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YES
 
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meh
 
10.6%, 10 votes
NO
 
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labmaster

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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 10-01-06 08:31 PM Link | Quote
For the record, why I voted no:

1. It would discourage 'outsiders' to the community from coming in and making announcements (new utilities/hacks/whatever). A large amount of the new utilities that come out are from people who don't belong to or are active on this board - with a requirement to be approved to post, some people may not bother. Of course, this wouldn't be a problem with a non-approval 'releases' forum.
2. My second point was going to be that it could stunt activity, citing the Pokémon forum as an example. Then I realised there never really was much that was interesting going on there anyway
3. It would disperse the problem, not remove it. What you'd get is people posting in other parts of the board with stupid questions because they weren't approved. It's easier to deal with these people in one place, and it'd create more work for mods of the other forums.
4. Not really a point, but I'm generally of the opinion that restrictions (on posting) should only be put in place if they're really necessary. Given this, and the above:
5. I don't think the problem at the moment is as bad as some people have made it out to be. Granted, there are always going to be idiots on the internet, but it's hardly like we're swimming in their crapulence at the moment.

In summary, depending on its implementation, I'm not against it per se, however I don't think that the current situation really warrants it.


(edited by labmaster on 10-01-06 07:32 PM)
Dr. Mario

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Since: 11-17-05
From: Pittsburgh, PA

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Posted on 10-01-06 10:04 PM Link | Quote
I haven't really been active lately, but I voted yes. As much as I like helping new people out, there have been some problems as of late. I've noticed more closed posts here than how I remember it being a year ago or even just over the summer, so I'm down for it being approval only. I do like the idea of having a non-approval place to show off hack releases though.
ShadowTails

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Since: 11-20-05
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Posted on 10-02-06 01:13 AM Link | Quote
I think the main reason I really voted "yes" is because, too many people asking too many stupid questions. I mean just look at some of the stupidity floating around, think there could be a "Question" forum or something, that way Rom Hacking could be for... well... just plain rom hacks? that way we don't have to sit through the question crap, I think that might work better, and the question forum could have this whole approval of posts, that way the stupid questions that could be simply answered could be unseen, instead of making many other newbish questions multiply.

Also that would keep this topic clear for rom hacks only, that way we don't have to worry about people newbing up the place.

Although it's not my say as to what goes on at this forum, or what happens to it, I just think maybe instead of being that extreme, only do it for a questions forum specifically for questions about rom hacking, also maybe a topic for data threads, or maybe they can just be submitted on that same topic, I dunno, it's up to the admins.
spel werdz rite









Since: 11-19-05

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Posted on 10-02-06 02:25 AM Link | Quote
You know why we have a lot of idiots?
Because when this board started out, it was nothing but the few dedictaded specialists of ROM hackers who started this little world. As it grew in popularity, so did it's word. As people began hearing that "OMG! you can hAx0r2 your NES dood!" they came hear with the idea that everything was taken care of and all you had to do was download a "Make me a 1337 ROM hacker right now" button.

So it's not really a question to the worth of the community, but that of the worth of the internet (maybe even the world) as a whole of the representation of people who just don't care enough to do a little work.

The select few poeple who started this place and are still here still believe as to what this place stands for, and seeing what has happened to it is what makes them so quick to drop the BANvil.
RT-55J

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Since: 11-17-05

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Posted on 10-02-06 09:20 PM Link | Quote
Yes, only on the condition that the restriction applies only to posting threads.

Otherwise, no.
ibz10g

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Since: 08-10-06
From: Altoona, Iowa

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Posted on 10-02-06 09:29 PM Link | Quote
Yes. I never usually go in here either way, but from what I've seen, there are definately a lot of people who could benefit from proving that they can post in here. I can't really come up with a reason why I would say no.
Dr_Death16

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Since: 05-07-06
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Posted on 10-02-06 10:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RT-55J
Yes, only on the condition that the restriction applies only to posting threads.

Otherwise, no.
No, it should apply universally, otherwise idiots will just post their irrelevant and idiotic questions in other people's threads and therefore ruin them with stupidity. I've still as of yet seen a real reason why not to make the forum read-only to non-approved users.
spel werdz rite









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Posted on 10-02-06 10:31 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by RT-55J
Yes, only on the condition that the restriction applies only to posting threads.

Otherwise, no.
I kind of agree that it should at least be thread-only.
MasterTenor

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Since: 06-22-06
From: Ames, IA (United States)

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Posted on 10-03-06 07:55 PM Link | Quote
I think anyone should be able to _read_ the forum. By _reading_ first instead of posting, 95% of all questions would be answered immediately.

With that said, I agree with everyone who has said that it isn't hard to come across as a normal person who can spell an entire sentence correctly in a request post.
Simon Belmont
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Since: 11-18-05
From: Pittsburgh

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Posted on 10-03-06 11:43 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MasterTenor
I think anyone should be able to _read_ the forum. By _reading_ first instead of posting, 95% of all questions would be answered immediately.

With that said, I agree with everyone who has said that it isn't hard to come across as a normal person who can spell an entire sentence correctly in a request post.


Which is why I suggested a lurker period.
pikaguy900

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Since: 08-10-06

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Posted on 10-03-06 11:58 PM Link | Quote
I don't really see how that'd do any good. If you're going to make this forum approve-only, you should make all of the forums approve-only. I have a very good reason, too- Anyone noticed how people are starting to place Pokemon hacking topics here in ROM Hacking? They also say "I'd post it in the Pokemon Hacking forum, but I can't post there". They post here because they're techincally hacking a ROM, but... They don't understand that they can get approval. So! To avoid that, you'd have to make all forums they could possibly post it in (all of them) approve-only. Either way... I say, make the forum approve-only. It'd help a little bit...
HyperHacker

Star Mario
Finally being paid to code in VB! If only I still enjoyed that. <_<
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Since: 11-18-05
From: Canada, w00t!
My computer's specs, if anyone gives a damn.
STOP TRUNCATING THIS >8^(

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Posted on 10-04-06 12:21 AM Link | Quote
Or you could just tell them to read the forum descriptions.
BMF54123
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 10-04-06 05:30 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by labmaster
3. It would disperse the problem, not remove it. What you'd get is people posting in other parts of the board with stupid questions because they weren't approved. It's easier to deal with these people in one place, and it'd create more work for mods of the other forums.
I'd much rather deal with the occasional misplaced post than an entire forum full of asasdgfdgfdasghfsdgafdasf, thanks.
pikaguy900

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Posted on 10-04-06 10:15 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Or you could just tell them to read the forum descriptions.

That'd work, but... The people who put the topics in the wrong forum usually don't. Either that, or they do, but think that only special people get access. Either way, I guess you're right.
Griff Morivan

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Since: 06-10-06
From: St. Petersburg, Florida.

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Posted on 10-04-06 10:42 PM Link | Quote
I am emphaticly with this.

Yes. Thread based approval.
Megaman-Omega

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Since: 01-22-06
From: Syracuse

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Posted on 10-04-06 11:05 PM Link | Quote
Yes this forum should be aprove only now if not sooner. This is a Rom hacking forum NOT a "Teach noobs how to hack" forum. If you don't know how to do something you damn well better have checked Google, numorous rom hacking sites, and (hey heres a thought) HERE! And if you still somehow don't know send a PM or something or post it in the right thread don't make a new one. The shear amount of stupidity around here has become sickening. Perfect example - I've stopped reading the thred focusing on Drewsephs superb Super Metroid hack not bcause I was bored but because the only things talked about have been answered numerous times in the entire thread. Hell ignoring that there are walkthroughs and a 100% downloadable movie of the hack on the internet and people are STILL asking the same questions today. On another note if I'm not mistaken a few highly inteligent people have left the board or at least stopped posting information that they've gained from gross amounts of stupidity in their threads.
On another note if anything marking this forum aprove only will stop these rediculous posts of "Hey how come the new *insert rom hack project here* isn't finished yet he said that it would be done by now why isn't it?" which translates into "Hey! Get off your lazy ass and gimmie more stuff for free!". I swear people that post those things should be banned on sight! I reletively keep most info on my rom hack under wraps and only put it here when I want to know how it can be made better but I can hardly inaine how the group thats working on the now Lttp hack (forgot its name) must feel with people like that demanding tham to work on it.
Personally I know we cannot no matter what we do stop stupidity on ths entire site. But if more and more threads become Aprove only we can slow it down enough so we can keep it away enough so this community can grow and flourish like it should without blantently stupid idiots weighing us down.
HyperHacker

Star Mario
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Since: 11-18-05
From: Canada, w00t!
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Posted on 10-05-06 01:15 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by pikaguy900
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Or you could just tell them to read the forum descriptions.

That'd work, but... The people who put the topics in the wrong forum usually don't. Either that, or they do, but think that only special people get access. Either way, I guess you're right.

You do have a good point; the descriptions don't do a lot to explain the approval process. Maybe they could link the word "approval" to a thread explaining it.
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Posted on 10-05-06 02:56 AM Link | Quote
This is a voluntary institution; provided for free by those who manage it. As owners, they have every right to enforce whatever regulations they wish. And since they're asking the community for input in this regard, that only serves to promote dignity.

The thing is, people say "Oh, ROM hacking. Sounds like fun" and rush head-on into this particular group of threads, often bludgeoning themselves severely with the solid wall of the realization that technical knowledge and expertise are required. That's why you find more "hacks" being created with editing software than new things being discovered about games. It's also why you find more "what is a bite" questions than anything else.

A recurring theme in the world of computers is that there are those who are afraid of computers, those who use computers, and those who make the computers do their evil bidding. Those who hold computers by the nose tend to be protective and secretive; rarely to reveal what they find to the general public. Just like the good ol' days, there's still an air where what you find belongs to you and an elitist competition arises surrounding who has the abilities to do what.

Make the forum approval-only if that's what the concensus is, but the way I see it, why not go all out and require all participants to post their findings and how they came to find them. There's not much sense in changing the way things are just enough to make them convenient for a selected group of people.
Sukasa

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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 10-05-06 04:59 PM Link | Quote
I think you're mor ethan a little off about those who know computers. I have yet to meet a person who knows a lot about computers and doesn't mind sharing it with whoever needs help. I have never encountered one of the elitist "I can do this, YOU CAN'T HAHAHAHAHA" agruements, and I don't mind helping people out. What I DO mind is when said people make no effort to do anythign, follow the rules, or try to learn as much as they an on their own.
Sonicandfails

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Posted on 10-05-06 07:06 PM Link | Quote
http://board.acmlm.org/thread.php?id=8406
http://board.acmlm.org/thread.php?id=8406
http://board.acmlm.org/thread.php?id=8406

Do I need to make myself any more clearer??

Alright...

http://board.acmlm.org/thread.php?id=8406
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