did, but after that my attention eventually snapped back to the lesson at hand. Which is where it gets interesting.

As my teacher continued to give the lesson, I found myself thinking exactly what he was saying as he said it. Intrigued, I tried it again, and the same thing happened. So I tried to plug my ears and I found that I could still do this. For one final test, I closed my eyes (As to avoid reading his lips), and I could still think what he was saying as he was saying it.

A few hours later on the drive home, I was listening to some Ukrainian music. I love to sing along to songs, but I had never heard this tape before (It's my grandpa's car, who is Ukrainian) so I was just mumbling along with nonsense words. But the same thing happened; I could sing along to each song perfectly. I couldn't sing the words properly as I don't speak Ukrainian (Though I could get some of them in), but each note I sung along perfectly to.

There is one catch, though. For the first experience, I found that when I focused more on plugging my ears and closing my eyes at the same time, I could not focus on what the teacher was saying and couldn't keep up as effectively. The second experience was similar, though the thought process broke up as I began to focus on how horrible my voice sounds that high and not on the actual music.

So there are 2 questions which come to mind here.

1) Am I psychic?
2) Does time occur faster than we can percieve it?

Please discuss, I'm interested to hear your opinions or related experiences.
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Posted on 10-03-06 10:38 PM Link | Quote
This is really only pertinent to #2, but I do have deja vu dreams. Which actually last to the point where I realize "hey, I had a dream about this EXACT THING a few months ago." So there's something to be said for the non-linearity of time, yes?
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Posted on 10-03-06 10:49 PM Link | Quote
You can be whatever you want to be. You just have to put your mind to it.

I once had a dream where the Military captured a wanted man in Iraq, and the very next day they caught Saddam Hussein.
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Posted on 10-03-06 11:17 PM Link | Quote
I'm thinking it was more likely to be an extreme mental clarity that allowed you to keep up better with whatever. I have similar experiences, but they only seem to work when I first get up in the morning with a specific set of prerequisite actions (too boring to describe here).

And the clarity usually dissapates when I get up to use the shower/brush teeth/ etc., so I couldn't use it for anything...

I guess you can hold onto that same state of clarity better than I (most people?) can.


You describe it as this is the first time this has happened to you. Was it, or were there previous occurances?
Rom Manic









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Posted on 10-03-06 11:23 PM Link | Quote
It was the first time, but I have been thinking this is not just related to me specifically. Like you have described, Tatrion, it may very well be within the power of anyone to do so. It just wierded me out because I had never really noticed this before. Perhaps this ability manifests as the mind develops?
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Posted on 10-03-06 11:41 PM Link | Quote
It's possible. Nearly impossible to tell if it affects a broad range of people or not without a poll; beyond my ability (though I don't know about yours).

In addition, I should have mentioned that I have gotten a similar effect in class as well; but it's different from what you describe. It's more like a "half-lucid dream", where I have some control over what I'm daydreaming about, but I'm not aware I'm daydreaming. The only relevance it has is that it happens in class, like yours does. I'm actually completely unaware of what's going on and I end up missing vital information... it's annoying, really
HyperHacker

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Posted on 10-04-06 12:14 AM Link | Quote
I've had that, and yes, it's quite annoying. I get a weird state where I know I'm dreaming, but still can't really control it, and am aware (loosely) of both the dream and my real-life surroundings at the same time. I may even hear and understand everything the teacher says, but not remember it. (Hence why I suck at trigonometry. This always, always happened during math class. Well that and grade 9 science but that was all basic stuff I already knew anyway.)

Also I noticed I often wake up minutes before my alarm goes off - especially if the power's gone out, preventing it from actually going off - even though I tend to just stay up as long as I feel like (anywhere from 11PM to 6AM) and then set the alarm for 6-9 hours later, forming no pattern whatsoever. It's like my body keeps track of time almost perfectly and wakes me up right when I wanted to, but only occasionally (not nearly enough to rely on). The part that freaks me out is it happens almost every time the alarm clock fails. I just wake up and see it flashing or not on at all, but when I look at my watch it's like 3 minutes before it would have gone off anyway.

Sometimes even just the power going out or coming back on wakes me up, even when it makes no noise. It's weird.
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Posted on 10-04-06 01:58 AM Link | Quote

Question number one can be repeated here, and much knowledge can be gained:
http://forums.randi.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Question number two is even easier:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduction_to_special_relativity

In short, psychic powers have for the last 30 or so years been disproven with complete certainty, and to this day we still consider time to be fully definable in one dimension.
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Posted on 10-04-06 03:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
I've had that, and yes, it's quite annoying. I get a weird state where I know I'm dreaming, but still can't really control it, and am aware (loosely) of both the dream and my real-life surroundings at the same time.

I've had that happen. Dreamt I got on the computer and played some game online, even though at the same time I knew I was in bed and was waiting for the last minute before I absolutely had to wake up to get to class on time. It was weird.
n3g-Z3r0 theory

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Posted on 10-04-06 03:58 AM Link | Quote
Almost the exact experience happened to me in physics the other day Rom. Along with it have any of you had the experience to where you are falling a sleep in class, think that your falling, and wake up standing up in class?

and Rom, the only reasoning I can think of for your/my/other peoples problem is that we already knew the curriculum and therefore we knew or understood how it would work.
BMF54123
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Posted on 10-04-06 04:36 AM Link | Quote
When I was a kid, I imagined this room in a video game...a dark room with three triangular windows, with tan/gold structures in the background. I imagined the character having to stack objects in order to get out of the room. I even drew a picture of the room, though it was either trashed long ago or is still buried in one of the countless sketch pads packed away at my parents' house.

Nearly a decade later, while playing the game Puggsy, guess what I saw?



Same windows, same tan/gold structures, same ability to stack objects to get out of rooms (though not this particular one).

Coincidence?

(I really wish I could find that blasted drawing...)
rubixcuber

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Posted on 10-04-06 10:45 AM Link | Quote
Clearly you have the power to predict the future of gaming BMF. Please enlighten us as to the coming of the new games enlightened one.

Will there ever be another good Final Fantasy?
Will Bowser ever get away with kidnapping the princess?
Will the pokemon fad ever die out?

The world must know!
Darkdata

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Posted on 10-04-06 03:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by BMF54123
When I was a kid, I imagined this room in a video game...a dark room with three triangular windows, with tan/gold structures in the background. I imagined the character having to stack objects in order to get out of the room. I even drew a picture of the room, though it was either trashed long ago or is still buried in one of the countless sketch pads packed away at my parents' house.

Nearly a decade later, while playing the game Puggsy, guess what I saw?



Same windows, same tan/gold structures, same ability to stack objects to get out of rooms (though not this particular one).

Coincidence?

(I really wish I could find that blasted drawing...)



I have done the same thing, I had a dream about a mario game with toads that have stripes on their head and a wooden flower all in a town.

Two days later I got super mario RPG.
LizardKing

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Posted on 10-04-06 04:39 PM Link | Quote
Reading this thread gave me a weird feeling. (Though that might just be the hangover.)

Anyway, I find this topic interesting, and I believe that everyone is, more or less, capable of having dreams that come true, and etc. And possibly even other things too, but very few are actually able to do anything useful with it.

And yeah, I have had two dreams that came true, and I used to have frequent feelings of deja vu, but I haven't experienced anything like that for the past two years, or so. Since I graduated from high school, actually. Maybe now that I am back at university it will return?
HyperHacker

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(As I've said about 45436 times before ) I saw Super Mario 64 in perfect detail (no sound though IIRC) in a dream about 2 years before the game was out. There was no way I could have seen it IRL before then. The dream was very short; Mario was in Whomp's Fortress and fell from the sky (presumably from the owl), grabbed onto the cement ledge at the right, and pulled himself up. I was literally quite stunned to see this level in the game when I did play it!

Originally posted by Skreename
Originally posted by HyperHacker
I've had that, and yes, it's quite annoying. I get a weird state where I know I'm dreaming, but still can't really control it, and am aware (loosely) of both the dream and my real-life surroundings at the same time.

I've had that happen. Dreamt I got on the computer and played some game online, even though at the same time I knew I was in bed and was waiting for the last minute before I absolutely had to wake up to get to class on time. It was weird.

I've had that too but it's not the same as what I was describing. (I get them in bed just before waking up too, or just after waking up 10 minutes early and going back to bed.) It's like a very vivid thought; I can see things in a lot more detail. Kinda hard to describe but it's almost like a second visual input; I can choose whether I see real life or the dream, or some kind of weird combination (generally the dream in the top half of my field of view). I'm completely aware it's a dream, and am actually quite awake.
These tend to go with dreams I was having before waking up that take place in real life. A lot of the time I'm doing something on the computer or talking on the phone in those dreams. When I wake up the dream is still going but I can sense everything in real life, and as my brain slowly starts up I realize "well it doesn't matter what I do because I'm not on my computer at all; I'm still in bed, this is just a dream". (I actually think almost that exact sentence every time). Then I generally just stop it manually because there's not much point to it. Nothing more happens; it's just me sitting at the computer thinking I'm actually in bed.

Now the fall-asleep-in-class half-dream I describe is fairly different. These are just like real dreams except I'm perceiveing both them and real life at the same time. Things happen in the dream just as they would when I'm asleep; I'm usually too far asleep to realize I'm in this state until I wake up. When I sleep my brain's logic unit just shuts right off and I never think "hey, that doesn't make any sense" about something in a dream (until I recall it while awake of course). So although I'm fully aware that I'm perceiving both real life and a dream at the same time, I never realize how strange this is or that the dream is in fact a dream until later when I'm fully awake.

I guess it's basically the same thing, only in the second, I'm less awake; enough that the dream actually "goes" instead of it just being me sitting there, and my brain's logic system shuts down. Usually I fall right asleep shortly after and stop perceiveing real life at all.
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Posted on 10-04-06 06:34 PM Link | Quote
Something most people don't realize is that your brain processes most information much faster than you conciously realize. It's more than possible (in fact it's common) for someone to hear something and mouth it back almost instantly and only realize a second or two later that their mouthings correctly correspond to the lyrics being heard. Is this a sign of psycic abilities or odd laws of time? Unfortunately no. Although time is linear the brain will simply often process information nonlinearly. In other words, your brain's auditory and verbal centers can finish their tasks LONG before your concious experiance recives the information, making time APPEAR to be nonlinear.

Although not a sign of psycic powers, this IS evidence that you probably have above average auditory and verbal skills.
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Posted on 10-04-06 08:32 PM Link | Quote
On a loosely related note, when I'm really tired, I can have entire dreams while also conscious and aware of my surroundings. Both "realities" are equally real to me, and in each I'm aware of the other.

I've even talked to friends on aim and dictated the dreams to them as they happened.

When the hallucinations end I tend to feel relaxed, and my fatigue disappears for some time as though I've had a good night's sleep, but the effect lasts only a few minutes.

Conclusion: I am really weird.
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Posted on 10-04-06 09:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ||bass
Is this a sign of psycic abilities or odd laws of time? Unfortunately no.


Unfortunately?
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Posted on 10-04-06 09:36 PM Link | Quote
I dunno, I think it'd be pretty cool to have psycic abilities.

Whatever they are.

I'd like psychic abilities too but then I don't run the risk of not knowing what it is.

oh ho ho ho i made fun of a typo i'm so witty
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