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Posted on 08-14-06 07:05 PM Link | Quote
Chef Pasquale is the best chef on TV.

Oh GEEZ I second that strongly. When I was a kid I'd always watch Chef Pasquale on TV in the morning because he was the MAN.

And like I was telling ||bass last night, there are NOT only a finite amount of flavors in the world. We eat certain things because we like them, and not everyone likes the same food. Some people have huge palates, others are picky eaters, but the vast majority of people have their likes when it comes to eating. (Excluding people with eating disorders, of course.)
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Posted on 08-14-06 07:21 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Jin Dogan
There are cooking shows and then THERE ARE COOKING SHOWS.



Seriously Iron Chef is so entertaining(the American version sucks ass though) even if it's just two chefs battling in the ever famous "kitchen stadium"...Aww who am I kidding, there's NO way to play it down, it's just that epic of a show. Those segments where Kaga talks about the chefs is also crucial: "If my memory serves me correctly"-- haha!


That show made me wonder how the f___ they spoke English, when I was 8. It blew my mind. Very puzzling to a 3rd grader.

But yeah, food network is pointless.


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Posted on 08-14-06 09:06 PM Link | Quote
The sloth and gluttony comments freak me out.

Generally I put a fair bit of effort into my cooking. I go to the Markets and buy fresh, quality ingredients, which in itself isn't me being slothful -- I walk down there, I walk around the markets looking for the right things, and walk back with heavy bags -- the shopping alone is exercise. Then I tend to take my time and be careful when I cook -- it's seldom something I just "threw together", there's effort put in, it's far from me being slothful.

And then I don't even eat six ton of it either when it is cooked. I serve myself a reasonable portion and then generally freeze the rest (if it's something I can freeze of course, if it isn't it goes in the fridge), so that's hardly gluttony either. I don't eat till I'm uncomfortable, I don't even eat till I'm "full". I eat till I am satisfied.

And yet I love food, so apparently this makes me slothful and gluttonous.

Note that since I started putting more effort into food -- buying quality ingredients, cooking, etc, learning to love GOOD food -- I've lost 23kg (50.6lbs). So it's not like devoting time and effort to good food is BAD for you or anything

The only time I overindulge seems to be when the Depression kicks up a bit, and that's actually been given a chemical explanation now -- I crave carbohydrates because they assist in seratonin production.
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Posted on 08-15-06 04:21 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ||bass
Ok, seriously. What is the big deal with Emril and Polk and all those other television chefs. Why, for that matter, is there a food network in the first place? Seriously, 99.999% of food tastes exactally the same no matter how you cook it. I think this is somehow a giant worldwide scam that's been going on for several hundered years now. It seriously needs to stop.
Emeril is a bit gimmicky for me, though I feel like I can appreciate his typically more mundane dishes in contrast to the incredibly complex, terribly opaque foods found on Iron Chef and the like. (Nonetheless, the Japanese Iron Chef is possibly my favorite show on TV.) Wolfgang Puck is just downright incomprehensible, though.

Good Eats is a wonderful show, but I feel like its impractical for the typical weekend warrior chef to really but its recipes into practice. Alton Brown seems to suggest that every American kitchen has a plethora of arcane devices and exotic ingredients always at the ready, when I know from personal experience that many people don't have saffron, or an electric knife, or even a food processor just lying around.
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Posted on 08-15-06 04:40 AM Link | Quote
But the whole point of Good Eats is that you don't need a lot of arcane tools. Is it probably fair to assume that a lot of people who are serious about cooking have a food processor? I'd say yes. As for the ingredients, well, are you going to make everything he does? You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone with saffron just lying around, but his approach is if you're going to make... I forget what he used it for, this would help a bit.
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Posted on 08-15-06 04:50 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by drjayphd
But the whole point of Good Eats is that you don't need a lot of arcane tools. Is it probably fair to assume that a lot of people who are serious about cooking have a food processor? I'd say yes. As for the ingredients, well, are you going to make everything he does? You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone with saffron just lying around, but his approach is if you're going to make... I forget what he used it for, this would help a bit.
Hah, alright, fair enough. My gripe might be more with his presentation than with the reality of his methods. That is to say, many homes might have a food processor handy, and just as many could have easy access to saffron or a similarly exotic spice if specific need were present, but the show's kitchen is so heavily and professionally stocked that it almost appears to be a given in the eyes of the show's host that any of his viewers will have the same tools that he has. When he tells me to "take out my handy thermometer that is stuck inside the meat while its in the oven and that has a wire that connects it to an exterior digital indicator so that I can read the temperature without opening the oven" - not in so many words, of course - I feel almost inadequate when I realize that I possess no such implement .
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Posted on 08-15-06 05:02 AM Link | Quote
Yeah, a lot of cooking shows have some exotic ingredients. On one side, it might be unlikely that their viewers have said ingredient... on another, it can sometimes encourage people to try something new

I don't have any saffron either though. The closest thing I have to an exotic spice is uh... cayenne pepper. Or maybe my bay leaves.
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Posted on 08-22-06 01:24 AM Link | Quote
I'm probably the only person 100% behind ||bass on this one. I'll take a nutrition/substinance paste eaten in about 3 minutes over a 3 course meal that I have to wait an hour for, then takes about another 20 minutes to eat.

The gluttony and sloth bit is a bit exagerrated, but it's definitely there to a point. Good tasting food is addictive, and most especially good tasting food is horrible for you. Hm, many good short times of enjoyment only to be followed by negative results (lethargy, diabetes, obesity, etc), know what that sounds like? Drugs. Especially when it comes time to change your diet, tons of excuses, lies, secret indulgence...

Indulgance of taste buds is an addictive and harmful way of life. If one, just ONE company would start making genuinely healthy meals in a sort of tv-dinner or other portable meal fashion, I'd be hooked. Maybe what the astronauts have =D.
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Posted on 08-22-06 01:32 AM Link | Quote
Get off the computer then.
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Posted on 08-22-06 03:30 AM Link | Quote
||bass, if seem so against creative cooking and everything, then why this post:?

Originally posted by ||bass
Is the stuffing pre-done or is it the dry stuff?

If it's the dry kind try grinding it up and mixing it with a bit of flour, cut the chicken off the bone into strips.
Now bread the chicken with the mixture of the ground dry stuffing/flour.
Fry it like this until done.
If you have cheese, melt it onto the chicken.
Now boil some of the pasta.
When the pasta is done, seperate into bowls and put strips of the now breaded and cooked chicken on top of the pasta.
Add some tomato sause to the finished pasta.

You now have chicken parmasan.


You seem to know a lot for somebody who doesn't like the "art" very much.

Me myself? I'm lazy, pre-made stuff keeps me alive.
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Posted on 08-22-06 04:03 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Zer0wned
I'm probably the only person 100% behind ||bass on this one. I'll take a nutrition/substinance paste eaten in about 3 minutes over a 3 course meal that I have to wait an hour for, then takes about another 20 minutes to eat.

The gluttony and sloth bit is a bit exagerrated, but it's definitely there to a point. Good tasting food is addictive, and most especially good tasting food is horrible for you. Hm, many good short times of enjoyment only to be followed by negative results (lethargy, diabetes, obesity, etc), know what that sounds like? Drugs. Especially when it comes time to change your diet, tons of excuses, lies, secret indulgence...

Indulgance of taste buds is an addictive and harmful way of life. If one, just ONE company would start making genuinely healthy meals in a sort of tv-dinner or other portable meal fashion, I'd be hooked. Maybe what the astronauts have =D.


Hey hey... a lot of good things can be very tasty The weather was delightful on the weekend, so we had a barbecue. And we ate some very tasty, and very healthy salad (with dressing optional to un-healthy it... I didn't have any dressing), fresh fruit, grainy bread, etc. The meat was grilled so it has less fat too, and I didn't eat a whole heap of meat, I ate more salad and fruit.

Enjoying food doesn't always lead to negative results either. I enjoy grainy breads, it doesn't lead to a negative -- the energy you get from grainier breads lasts longer and it's full of fibre and other good stuff. I adore atlantic salmon when I get the chance to eat it, and it's one of the richest source of Omega-3 fatty acids there is, which are excellent for your heart, and also your brain

But you're right that a lot of takeaway / prepackaged / portable foods aren't healthy. And a lot of what you can buy for lunches near where I work isn't either, although I've noticed a few flashy (and expensive) places popping up specialising in vegetarian, low-GI and healthy lunches.
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Posted on 08-22-06 10:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tarale
I've noticed a few flashy (and expensive) places popping up specialising in vegetarian, low-GI and healthy lunches.


That's the big problem, if you want something that's fairly fast, and isn't murder on your heart, you're going to have to end up shelling over far too much for it. The only "fast-food" that I really eat is Subway, anyways though.

Overall though, I'm a 17 year old male, so it seems that as long as I eat enough, and somewhat healthy, I'll be fine.
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Posted on 08-22-06 11:41 PM Link | Quote
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Rachael Ray must be made humble, old country way.


Ah, ah, you make excellent, excellent statement.

My brother and I disagree on a lot of things, but we agree that Rachael Ray is "STUPID!"
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Posted on 08-22-06 11:47 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Racer Xeo



Let's kick it up a notch
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Posted on 08-23-06 12:04 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Earth Luigi-San
Originally posted by Racer Xeo



Let's kick it up a notch


He might not like my idea of kicking it up notches unknown. Let's just say it involves this:


And this:
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Posted on 08-24-06 10:53 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ||bass
Originally posted by Jilkon
Originally posted by Sexy Sion
Thats because you dont have taste buds.

I think that pretty much says it. Food tastes way different if you just add one little thing or do some stuff different with it. A person who claims everything tastes the same is a person I see buying nutrition pills (all-you-need-in-one) whenever they become available.
I've been saying for years that we need some kind of generic nutrition unit and just start buying them in bulk. Food is fuel and eating is an inconvinence. That's why fast food is popular. Nobody should have to waste an entire freaking hour to refil their cars with gas, so why the time waste with food? Even if all sorts of food tasted great, fine. Sitting around for a entire hour to enjoy is is both sloth AND gluttony, espically when the time could be spent doing something productive.


Is not the point of back breaking toil during the day so that you have the means to enjoy yourself later on? If the way some people enjoy life is through either the art of preparing food or the joy of consumption, then what's the big deal?

If you're going to attack leisure, pick something more monstrously ubiquitous, like pro-sports.
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Posted on 08-25-06 06:00 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tommathy
Originally posted by ||bass
Originally posted by Jilkon
Originally posted by Sexy Sion
Thats because you dont have taste buds.

I think that pretty much says it. Food tastes way different if you just add one little thing or do some stuff different with it. A person who claims everything tastes the same is a person I see buying nutrition pills (all-you-need-in-one) whenever they become available.
I've been saying for years that we need some kind of generic nutrition unit and just start buying them in bulk. Food is fuel and eating is an inconvinence. That's why fast food is popular. Nobody should have to waste an entire freaking hour to refil their cars with gas, so why the time waste with food? Even if all sorts of food tasted great, fine. Sitting around for a entire hour to enjoy is is both sloth AND gluttony, espically when the time could be spent doing something productive.


Is not the point of back breaking toil during the day so that you have the means to enjoy yourself later on? If the way some people enjoy life is through either the art of preparing food or the joy of consumption, then what's the big deal?

If you're going to attack leisure, pick something more monstrously ubiquitous, like pro-sports.


(glare)

Hey, some of us can afford to eat solely because of the monstrous ubiquitousness of sports...
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Posted on 08-25-06 11:07 PM Link | Quote
Mind you, I was actually standing up for the defense of leisure
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Posted on 08-26-06 03:00 AM Link | Quote
I love the food network. I love food. I like ideas.


And Semi Homemade cooking with Sandra Lee is FUCKING genius. It's making nice stuff at home but totally not from scratch. She's my heroine.

*edit typo*


(edited by Kasdarack on 08-26-06 02:03 AM)
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Posted on 08-27-06 12:05 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Tommathy
If you're going to attack leisure, pick something more monstrously ubiquitous, like pro-sports.
I'll leave that to someone who actually knows anything about sports. I mean, I understand only 2 sports: Soccer & Boxing. Soccer because I have a USSF class F referee's licence (expired). Boxing because it's the simplest of all sports.

Ultimately, I think all sports are just advanced forms of boxing. Sure you can have contests with all sorts of rules, but the ultimate and simplest way to settle these things are just to put two guys into a ring and let them beat the shit out of each other. Basic and straightforeword.

With that being said, soccer is never actually on TV except for the spanish channels and boxing is often PPV and costs way way way too much.
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