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Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

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Posted on 07-26-06 01:05 AM Link
Um I was recently banned from a website it’s a java chat site,
www.chat-avenue.com, proxies do not help me get back on. I have cleared out all my cookies and my prefetch so how can I get back in besides waiting.

Oh and as for why i got banned i called a Mod a f/\G so don’t ever do that.
I figure the bann might log my java info or something and bann that instead of my ip just a guess. Help would be appreciated.

And please don’t tell me that I’m just a prick and shouldn’t have done that and deserve to be banned ,because I already know that. Thanks in advance for any helpful info.

ok i found a little info about chat avenue by looking at the source.
http://www.chat-avenue.com/boot.shtml thats a link that boots whoevers on
im must look more into all of this and report it all back to here.
http://www.google.com/search?hs=JOH&hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=DigiChat%2FDigiClasses%2F&btnG=Search
http://partners.digi-net.com/PDFs/DigiChat4.0_Documentation.pdf
ooooh whats that looks like info ,I love info.
th thoes two link are what i have found after about an hour of research so update more later.


(edited by Crayola on 07-26-06 12:49 AM)
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(edited by Crayola on 07-26-06 02:50 AM)
Dan

Purple Leever


 





Since: 11-18-05

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Posted on 07-26-06 06:55 AM Link
This forum isn't for finding ways to circumvent bans on forums/chat sites/whatever.
Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

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Posted on 07-26-06 10:40 PM Link
Oh I thought this was a hacking forum I could have sworn it said hacking forum, that’s so weird. I must have put this in the wrong place. Sorry.
And by the way I haven’t found a way through their bann I give up
I have found some other rather interesting things out but I don’t think ill share them in here since this isn't the hackers forum.

This is so weird your not going to believe it the entrance to this forum is labeled as:
h a c k i n g
General Hacking
For hacking of non-ROMs and discussion thereof, including PC games, and possibly even things like forums.
(moderated by: blackhole89)

Wow. So we can talk about hacking forums on this forum but not hacking around a bann?
I read nothing that suggested that there were certain things we couldn’t talk about
So maybe someone could give me a list on what we can and cannot write about in a hacker forum. I saw the word hacker and I thought hmm I bet this would be a good place to talk about hacking I don’t know maybe I am just ignorant for that.



(edited by Crayola on 07-26-06 10:24 PM)
paulguy

Paragoomba


 





Since: 06-29-06

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Posted on 07-26-06 11:29 PM Link
i don't think this is about that kind of hacking. Probably the more NON MALICIOUS hacking which doesn't involve ban-evading; probably more like PC games and hardware and other things like that. Also i imagine once you get on you're just going to get banned right away.
Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

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Posted on 07-26-06 11:50 PM Link
No I am unbanned now I just logged in and logged back out so that’s good .But honestly maybe they should say that on the entrance “this room is only for white hat hackers'' or "no malicious hacking is allowed to be posted".
I think your whole opinion on hacking is a little bit biased why look at one portion of hacking but not another?
I am just trying to learn and share knowledge with others I thought that was what hacking was all about I guess once again I am a fool.
FreeDOS +

Giant Red Koopa
Legion: freedos = fritos








Since: 11-17-05
From: Seattle

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Posted on 07-27-06 02:50 AM Link
Actually, it's assumed that you know what the word hacker means.
Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

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Posted on 07-27-06 03:36 AM Link
Oh nice document ill read it later, but I think I already got the main idea of what a hacker is someone who finds out how things work and how to manipulate these things.
Too often people tend to associate hackers and crackers into the same genre. Which they are definitely similar but are highly unique from one another.
In that hackers hack to learn, and crackers hack to take advantage.

I submitted the question "how do I get into chat-avenue when I am banned"
I want to learn how exactly they block me even through a proxy. That’s why I said the comment someone made earlier was biased in that he assumed I was going to take advantage of this knowledge and use it to negatively affect the site. Malicious is a very strong word I would have to destroy something or really mess is up for that term to be applicable.
So let me make it clear now I am here to learn not destroy.

I think ill find out what I need to know on my own like I always I was wishing to save time by asking on a forum but it seems no one here cares or has any will to help, but that’s alright I think I rather do things on my own. So yea thanks to you people, for your abundance of information that helped in no way.
KeiiChi Kun

Leever
Learn some manners.
Password changed to gibberish and IP banned.


 





Since: 01-01-06
From: Sushi Bar

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Posted on 07-27-06 08:38 AM Link
Damn script kiddies
FreeDOS +

Giant Red Koopa
Legion: freedos = fritos








Since: 11-17-05
From: Seattle

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Posted on 07-27-06 05:40 PM Link
isn't it funny how your attitude resembles a script-kiddie cracker: "Nice document, I'll read it later"

Try reading it now, and understand why you are blatently wrong.
Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

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Posted on 07-29-06 03:49 AM Link
Originally posted by Crayola

In that hackers hack to learn, and crackers hack to take advantage.


thats what i said
this is what the document said:

The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them.

so tell me how was i completely wrong? we both said pretty much the same thing


(edited by Crayola on 07-29-06 02:50 AM)
FreeDOS +

Giant Red Koopa
Legion: freedos = fritos








Since: 11-17-05
From: Seattle

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Posted on 07-29-06 04:10 AM Link
Your intention was to exploit the forum software to your own personal advantage (evading a ban). How is that not cracking?

What hacking would be is reading the forum source code, finding security holes, fixing them, and sharing the fixes to everyone else.
Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

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Posted on 07-29-06 04:57 AM Link
I have found a document on IP addresses and how they work and once again I will read it later it is almost 4:00 am and I have to work tomorrow.

You still did not explain how my definition of hacking and the one on that page were so different that you felt it necessary to take it upon yourself to leave another useless post telling how I intended to “exploit” the chat system.

I made claim to no label such as “hacker” or “cracker”
I only said that I am here to learn not destroy.

Definitions of exploit on the Web:
1. Use or manipulate to one's advantage; "He exploit the new taxation system"; "She knows how to work the system"; "he works his parents for sympathy"
2. Draw from; make good use of; "we must exploit the resources we are given wisely"
3. Deed: a notable achievement; "he performed a great deed"; "the book was her finest effort"
4. Overwork: work excessively hard; "he is exploiting the students"

I want you to pay particular attention to the second definition.
you make exploit sound like such a bad thing the first and second definitions sound great to me.

Originally posted by FreeDOS +
Your intention was to exploit the forum software to your own personal advantage (evading a ban). How is that not cracking?

What hacking would be is reading the forum source code, finding security holes, fixing them, and sharing the fixes to everyone else.


Ok wait a minute, this is crazy .Let me ask you this are you high? Have you read any of the previous post?

What "forum software" might you be talking about?
I wasn’t talking about hacking any forum; I have no clue where you got that from.



Please continue yours and others useless rants that solve notthing it’s entertaining.


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(edited by Crayola on 07-29-06 04:17 AM)
Vangar

Goomba








Since: 06-06-06

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Posted on 07-29-06 09:43 AM Link
Originally posted by Crayola
I have found a document on IP addresses and how they work and once again I will read it later it is almost 4:00 am and I have to work tomorrow.

You still did not explain how my definition of hacking and the one on that page were so different that you felt it necessary to take it upon yourself to leave another useless post telling how I intended to “exploit” the chat system.

I made claim to no label such as “hacker” or “cracker”
I only said that I am here to learn not destroy.

Definitions of exploit on the Web:
1. Use or manipulate to one's advantage; "He exploit the new taxation system"; "She knows how to work the system"; "he works his parents for sympathy"
2. Draw from; make good use of; "we must exploit the resources we are given wisely"
3. Deed: a notable achievement; "he performed a great deed"; "the book was her finest effort"
4. Overwork: work excessively hard; "he is exploiting the students"

I want you to pay particular attention to the second definition.
you make exploit sound like such a bad thing the first and second definitions sound great to me.

Originally posted by FreeDOS +
Your intention was to exploit the forum software to your own personal advantage (evading a ban). How is that not cracking?

What hacking would be is reading the forum source code, finding security holes, fixing them, and sharing the fixes to everyone else.


Ok wait a minute, this is crazy .Let me ask you this are you high? Have you read any of the previous post?

What "forum software" might you be talking about?
I wasn’t talking about hacking any forum; I have no clue where you got that from.



Please continue yours and others useless rants that solve notthing it’s entertaining.


God damnit man, i may be new here but it doesn't take a scientist to know when to shut the hell up. You labelled yourself as a cracker when you wanted to bypass a ban. Thats CRACKING.
Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

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Posted on 07-29-06 12:49 PM Link
I never said I wasn’t a cracker but honestly I "was" here to learn

Which I am now friends with a few of the mods there so i will just ask them
What I wanted to know since no one here answers anything but their own questions.I asked a simple question I wanted a relatively simple answer but all I get are answers to questions I never asked.

Oh and the links at the top are very useful , I guess even though I am rated as a scummy evil cracker I can still share what would be valuable information to a limited amount of people. Those people more than likely being: script kiddies/hackers/crackers/or anyone that does chatroom matainence.

But people this will probably be my last or second to last horrid post,
But I WANT YOU ALL TO GO BACK AND READ “EVERYTHING” ON THIS PAGE. Do you see what I have put up with?



So go on .....................waste some more time.


(edited by Crayola on 07-29-06 11:53 AM)
Xkeeper
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Since: 11-17-05
From: Henderson, Nevada

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Posted on 07-30-06 02:48 AM Link

Oh and the links at the top are very useful , I guess even though I am rated as a scummy evil cracker I can still share what would be valuable information to a limited amount of people. Those people more than likely being: script kiddies/hackers/crackers/or anyone that does chatroom matainence.

I happen to own my own chat channel, and I have to say that if you got banned, you probably got banned for a reason.

As far as I'm concerned, you brought all of this upon yourself:


Um I was recently banned from a website it’s a java chat site,
www.chat-avenue.com, proxies do not help me get back on. I have cleared out all my cookies and my prefetch so how can I get back in besides waiting.

Translation: How can I get past their ban. (learn how to use English, noob. Question marks are important!)


(bullshit)
I want you to pay particular attention to the second definition.
you make exploit sound like such a bad thing the first and second definitions sound great to me.
(bullshit)

This is simply changing it: "this word isn't really bad, see, this def'n here is perfectly fine!" -- the definition you're trying to apply has nothing to do with your (or any one else in this thread's) useage of this word.

It's the equivalent of saying "Calling someone a "retarded little fucker" isn't that bad bad because fucker can mean "someone who has sex!" It's flawed logic.


Be glad I haven't banned you for wasting everyone's time and being a fucking retard.
Cadohacan









Since: 05-21-06
From: NY

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Posted on 07-30-06 02:55 AM Link
Originally posted by Crayola
“this room is only for white hat hackers'' or "no malicious hacking is allowed to be posted".


we could add "this room is not for morons named Crayola" if you would like!!
Xkeeper
Took the board down in a blaze of glory, only to reveal how truly moronical ||bass is.


 





Since: 11-17-05
From: Henderson, Nevada

Last post: 6278 days
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Skype
Posted on 07-30-06 02:55 AM Link
Personally, I think "No Failures" would work pretty well.

I mean, it'd fit this guy.
Crayola

Double stone axe








Since: 03-18-06
From: coeburn,VA

Last post: 6345 days
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Posted on 07-30-06 03:44 AM Link
Ok I will reply to your comments in the order they were listed.

You say that I probably got banned for a reason, I told everyone to go back and read all of it. The reason I got banned was listed I called a mod a fag.

I forgot one little question mark which really doesn’t matter. You know why? Because no one answered any of my questions.

As for my definition of Exploit, it was a definition I didn’t change the meaning of the word at all .The fact that your usage is incorrect does not change the definition.

And what is good about being a retard that has sex? Well it is funny but not good.

And banning me for wasting everyone's time?? I wasted my own time trying to find answers. I can't prevent everyone else from wasting their time. I did not force them to post they posted of their own freewill.

And why in the world would I want someone to make a room that includes everyone but me?

This will be my last post on this topic like I said before in an earlier post.
I’m not going to look back at this page ever again; as far as I’m concerned it is a bad memory.
Feel free to call me what you will I really don’t care anymore.
But I urge everyone to read everything that was posted on this topic to gain a greater understanding of why I choose to leave it.
Xkeeper
Took the board down in a blaze of glory, only to reveal how truly moronical ||bass is.


 





Since: 11-17-05
From: Henderson, Nevada

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Skype
Posted on 07-30-06 04:28 AM Link
I'm trashing display casing this on this being a good example of a bad example.
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