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Which language to take?
Yeah, I have to take one for degree requirements...which one to take?
German
 
33.3%, 11 votes
Russian
 
24.2%, 8 votes
Chinese (Mandarin)
 
9.1%, 3 votes
Arabic
 
3.0%, 1 vote
Portuguese
 
3.0%, 1 vote
Japanese
 
21.2%, 7 votes
Hindi
 
6.1%, 2 votes
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Posted on 07-25-06 11:35 PM Link | Quote
Aight. Ziff is in desperate need of lingustic guidance. These are the languages I can fit into my schedule while at school. I'm going to basically list my previous experience with languages.

1. Native English
2. Quebecois French (former fluency, now good knowledge of the grammar with diminished vocabulary)
3. 2 years of high school Latin, 1 half year of university level Latin. Good understanding of syntax, grammar, but bad vocabulary (I never practise)
4. 1 year of Cantonese. (knowledge of 50 characters (tiny vocab) with a VERY BAD UNDERSTANDING of the syntax and everything else)
5. Base Ukrainian skills from growing up in Ukrainian family. Understanding of Ukrainian grammar, good knowledge of swearing, okay pronounciation, full understanding of Cyrillic.

I've studied the basic ideas of the grammars of all these languages. So, any opinions.

Also I'm aiming for fluency in writing and speaking by the end of the next 4 years.
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Posted on 07-25-06 11:43 PM Link | Quote
I think Russian would be an awesome language to learn. On a personal note, I just think it's cool the way they speak...I dunno, thats just me though.

EDIT: Since you know some basic Ukrainian on the side, it would aid alot.

Nozdorovyeh!


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Posted on 07-25-06 11:47 PM Link | Quote
Try Chinese. There are a lot of people in the world who speak it, and it will probably be one of the more helpful languages you can learn in terms of usefulness. Especially in the near future. The second best language to learn is a tie between Spanish and German. The former isn't on the list though, so use the latter.
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Posted on 07-25-06 11:48 PM Link | Quote
Hm, your French is a bit different than mine, Ziff... I can speak it OK but I'm better at reading it.

I'd go with Russian. You already have a solid understanding of the basics of the Ukranian language so it would be a logical step.
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Posted on 07-26-06 12:13 AM Link | Quote
As a native speaker of English, German should be very easy for you.
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Posted on 07-26-06 12:30 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ||bass
As a native speaker of English, German should be very easy for you.
Agreed...

Im taking German in high school... its a pretty simple and similar language (You MIGHT be able to learn it semi-fluently in 3 years if you work at it )
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Posted on 07-26-06 12:51 AM Link | Quote
Chinese is obviously spoken by the most people out of any of the choices... therefore there are many more opportunities for the select few who are fluent at both it and English. Sounds like the best choice to me.
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Posted on 07-26-06 01:01 AM Link | Quote
Just a question of those who have suggested Mandarin Chinese. Have any of you taken a Chinese language course?
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Posted on 07-26-06 01:04 AM Link | Quote
No, but I know friends that have taken it, if that helps. They have told me its not that difficult to learn, although obviously it is quite different from english...
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Posted on 07-26-06 01:12 AM Link | Quote
On terms of pure grammar it is an analytic language and can be quite easy to understand, particularly longer sentences It is the tonal aspect that makes it very difficult. Moreover the writing system is straight from hell.
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Posted on 07-26-06 02:21 AM Link | Quote
Yeah... learning a tonal language, if you don't already speak one (or have an ear for tones), isn't the easiest thing to do. Are you looking for one that's easy to learn, or did you have any sort of goals beyond fluency?
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Posted on 07-26-06 10:25 AM Link | Quote
Go for Russian. It's going out of fashion these days, I feel bad for it.
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Posted on 07-27-06 05:13 AM Link | Quote
I say German because its a pretty cool langauge from what I learned which was a decent amount.

I like learning German prolly because some of my family members are from Germany.
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Posted on 07-27-06 09:17 AM Link | Quote
I would go with either Japanese, Chinese or Russia.

I took English and Japanese, as I had to take German here (But it's a second language for me too, I'm more fluent in English than German, as a Swissgerman speaker).
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Posted on 07-29-06 04:04 PM Link | Quote
One benefit of learning Chinese or Japanese is you're halfway to learning the other.
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Posted on 07-29-06 06:05 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperMackerel
One benefit of learning Chinese or Japanese is you're halfway to learning the other.

The kanji may be the same (Japan took them over; also some complex kanji got simplified in Japanese) and in Chinese you have only one reading instead of multiple in Japanese, but spoken Chinese is very different from spoken Japanese language.

I could try to decipher an sentence with unknown kanji easier if I check some important "flags" like koto, the te-form of verbs or "toki", but I would not be able to understand a Chinese sentence unless it used some very basic kanji and was very short (such as 歳, number kanji and人 in one short sentence).

As for languages, I would also recommend German. Not because I'm living here, but due to the similarities between both, as already stated. And you will be able to see what dumb mistakes (forgetting the "s" after he, she and it) we sometimes make, when trying to talk in English ...


(edited by Surlent on 07-29-06 05:06 PM)
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Posted on 07-29-06 06:08 PM Link | Quote
I would say Russian, since you already have basic knowledge of Ukranian, and the two languages are similar to each other.

German is nice too, it's your preference if you choose this over Russian, since it is a bit complicated, but if you want, take it.
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Posted on 07-29-06 09:58 PM Link | Quote
My Kill Bill side is screaming Japanese, but I have a feeing it won't be as useful as a more common language. German would probably be the easiest, and you'd have a better chance of using it at some point.

So, German.
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All the seats in German were filled up before I could sign up. Stupid university. My start time is Monday. However, there are 7 more seats in Russian (total class size is 17, so that's a lot better than my 150 person Latin lecture!). I've pretty much been put into Russian. As for German, I'm going to teach it to myself on the side and sit on on the morning lectures when I can swing them in my schedule to listen to how I should sound.
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Posted on 07-30-06 05:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperMackerel
One benefit of learning Chinese or Japanese is you're halfway to learning the other.


I dunno, not really.

Mandarin Chinese is a Sino-Tibetan language, Japanese is a language isolate with no known relatives. They share a lot of vocab and an alphabet, but the underlying structures and stuff are totally different from each other. It'd be like thinking knowing English helps you learn Latin or vice versa.


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