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Tzepish

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Since: 11-21-05
From: Redmond, WA

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Posted on 12-03-05 05:16 PM Link | Quote
I'm like an old man when it comes to ROM Hacking - not because I've been doing it for so long, but because I adapt slowly and am not entirely willing to try new things.

I use thingy32. Version 0.19 French, to be exact. Version 0.20 has a bug (or something) that causes me to be unable to see any of the changes I've made until I reload the file, and I couldn't find v0.19 in English. As far as I know, there is no version more recent than v0.20.

There have got to be some awesome hex editors out there that can do everything thingy32 can, but with half of the annoyances. What hex editors do you guys all use?
Kyoufu Kawa
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Since: 11-18-05
From: Catgirl Central Station

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Posted on 12-03-05 05:20 PM Link | Quote
SnesEdit (for all systems, stupidly) and Visual Studio. Quick viewing and sometimes searching in TextPad which disables saving in hex mode.
MathOnNapkins

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Posted on 12-03-05 05:29 PM Link | Quote
I use XVI32 for nearly everything. The in-emulator hex editor on Geiger's Debugger I use also but I dislike it heavily. (No goto feature, steps are in terms of hex digits rather than bytes.)

XVI32 I like b/c it looks clean. It doesn't have special features for rom hacking like tbl editing, so be warned. But it does allow you to search using wildcard bytes. You can step through using the arrow keys in terms of bytes rather than digits. This makes finding a branch location much easier if you're into ASM. It also has a jump X number of bytes (either in decimal or hex) feature, also very useful for branches or indexed tables.
note: You can jump backwards or forwards by that set amount, and you can also easily use the find function backwards and forwards. Both jump and find are setup pretty conveniently using the F3 and F5 keys.

you can bring up a small window that will interpret a piece of data as an 4 byte number, a 2 bit unsigned number, 2 byte signed, 1 byte unsigned, 1 byte signed, etc. You can keep that open as you step through the file using the arrow keys.

If you do asm, it also has a count feature which is useful for finding out how many references there are to a certain function or variable, or even type of variable since you can use wild cards.

And of course is has a goto X address ability, in either decimal or hex.

You can take a selected byte and toggle the bits using checkboxes.

You can take an SNES rom and bump it up to the next size by using "insert string", which will allow you to go to the end of the file and insert $80000 bytes of $00. That would bump it up by 4 megabits.

Also you could use that to add a $200 byte header (snes). And if you need to eliminate the header, all you'd have to do is go to address $1FF and use "delete to cursor" and it will truncate the first $200 bytes. It also has a "delete from cursor" which will annihilate all data from your starting point to the end of the file.


(edited by MathOnNapkins on 12-03-05 04:31 PM)
Smallhacker

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Since: 11-17-05
From: Söderhamn, Sweden

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Posted on 12-03-05 06:20 PM Link | Quote
I really like Hex Workshop.
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Posted on 12-03-05 06:54 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Smallhacker
I really like Hex Workshop.

As do I.
It's really one of the cleanest and nicest ones out there. I've been using it for years, and I see myself using it for many more years to come.
Stifu









Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-03-05 06:56 PM Link | Quote
Hex Workshop here too.
Dragonsbrethren

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Since: 12-01-05
From: New Jersey

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Posted on 12-03-05 07:16 PM Link | Quote
Win(d)Hex32 is great if you do a ton of text-related work and its a good all-purpose hex editor as well. It's liked a beefed up Thingy32.
Xkeeper
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Since: 11-17-05
From: Henderson, Nevada

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Posted on 12-03-05 08:08 PM Link | Quote
Transhexlation.


... yeah.
Dragonsbrethren

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Since: 12-01-05
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Posted on 12-03-05 11:15 PM Link | Quote
I was a huge Traslhextion fan after Thingy32 stopped working correctly (And before that Hexsposure owned all... too bad it doesn't work on 2K/XP) but its much easier to do text-related work with WindHex32.
Gavin

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Since: 11-17-05
From: IL, USA

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Posted on 12-04-05 04:51 AM Link | Quote
Wow, what the hell is wrong with you people? You're using broken relics. Seriously.

Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Win(d)Hex32 is great if you do a ton of text-related work and its a good all-purpose hex editor as well. It's liked a beefed up Thingy32.


This is probably one of the best, and if FCEUXD didn't have an inline hex editor I would still be using it. However not having to reload the rom to see ROM hex changes? Mother-fucking pricesless . Too bad it's not so nice on MTE, so I reverted back to WindHex for the Grand Master translation
BMF54123
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 12-04-05 04:52 AM Link | Quote
I currently use a combination of XTree Gold (an ancient DOS file-management utility) and Translhextion. I keep XTree around for its no-frills hex editor, which edits files directly on the disk (i.e. no filesize limit) and has a rather speedy search function. It also displays ASCII stuff properly, such as .NFO files, due to its DOS-ish nature. Translhextion handles my everyday hex-editing tasks, but gets really crashy if I switch programs too much, try to open large files, or add/remove too many bytes. I just might have to give XVI32 a shot...
MathOnNapkins

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Posted on 12-04-05 05:31 AM Link | Quote
I just might have to give XVI32 a shot...

The only things I could really use out of XVI32 that it doesn't have is a file compare function, and the ability to color code certain sections of a file (code versus data basically)
blackhole89
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Since: 12-31-69
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Posted on 12-04-05 06:10 AM Link | Quote
XVI32, because tools you use every day should not be fancy or anything, but just work. I use it for both windows exe and ROM hacking.
If I need to do special tasks like tables, converting N-SPC data or generating lengthy x86 instruction chains, I usually quickly write console programs in MSVC for them. I feel more confident in C/C++ than any spoken language, so it really is less work than looking up a tool for the respective task for me.
Datahax

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Since: 11-24-05
From: United States of America

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Posted on 12-04-05 11:31 AM Link | Quote
I use for the most part UltraEdit-32.
Master Higgins

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Since: 11-27-05
From: Viña del Mar

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Posted on 12-04-05 11:48 AM Link | Quote
I've uploaded a version of Thingy32 that i modified on rapidshare. It's version 0.23, but it includes another little feature that allows you to write also bytes of any value. You just press tab for each byte you're gonna write when you've selected an area to edit, and put the byte value on the tiny textbox that appears in the dialog. Use lowecase for the hex writen in the textbox (i.e.: that is, "f5" instead of "F5"). I tested the program and it changes the text inmediately after pushing enter after editing. I had similar problems with the program in another PC that had win98. I don't know if that's the problem.

Here's the link

Tzepish

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Since: 11-21-05
From: Redmond, WA

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Posted on 12-04-05 01:47 PM Link | Quote
Hey, good deal on the new thingy! I crashed when I clicked on Options, however. Heh. But for now, this is what I'm using.

So I downloaded and tried Winhex32, and there's a lot I like compared to thingy (ability to type directly into the data, customizable color coded stuff), but it's more difficult to type in raw hex.

Maybe I'll give Translhextion and XVI32 a shot later today.

Also, I use UltraEdit at work, and I didn't realize it was a hex editor as well...?

Thanks for the all the replies, guys.
Mediocre Ibex?

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Since: 11-24-05
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Posted on 12-04-05 02:06 PM Link | Quote
Hiew 6.11 for DOS by SEN, mainly
creaothceann

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Since: 11-22-05

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Posted on 12-05-05 05:09 AM Link | Quote
WinHex, mainly just for viewing though.
DJ Bouche

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Since: 11-22-05
From: Bligh Park, NSW, Australia

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Posted on 12-05-05 06:01 AM Link | Quote
My history of hex editors are as follows:

Thingy (tried 32 but absolutely hated it) -> Translhextion (never used this for large text hacking projects though) -> Hex Workshop.

Today I still use Hex Workshop since it's fairly robust especially with large files, I keep Translhextion as its relative search feature is useful to me.

Tried XVI32, but it's interface just isn't for me. I may give this Windhex32 a look though.
T.Geiger

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Since: 11-18-05
From: Indianapolis, IN, USA

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Posted on 12-05-05 09:19 PM Link | Quote
I use Hex Workshop myself. Its incredibly powerful.

No goto feature, steps are in terms of hex digits rather than bytes.

While its true that there is no goto feature specifically (you could always change the range), I am not sure what you mean by "steps". Are you talking about the width of the rows?

---T.Geiger
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