Originally posted by Kasdarack

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Originally posted by Zer0wned

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And actually, I'd kill a man before running away.

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You can't REALLY know that until you've been in the situation.

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Originally posted by Zer0wned

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Originally posted by Kasdarack

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Originally posted by Zer0wned

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And actually, I'd kill a man before running away.

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You can't REALLY know that until you've been in the situation.

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Firstly, you missed the context that was in. I meant that specifically in this scenario due to the fact that there is no escape given the way my living area and the area surrounding it is set up. So it's either attempt to run away one way and get stuck, try to run away another way and most likely get injured falling a good 25 feet onto a car or asphault, both leaving me at the mercy of the intruder; or neutralize the threat.

Secondly, I have been in a similar situation. I literally broke a guy's face that was trying to mug me, and actually had a very hard time stopping myself from killing him, so I do understand my state of mind in highly adrenal scenarios. In a situation like a home invasion robbery where I have the right to kill an intruder, I know that I may very well decide that a lethal blow would be in my best interest to best protect myself and my coinhabitants from harm (given that I'm forced to assume they're armed by default, otherwise I'd just go for a subdue).

But I do understand why you said that, there's a lot of people who say how savage they'll be in a scenario, but when it comes up they fall short. I personally suck with verbal confrontations, and avoid fights at all costs (in other words, I have run away before. I'm a good fighter and all, but when there's a way out, I take it). Likewise however, I used to live in a rough neighborhood city (stockton, ca; per capita crime rates are over 1.5x compton O_o), and have been in situations where flight isn't an option, so I know how I react.

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Originally posted by Shiryu

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4 seconds to get a katana, 5 seconds in draw it XD (but the problem is that is not enough sharp...)[

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Originally posted by Tanks

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If you kill him you get sued... thats what happended to my cousin. His apartment was be robbed so he got his bat out of his closet and beat the guy who later die in the hospital. Then the victims mother sued him and somehow she won. Now my cousin is relying on his parents to pay for his last year of college because most of his money was taken. What a terrible world we live in where we arent allowed to use our rights.

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Originally posted by Tanks

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If you kill him you get sued... thats what happended to my cousin. His apartment was be robbed so he got his bat out of his closet and beat the guy who later die in the hospital. Then the victims mother sued him and somehow she won. Now my cousin is relying on his parents to pay for his last year of college because most of his money was taken. What a terrible world we live in where we arent allowed to use our rights.

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Originally posted by Zer0wned

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Originally posted by Tanks

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If you kill him you get sued... thats what happended to my cousin. His apartment was be robbed so he got his bat out of his closet and beat the guy who later die in the hospital. Then the victims mother sued him and somehow she won. Now my cousin is relying on his parents to pay for his last year of college because most of his money was taken. What a terrible world we live in where we arent allowed to use our rights.

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That's actually a rare scenario... Usually the outcome is more of a "why are you in my courtroom, asking me to order this man to give you compensation for something he had every right to do?", but i guess that's because I live in los angeles, where people know what it's like to have that happen to them, or a friend, or a family member etc.

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Originally posted by Scatterheart

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Yeah, the law is seriously fucked!
My brother, who was expecting a break-in (due to drug-related problems) asked a police officer if it was acceptable to use weapons, and the police officer replied "as long as your weapon doesn't give you an advantage over what said criminal is armed with."

If I have a gun, and he has a knife, I'll go to gaol (jail).

As said before: Why should the victom, being successful at dissabling or killing the suspect be put in goal (jail) for protecting him/herself and their valuables, when the given suspect was in 'the wrong' in the first place?
...Pathetic!

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Originally posted by Tanks

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I just found out that here, in Virginia, If an intruder breaks into your home you must
a)back away to the farthest wall of the intruder (you are not to be handling a weapon at this time)
b)ask him politley to leave your home,
c)If he refuses you are to then call the police
d)while the police are coming, you may retrieve anything that can be used to subdue the intruder.

Here is an enactment of this starring me and some lunatic-

Tanks-(tiptoeing backwards)(hit against wall) Will you please leav-*slit* (Tanks drops to the ground dead form getting his juggular slit open)

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Originally posted by Self-Defense (theory)

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In most jurisdictions, when the defense succeeds, it operates as a complete justification when the degree of violence used is comparable or proportionate to the threat faced, so deadly force should only be used in situations of "extreme" danger.

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Originally posted by Self-Defense

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It should be noted that armed weapons defense is extremely dangerous and should only be used in a life or death situation.

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Originally posted by Defense of property

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The defense of property is a possible justification used by defendants who argue that they should not be held liable for the loss and injury they have caused because they were acting to protect their property. Courts have generally ruled that the use of force may be acceptable, but that "deadly force" is generally not acceptable in defending property, although it may be acceptable in self-defense or, in some countries, the defense of one's home. As deadly force is not allowed, the setting of booby-traps and the use of dangerous guard dogs is also either not allowed or only allowed on strict terms such as the prominent dispay of warning notices.

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Originally posted by Vangar

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I could lob old computers at em, that would hurt a fair bit.

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