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| Acmlm's Board - I3 Archive - General Chat - Alcohol and the day you are legally able to drink it |
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neotransotaku Sledge Brother Liberated from school...until MLK day                   Since: 11-17-05 From: In Hearst Field Annex... Last post: 6299 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| So, I've been 21 for about 5 months already and still have not had a single sip of either beer, wine, or company. So I wonder, did I miss out on something? | |||
Danielle     6730 Administratorrrr HELLO THERE     Since: 11-17-05 From: California Rate me ^_^ Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| I haven't had alcohol either (I'm 16, not that it matters; I don't plan on drinking in the future), and I don't quite see anything I'm missing out on. Being an idiotic, drunk bafoon just isn't appealing.
So in my opinion? Nope, you haven't missed anything.  |
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Blue Falkon Hoarder Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada Last post: 6503 days Last view: 6503 days |
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| I hate alcohol... there's not many that I like. I'm 17 years old though... and I can drink when I'm 19. Legally, that is. I find the taste bitter, and I don't like the idea of getting drunk. |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Don't listen to these people, drinking is fun, scornful, elitist contempt for something you've never tried is not. | |||
Yoshi Dude TO HELL WITH THIS  Since: 11-17-05 From: Fleepa Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| i've never done heroin so i can't say it's a bad idea!!!!
You don't have to try something to know how it affects you, to know how it affects others, and most of all, to not like it. |
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Clockworkz Birdon Since: 11-18-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| I love to throw back a few brewskies with the guys, puff a cigar and play bumper pool on the weekends. As long as you aren't falling over drunk, calling your friends up to ask them what you did over the weekend because you can't remember, you should be alright. It's fun and social, just so long as it's not in excess. I'm looking at you, NSNick. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| Do heroine. Trust me, good times.
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| If you really have to resort to heroin analogies as a counter-argument you've got nothing, YD.
Most people in our society like to drink and have no problems in it. Less than 1% of people do heroin and a much higher proportion (though, incidentally, not as high as the propaganda would sugggest) have problems. Heroin is a marginalised, underground thing, alcohol is an important part of many social rituals. Alcohol is legal, heroin is illegal. They're chalk and cheese. I think the problem is a lot of people, both drinkers and nondrinkers don't seem to realise there's a happy middle ground between "puritannically contemptuous of alcohol culture as a general entity" and "raging sloppy alcoholic". The most important thing is not to drink just to drink, but to drink because it's fun, liberating, and an excellent social lubricant. If you don't drink at all, because you're afraid of how you might act, or because you think drinkers are "idiots" or whatever, then you'll never learn how to get better at it. It's an important learning experience and an important part of growing up in our society. And just because keggars are stupid and the beer is shit is no reason to avoid all that. Alcohol in our culture goes SO FAR beyond just "college kids being idiots" that viewing all alcohol through that lens is just wrong. |
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Arwon What's that Captain Kangaroo? Yes, of course I'll kill him, but why? Oh, I see. He insulted keggers which are awesome and bashed beer, which is delicious and sweet liquid bread! |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| I *like* beer! I just think that keg parties are symbolic of what's wrong with America's attitude to alcohol. | |||
Young Guru Snifit  Since: 11-18-05 From: Notre Dame, IN Last post: 6303 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| Alcohol is a funny thing. I don't think people should be drinking a lot when they're young, but when you get older (and i guess for me that would be 18 or so) I see no problem with alcohol. Hell, if you want, get piss drunk and call that friend up the next day to find out what you were doing, just make sure that you're smart enough not to do something stupid like go driving or rape someone, that's a terrible thing and if you can't control yourself from doing that then you shouldn't drink like that. In general, drinking should not end in you not remembering what you did the night before, just a little buzz, maybe something to make you more social, but if you can't be social without alcohol then you might have some problems as well. And I agree, alcohol is a social thing and being completely against it without having had experience with it is not a good thing. And now for a few closing thoughts, Pabst Blue Ribbon is the college kids beer of choice, even if you can get a head as big as a glass, vodka is a terrible terrible thing it will always lead to hangovers, and "Liquor before beer, never fear. Beer before liquor, never sicker."
And I'm 20 if we're keeping stats on these things. (edited by Young Guru on 11-29-05 08:33 PM) |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Vodka causes hangovers? Huh. I usually find my hangovers are far less severe when I've been drinking vodka. It's neat and pure and there's not much in it that should be causing hangovers, not many toxins you have to work overtime to flush out. | |||
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Ziff B2BB BACKTOBASICSBITCHES Since: 11-18-05 From: A room Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by Arwon A bunch of guys celebrating being guys? I've never really seen anything wrong with keggers, as it has been the times where I'm closest with other dudes. Mostly because we're all sappy drunks. It is a very good socializing tool. Mind you, these keggers are smaller. One or two kegs amongst 20 or 50 guys who I live around and know. |
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Blue Falkon Hoarder Since: 11-18-05 From: Canada Last post: 6503 days Last view: 6503 days |
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Originally posted by Young Guru I stopped reading right there, it just about summed it up.
My friend has a poster on his wall... I forget what it was called but it was like the periodic table of elements, except it listed various mixes and how you make them. My parents also have an encyclopedia... thing in the basement that lists hundreds of different mixes. And here I am not liking alcohol. |
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Hiryuu Sword Maiden Retired Admin  Since: 11-17-05 From: Nerima District - Tokyo, Japan Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| On my 21st I made the sim 'The legend of SAKURA' got a bottle of Bicardi Superior and had about half of it. All I remember is waking up on the couch the next morning with my shirt in an odd place...
...I should've made an Oni step to it while I was drunk. Probably would've made my Impossible Song cry. |
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Danielle 6730 Administratorrrr HELLO THERE Since: 11-17-05 From: California Rate me ^_^ Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| The fact that you think alcohol is an important part of growing up in our society, Arwon, then there's the reason society is going to the crapper. People that don't drink aren't "afraid" of looking like idiots, they're intelligent enough to know they will look like idiots. It's a matter of who you hang out with, I guess. If your buddies think a good time is getting wasted, acting like morons, and seeing who'll do the stupidest things, then there you go.
I'm glad I'm not part of a group like that. In the end, it's personal preference. |
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Yoshi Dude TO HELL WITH THIS Since: 11-17-05 From: Fleepa Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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Originally posted by ArwonYou were implying that their opinion didn't matter because they never got drunk. I was just taking your logic to another level. I was NOT comparing heroin and alcohol as harmful substances. That's just stupid. Personally, I hate being around a drunk person. But I don't have anything against others who drink. Just don't be around me. Believing that drinking is an important part of growing up in our society, to me, is a great sign of immaturity. |
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Kattwah Acro RIP Acmlm's Board: Feb. 18 2007  Since: 11-17-05 Last post: 6296 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| Knowing me, Im not going to have a drop of alcohol in my life...
Then again... that probably will change one day after 21st birthday (January 5th 2011) 
Im not looking foward to anything really, Its just something Id like to check off on my unofficial "Things to do in my lifetime" list.  (edited by KATW on 11-29-05 09:02 PM) |
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Arwon Bazu Since: 11-18-05 From: Randwick, Sydney, NSW, Australia Last post: 6298 days Last view: 6297 days |
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| Pah, people have always been drinkers, Danielle. If anything I'd suspect that people drink less these days than they did a generation or two ago.
Ziff: OK, I'll explain. This probably works different in Canadaland with its lower drinking age and Anglo/France derived drinking culture, but bear with me. Americans can't drink until age 21, which means they have a long period of having to drink somewhat covertly, even at college. This breeds the idea that alcohol is this edgy, dangerous thing, not to be embraced as a normal, fun social activity, but instead to be hedonistically indulged in only while young and stupid. The long tradition of puritanism, abstention, moralism, all that hardcore protestant stuff they seem to love, exacerbates this perception. The result is a nation where significant numbers of people simply don't know how to drink. Thus, parents, having grown up in this sort of a culture, don't tend to teach much about drinking beyond "it's bad, don't do it!" and so the cycle continues, with lots of peoples' only experience of drinking being sinking vast quantities of terrible quality piss from kegs at college. Not having the experience or education, people get fucked up, which in turn perpetuates the perception of alcohol as dangerous and antisocial. Or, as American friend put it, "It's not a crime dammit, it's fuckin culture in Italy!" |
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Thoughtless [Danielle] Thoughtless is my secret lover [Danielle] *flutters eyelashes* [Thoughtless] SECRET IS OUT I miss my two pussies :( (Part II) Since: 11-17-05 From: PR Last post: 6297 days Last view: 6296 days |
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| Unless I am mistaken I was legally able to drink at the age of 18 here.
Did I? Hell yeah. Do I now? Hell no. Not really my thing. Beer, wine, rum, tequila, drank it all. Then threw up four times in one night and decided "No more" |
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